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Killer Queen posted:Except the 90 million!!!!! apps boasting is nothing but marketing nonsense effectively, since most iPhone/iPad users never use 99% of the cool apps beyond their latest Facebook games, Netflix, and Tinder. You've just proven my point. It really doesn't matter how supported the app ecosystem is for a given device when that isn't why consumers buy them. If a smart watch reads off your email subject headers and shows notifications for sports and stocks in an intuitive, easy to grasp way, then that's most of what the mass market (your uncle, sister, and dad) wants and needs. It's super cool to have a greater library of apps for tech enthusiasts, but that's not what moves units. You are super out of touch with the average joe because those people don't check stocks or email (most people don't even keep email on their bottom taskbar) with any regularity. Highlighting social media, games, Netflix, etc just goes to show that people do use Apple devices for more than their base functionality (a phone for calling and texting). You'd better believe people will be using these to scroll through Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook feeds while playing games and stuff too. I'm not saying it's a great device for it, I'm just saying the app store makes it a superior product to the Android counterparts because there are more apps and they are all designed better than the Android counterparts (this is everyone's biggest complaint of the Android phone and tablet apps too). Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Logikv9 posted:If you're buying a >$349 dollar smartwatch you better be using it for something other than time. Being seen with a better-than-sport apple watch is an app all of its own.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:03
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gret posted:So will the Apple Watch, especially if you're happy with just using it to tell time. Remember, quartz watches also need periodic battery replacements.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:03
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Let's be honest, the Gold edition is Apple's first party version of this
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Mar 9, 2015 21:05
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Frankly I'd be afraid to wear an Apple Watch around certain parts of the city I live in.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:08
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I was at work, how much are the three watches?
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Mar 9, 2015 21:11
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Mister Macys posted:I was at work, how much are the three watches? $350-$17,000
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Mar 9, 2015 21:12
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The biggest problem isn't the silly price tag, but the fact that it looks tacky as hell. How on earth could Apple design something this ugly?
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Mar 9, 2015 21:14
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Why are you guys still talking about watches when their laptop stuff is honestly like loving shocking. They apparently believe so much in the new, non-clicky, Force Touch trackpad that they didn't just put it in the new macbook but in the retina Macbook Pros as well. I'm really curious about how it feels if it's not just good for a thin laptop, but apparently better than what already was the best trackpad in any laptop. Really loving skeptical but there are some new features in the trackpad (like vibrating when you snap something into place) that I guess they wanted all their retina laptops to do. It looks like the butterfly switches aren't making it over to the pros however, which makes me less excited about how those feel. teagone posted:What's funny is that dongle costs more than an Apple TV. That's actually really cheap for what amounts to a one plug dock (you used to pay hundreds for something like that), and a different company will probably make a cooler and more cost effective one.
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tropical posted:I was wondering the same thing but I stumbled upon this (1x hdmi, 1x usb 3.1, 1x usb-c): http://store.apple.com/us/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter Ok that doesn't really solve any problems unless you want a/v out
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Super Dude posted:$350-$17,000  What the gently caress, is the glass made of a single loving diamond?
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Hace posted:Ok that doesn't really solve any problems unless you want a/v out a/v out is problem solved? Also some other company is going to come out with a splitter that you can charge with, if that's what you're looking for, and it's not going to be so pricey.
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Mister Macys posted:
It's Apple's sorta-gold with a "bright red modern buckle." http://store.apple.com/us/buy-watch/apple-watch-edition?product=MJ3G2LL/A&step=detail
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Mar 9, 2015 21:26
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I just backed a pebble time steel. I like the look of the steel apple but can't afford to pay that and don't want to buy a sport and get less quality housing and glass. Plus the Pebble Time has way better battery life and isn't a 1st gen device.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:31
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Hace posted:Ok that doesn't really solve any problems unless you want a/v out It solves the problem of, "I want to keep a display and a backup drive on my desk to use with my laptop when I'm home, and keep the laptop charging." And does it with one plug, which is better than the current MacBook Air.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:38
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Mister Macys posted:
The watch body is made of gold. Gold is expensive.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Why are you guys still talking about watches when their laptop stuff is honestly like loving shocking. They apparently believe so much in the new, non-clicky, Force Touch trackpad that they didn't just put it in the new macbook but in the retina Macbook Pros as well. I'm really curious about how it feels if it's not just good for a thin laptop, but apparently better than what already was the best trackpad in any laptop. Really loving skeptical but there are some new features in the trackpad (like vibrating when you snap something into place) that I guess they wanted all their retina laptops to do. It looks like the butterfly switches aren't making it over to the pros however, which makes me less excited about how those feel. Yeah I'm really interested to see what both the keyboard and trackpad are like in person. I was really skeptical when they eliminated the button from the bottom of the trackpad but once I got used to it I pretty much couldn't go back so maybe it's the same sort of thing.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:50
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Has there been any mention of the display? OLED seemed likely except it would be unusable for the sports stuff they are pushing, LCD would only be slightly better but would hurt the aesthetics, transflective would be ideal for sports but look kind of lovely otherwise.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:53
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horse mans posted:The watch body is made of gold. Gold is expensive. Internet suggests under $1200 per oz. An iphone 4 weighs just under 5oz. A solid gold iphone 4 would cost therefore cost $6000. $10k is some moneyyyyyyyyy.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:56
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It will be interesting to compare the Apple Watch and the Apple Watch Sport in person, since basically every external component is different. It might be that the stainless steel one feels much fancier for the price.
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Mar 9, 2015 21:58
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The Devil Tesla posted:Why are you guys still talking about watches when their laptop stuff is honestly like loving shocking. They apparently believe so much in the new, non-clicky, Force Touch trackpad that they didn't just put it in the new macbook but in the retina Macbook Pros as well. I'm really curious about how it feels if it's not just good for a thin laptop, but apparently better than what already was the best trackpad in any laptop. Really loving skeptical but there are some new features in the trackpad (like vibrating when you snap something into place) that I guess they wanted all their retina laptops to do. It looks like the butterfly switches aren't making it over to the pros however, which makes me less excited about how those feel. It's pretty clear the MBP/MBA for this generation is just the broadwell bump. Minimal effort, same design but better CPUs. Swapping out the keyboard for the new stuff is probably more work than they wanted to do. You can probably expect to see the new keyboard across the line within a year or 2 at most.
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88h88 posted:Internet suggests under $1200 per oz. An iphone 4 weighs just under 5oz. A solid gold iphone 4 would cost therefore cost $6000. $10k is some moneyyyyyyyyy. At this point you're comparing your back of the napkin calculation of a solid block of gold by weight and the cost an actual product with thousands of engineering man hours put into it that also needs to offset the cost of heightened security in its stores; writing, debugging, documenting, releasing, and supporting the WatchKit SDK; packaging, documenting, and supporting the device; training its employees to troubleshoot the device; and fitting factories to machine the device, and the metallurgical work done to make the gold less malleable. And the margin so that the company actually makes money after all that.
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Mar 9, 2015 22:05
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I'm not a close follower of Apple advertisement campaigns, but that MUST be a low. Why won't you buy an Apple Watch? Do you hate poor African babies?
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horse mans posted:At this point you're comparing your back of the napkin calculation of a solid block of gold by weight and the cost an actual product with thousands of engineering man hours put into it that also needs to offset the cost of heightened security in its stores; writing, debugging, documenting, releasing, and supporting the WatchKit SDK; packaging, documenting, and supporting the device; training its employees to troubleshoot the device; and fitting factories to machine the device, and the metallurgical work done to make the gold less malleable. And the margin so that the company actually makes money after all that. They made the gold less malleable by making it not gold.
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horse mans posted:At this point you're comparing your back of the napkin calculation of a solid block of gold by weight and the cost an actual product with thousands of engineering man hours put into it that also needs to offset the cost of heightened security in its stores; writing, debugging, documenting, releasing, and supporting the WatchKit SDK; packaging, documenting, and supporting the device; training its employees to troubleshoot the device; and fitting factories to machine the device, and the metallurgical work done to make the gold less malleable. And the margin so that the company actually makes money after all that. I'm not though, I'm comparing the cost of a decent chunk of the material the product is made out of to the actual product price seeing as it has the same internals as the $350 version. It's not quite as much a jump in logic as you're suggesting it is.
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88h88 posted:I'm not though, I'm comparing the cost of a decent chunk of the material the product is made out of to the actual product price seeing as it has the same internals as the $350 version. It's not quite as much a jump in logic as you're suggesting it is.
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Rick posted:Yeah I'm really interested to see what both the keyboard and trackpad are like in person. I was really skeptical when they eliminated the button from the bottom of the trackpad but once I got used to it I pretty much couldn't go back so maybe it's the same sort of thing. MrBond posted:You can probably expect to see the new keyboard across the line within a year or 2 at most. While it's not a complete review at all, the puff-pieces from reporters who got some time with it are generally really impressed with the trackpad, and say that it feels at first click like you're using something that depresses deeper. They also say that the keyboard feels good for a board with such little travel, it's still not as a nice as the older design. We may see butterfly switches in the MBP eventually, but they'll probably also come with a deeper travel.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Why are you guys still talking about watches when their laptop stuff is honestly like loving shocking. They apparently believe so much in the new, non-clicky, Force Touch trackpad that they didn't just put it in the new macbook but in the retina Macbook Pros as well. I'm really curious about how it feels if it's not just good for a thin laptop, but apparently better than what already was the best trackpad in any laptop. Really loving skeptical but there are some new features in the trackpad (like vibrating when you snap something into place) that I guess they wanted all their retina laptops to do. It looks like the butterfly switches aren't making it over to the pros however, which makes me less excited about how those feel.. Only the 13" Retina, the 15" still has the old trackpad. Which is even more confusing.
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88h88 posted:I'm not though, I'm comparing the cost of a decent chunk of the material the product is made out of to the actual product price seeing as it has the same internals as the $350 version. It's not quite as much a jump in logic as you're suggesting it is. The Edition watch has 2 years warranty coverage instead of the standard 1 year so that's probably where the extra $4k is going.
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FCKGW posted:Only the 13" Retina, the 15" still has the old trackpad. Which is even more confusing. The 15" hasn't been refreshed yet because Intel hasn't made quad-core Broadwell cpus yet. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/quad-core-and-desktop-broadwell-chips-still-mia-expected-mid-2015/
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So what does IPX7 mean to me? Should I take it off to wash dishes? Shower? Cant swim with it, right?
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gypsyshred posted:So what does IPX7 mean to me? Should I take it off to wash dishes? Shower? Cant swim with it, right? It means if it gets rained on, it'll live. You probably should take it off for anything involving soap or solvents, though apparently Tim Cook says he takes his in the shower, so who knows. I wouldn't swim with it, but technically it should be okay.
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gypsyshred posted:So what does IPX7 mean to me? Should I take it off to wash dishes? Shower? Cant swim with it, right? From wikipedia: quote:Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion). (for 30 minutes)
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I wonder how water damage warranty claims would work with a device that is supposed to be somewhat water proof.
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Endless Mike posted:It means if it gets rained on, it'll live. You probably should take it off for anything involving soap or solvents, though apparently Tim Cook says he takes his in the shower, so who knows. I wouldn't swim with it, but technically it should be okay. Tim probably gets a new iWatch to wear everyday after he showers with it and damages it.
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Three Olives posted:I wonder how water damage warranty claims would work with a device that is supposed to be somewhat water proof. Does Apple claim that its watch is water proof?
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Pissflaps posted:Does Apple claim that its watch is water proof? IPX7 or water resistant or whatever. Will all water claims be denied, you should have been more careful period or will they honor the warranty on the rating somehow? gret posted:Tim probably gets a new iWatch to wear everyday after he showers with it and damages it. Plus he is worth something like half a billion dollars so the Edition probably seems like a bargain even if he had to pay for it. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Three Olives posted:IPX7 or water resistant or whatever. Will all water claims be denied, you should have been more careful period or will they honor the warranty on the rating somehow?
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