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Man I really want to know what the red hate card is, the article didn't have it. Watch it be a reprint of combust.
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HMS Boromir posted:What? Am I missing something, or are you missing "noncreature" in that text? Haha, yes, sorry I did miss that detail Shame on me.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:30
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That card looks like something I'd sideboard against UW Heroic, or to help deal with ub control.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:33
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It's noncreature only. So it's two massively conditional clauses on top of each other, I don't think it will see much play ever. It hits a t3 Ashiok while the g/x player is on the draw, its going to see play.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:36
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I'm probably going to run them sideboard in place of Destructive Revelry in Temur Midrange. poo poo I have a lot of fixing up to do when Dragons hits, I might even make Frontier Walkers a thing again. Kiora, Sarkhan Unbroken, Sarkhan the Dragonspeaker, Xenagos, Nissa, the works. Let me revel in my mythic rares for a while, Wizards. 
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Mar 9, 2015 23:39
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It also blocks Downfall on a creature OR walker. It's super playable.
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Bugsy posted:It hits a t3 Ashiok while the g/x player is on the draw, its going to see play. It also hits evil garruk, jeskai ascendancy, new Narset, new Sarkahn, and Sad Sorin. It's a fairly broad spell.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:48
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mr. mephistopheles posted:It also blocks Downfall on a creature OR walker. It's super playable. I don't think you can do that, unless it acts like hexproof for those permanents? Does it work like not-hexproof?
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Mar 9, 2015 23:49
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forbidden lesbian posted:Man I really want to know what the red hate card is, the article didn't have it. It's almost certainly exactly that
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Mar 9, 2015 23:52
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All of those suggestions seem like you're bringing in a card that trades one-for-one with like 4-6 of their spells and sits around dead otherwise though. Unless you have a super big problem with any of those spells I don't think it's great (although protecting your walkers outside of blue is pretty unique and that element might make it playable).
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Mar 9, 2015 23:54
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Count Bleck posted:I don't think you can do that, unless it acts like hexproof for those permanents? Does it work like not-hexproof? You might be right. I was thinking it works like protection but if they've already been targeted it probably does nothing. Lame.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:56
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forbidden lesbian posted:Man I really want to know what the red hate card is, the article didn't have it. More like Pyroblast. I would have assumbed Combust but drat if that doesn't sound like a meh card with Roast already at uncommon. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mar 9, 2015 23:58
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Rinkles posted:
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Mar 9, 2015 23:58
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mr. mephistopheles posted:You might be right. I was thinking it works like protection but if they've already been targeted it probably does nothing. Lame. I mean lets look at it this way. Hexproof - (This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.) As on the cards with actual Hexproof. Display of Dominance says exactly that, but with 'blue or black' between of and spells. So, maybe it's fake hexproof?
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Mar 9, 2015 23:58
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Isn't target validity checked both at cast/activation time and upon resolution?
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The green spell can counter blue/black removal, you dummies.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:59
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Yeah pretty sure it would make already cast spells fizzle due to illegal targets.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:00
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Entropic posted:I want to see more of the draft commons, dammit. Show us the common Exploit creatures so I can decide if Mirror Mockery is a bomb rare or not. Slapping it on a Silumgar Butcher seems really really good, but ideal that deck has other good exploit creatures in it too. And I want to see what insane Pauper staple has gotten snuck into the set. But aside from some standouts like Treasure Cruise, they rarely spoil commons before the full set reveal.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:00
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Angry Grimace posted:More like Pyroblast. Pyroblast that also hits white would be cool with me
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Mar 10, 2015 00:03
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Yeah pretty sure it would make already cast spells fizzle due to illegal targets. Yes the spell would fizzle.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:05
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whydirt posted:The green spell can counter blue/black removal, you dummies. Okay that's what I initially thought but then I was second guessing. Card owns again.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:05
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I think all of the hate cards are perfectly playable sideboard cards. Which is a big improvement over the Theros ones, where only Glare of Heresy still sees play now (although Gainsay did win me many a Mono-U Devotion mirror).
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Mar 10, 2015 00:10
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born on a buy you posted:Arizona magic continues to be hilariously hosed up. Offered to help cover hotel costs for a local kid that Q'ed for a PT but can't afford it. His boss, a local store owner, sent me and another guy that made the offer this message this morning: I'd be concerned too if some Buffalo Bill looking creepy rear end EDH player was trying to offer a kid cash for a hotel stay.
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odiv posted:Oh sweet a +1/+1 counter on each other... oh... dragon... nevermind. Allegedly, the mono-color morph dragons are not supposed to be good outside trying to draft Dragon tribal. Zurai posted:Isn't target validity checked both at cast/activation time and upon resolution? Yeah, not sure where the confusion is coming from - the target has to be legal to be placed on the stack, and then legal to resolve. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mar 10, 2015 00:14
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qbert posted:I think all of the hate cards are perfectly playable sideboard cards. Which is a big improvement over the Theros ones, where only Glare of Heresy still sees play now (although Gainsay did win me many a Mono-U Devotion mirror). I believe Hunt the Hunter sometimes shows up in Infect sideboards.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Okay that's what I initially thought but then I was second guessing. Card owns again. Running 4 in the sideboard. Forever.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:25
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whydirt posted:The green spell can counter blue/black removal, you dummies. It's basically Autumn's Veil. It counters Downfall. I hope the red hate spell is Burnout but for blue and white and not a slowtrip.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:25
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suicidesteve posted:I hope the red hate spell is Burnout but for blue and white and not a slowtrip. Just reprint Pyroblast. What could go wrong?
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Mar 10, 2015 00:28
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qbert posted:Just reprint Pyroblast. What could go wrong? Wizards doesn't want us to have fun in modern or standard so it'll just be Combust.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:34
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Myriad Truths posted:I believe Hunt the Hunter sometimes shows up in Infect sideboards. I'm really surprised more Abzan decks aren't running Dark Betrayal in the side for the mirror. The trade off for only being able to hit Rakshasa Deathdealer, Anafenza, Tasigur, and Rhino is worth it for a 1-mana removal spell, in my opinion.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:35
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qbert posted:Just reprint Pyroblast. What could go wrong? You would kill Maro.
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Angry Grimace posted:You would kill Maro. Well I mean Green's thing is big fat efficient creatures right? Obviously blue is the only one allowed to have counter magic, certainly no other color has had efficient fatties. Certainly. 
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suicidesteve posted:Wizards doesn't want us to have fun in modern or standard so it'll just be Combust. Hell yeah you could kill all the good blue permanents in modern and standard such as
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rabidsquid posted:Hell yeah you could kill all the good blue permanents in modern and standard such as Deceiver Exarch, Pestermite, Jeskai Ascendency.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:41
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Mardu warriors could be legit fun now.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:41
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rabidsquid posted:Hell yeah you could kill all the good blue permanents in modern and standard such as I for one do not want R to have a one-mana counter to everything in Merfolk
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Bugsy posted:Deceiver Exarch, Pestermite, Jeskai Ascendency. With a list that long wizards would be idiots to not do it at this point Four Score posted:I for one do not want R to have a one-mana counter to everything in Merfolk I think the red counter to Merfolk is killing you faster, and they already printed that in modern legal formats
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Four Score posted:I for one do not want R to have a one-mana counter to everything in Merfolk I do!!
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Errant Gin Monks posted:I do!! Why would you wish this on a T2 deck? You monster.
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rabidsquid posted:With a list that long wizards would be idiots to not do it at this point In standard: Ashiok, Kiora, soon to be Narset and Sarkhan, Sidisi, Mantis Rider, Pearl Lake Ancient, Temur Ascendancy just for starters And of course there's the whole counterspell mode, assuming we're still talking about Pyroblast like I think we are. That's why you'd play it over burn for dealing with planeswalkers or creatures, because it can randomly counter Dig through Time too.
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