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Infected
Oct 17, 2012

Salt Incarnate


Atal Vataman posted:

had a 180k credit game in my cdc (before taxes), would have made silly amounts with battle payments. Its an excellent moneymaker, however i'm quite liberal with my gold ammo in it, so i dont make as much as i could. its probably one of those tanks you can run fine without gold tbh. on the other hand, gently caress bouncing on tanks

You can stop playing it now trob, there are no 4 gun marks.

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demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

Viperidae posted:

So botes is going into CBT on the 12th. Is it time to start a thread for it?

Botes chat: the honeymoon is over.. the new meta is can I survive beyond the first minute because there are one or two carriers and nothing but DD's spamming torpedoes.

Here is a recap of the last two days. Oh look, there are two waves of torpedo bombers headed right for me. Oh hey while I am managing to run for my life I see another ten torpedoes that were launched by those DD's hiding behind all that smoke screen. *sinks* That was fun. Lather, rinse, repeat. RIP botes, it was a short but predictable run.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Infected posted:

You can stop playing it now trob, there are no 4 gun marks.

The person with average damage better than everyone else in the tank should get a little crown on top of the turret.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

demonR6 posted:

Botes chat: the honeymoon is over.. the new meta is can I survive beyond the first minute because there are one or two carriers and nothing but DD's spamming torpedoes.

Here is a recap of the last two days. Oh look, there are two waves of torpedo bombers headed right for me. Oh hey while I am managing to run for my life I see another ten torpedoes that were launched by those DD's hiding behind all that smoke screen. *sinks* That was fun. Lather, rinse, repeat. RIP botes, it was a short but predictable run.

Did they really kill botes with arty carriers?

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Agrajag posted:

Did they really kill botes with arty carriers?

Based on my experience with the latest patch, if they ruin boats it'll be by making GBS threads on everything that's not a battleship.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon

Infected posted:

You can stop playing it now trob, there are no 4 gun marks.

Jeez, I already told you that I cured my autism >:o

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

Agrajag posted:

Did they really kill botes with arty carriers?

Every single match over the last two days playing tiers 3-5 mostly there is one carrier and the rest are mostly DD's and a random BB. The carrier launches torpedo bombers after the BB as you would expect. While you dodge the five or six torpedoes and them repeat if you survive for the second wave you are likely going to be greeted by anywhere from 2 to 8 more being fired from the destroyers that zipped in to finish you.

When I didn't die dodging the torp assault from the CV I was too damaged, on fire or flooding and maybe even dead in the water and had zero inclination to give a poo poo long enough for the next volley from the destroyers. It's loving sad.

If you are really unlucky they will have two tier 5 carriers waiting to butt gently caress you like my last match last night. My BB has a 29 sec reload, by the time I was ready to fire there were two squadrons of bombers less than 4km out and I barely had time to maneuver much less fire off a salvo at any target. I did manage to shoot one bomber down so I only had to eat 11 torpedoes not 12. I had enough time to repair before the destroyers finished me off.

demonR6 fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Mar 10, 2015

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

Aren't there supposed to be sweet support ships that poo poo on air in that game or did they decide to say gently caress it to that idea?

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp

BadLlama posted:

Aren't there supposed to be sweet support ships that poo poo on air in that game or did they decide to say gently caress it to that idea?

crusisers are the sweet support ships but lack of player base forces smaller matches of say 5v5 where you get 1 bb 1 CA 1 CV and 2 dds or even drop the CA since bb's and CV's are more popular.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
Guys we can't make a boat thread because of the nada, so we can't talk about boats tho. Also wtf is a bb or dd or hh or whatever. There's nothing in wowp called any of those things you loving autists

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Atal Vataman posted:

Guys we can't make a boat thread because of the nada, so we can't talk about boats tho. Also wtf is a bb or dd or hh or whatever. There's nothing in wowp called any of those things you loving autists

Last I checked this thread wasn't nice and high up in the results if somebody decides to search botes' name the same way a thread titled that would be.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Atal Vataman posted:

Also wtf is a bb or dd or hh or whatever

A quick rundown:

HEAVY TANKS
BB: Battleship. Big guns, lots of armor. Or if it's an older ship, a mix of big and medium guns. Also, the Germans made some with kinda small guns.
BC: Battlecruiser. Big guns, not a lot of armor. Maybe. The Germans had smallish guns and lots of armor.
CB: Large cruiser, stupid US designation. Big guns, not a lot of armor but it's not a loving battlecruiser, ok, stop calling it that.

MEDIUM TANKS
AC: Armored cruiser. Medium gunned ship with an armored belt. Woefully obsolete by like tier 3 or some poo poo like that, excpet for the Germans who made them in the 20's and 30's.
CA: (Usually "heavy") Cruiser. Medium gunned ship.
CL: Light cruiser. Medium gunned ship, but not in a CA way. Like, it can actually be more powerful than a heavy cruiser in terms of broadside weight but it's still "light" because of treaties. Or it can have little guns. Depends upon the decade.

SKY CANCER
CV: Fleet Carrier. Mobile airfield. Range in size from itty bitty to holy loving poo poo. May or may not be armed with medium guns.
CVL: Light carrier. A smaller mobile airfield. May or may not be seaworthy (yeah, Japan, I'm looking at you). Some early CV's could easily have been reclassed as CVL's if they were kept in service.
CVE: Escort carrier. A small, slower airfield not intended for frontline duty. Except for the ones that were.

LIGHT TANKS
DD: Destroyer. Small guns, torpedoes and zoom zoom. Except for the ones Germany made, they had big guns.
DE: Destroyer escort. Same as before, except smaller and not as much zoom. Good for killing submarines. We don't care because there are no submarines (ahem, submersibles, technically. Submersibles stay on the surface quite a bit. Submarines are intended to remain underwater for most of the time, like the late war German and Japanese designs) in WoWS.
PC: Patrol craft. This means a lot of poo poo depending upon who made it. A boat with guns? Yep, patrol craft.
MTB: Motor torpedo boats. These are fun and so are not in the game.

TANK DESTROYERS
are submar- submersibles. gently caress wargaming.

hope this helps

there are of course more than this and other ships which don't fit into any one category alone

and designations have changed since then, so modern destroyers are kinda like cruisers and destroyers had a baby bote :downs:

Missing Name fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Mar 10, 2015

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

e: You can add CVB for ~Battle Carrier~ / Aircraft carrier, large (Midway class) to that list. Maybe CVA (Attack Carrier) too.

Unrelated, by hoo boy:

quote:

You will get an opportunity to access the Closed Beta play testing by applying through an open form, which is going to be published on the very day of the Closed Beta launch. After reaching a certain number of applications, we will disable the form to stop the flood of requests.

So keep an eye on the portal. If you snooze, you lose!

I look forward to entirely missing the window because it opens when I'm at work and closes before I get home on the first day :suicide:


Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Mar 10, 2015

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

Pimpmust posted:

I look forward to entirely missing the window because it opens when I'm at work and closes before I get home on the first day :suicide:

Whats the time frame we are talking about for it to open?

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

They haven't said yet besides "during the day".

Beta Weekenders are automatically in though.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

CB makes plenty of sense. The Alaskas were big nasty cruisers but they definitely weren't armored to battleship standards, so calling them battlecruisers gives the wrong impression. Basically they're heavy cruisers from a world where the treaties never happened and the size race happened after wwi as well as before. Not a match for a bb or bc, but they'd slam dunk cruisers and dds.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Missing Name posted:

A quick rundown:

You'll also see pubbies asking you to protect your CVNs (nuclear-powered carriers). A good opportunity for a, mm, friendly correction.

Lord of Garbagemen
Jan 28, 2014

Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

demonR6 posted:

Every single match over the last two days playing tiers 3-5 mostly there is one carrier and the rest are mostly DD's and a random BB. The carrier launches torpedo bombers after the BB as you would expect. While you dodge the five or six torpedoes and them repeat if you survive for the second wave you are likely going to be greeted by anywhere from 2 to 8 more being fired from the destroyers that zipped in to finish you.

When I didn't die dodging the torp assault from the CV I was too damaged, on fire or flooding and maybe even dead in the water and had zero inclination to give a poo poo long enough for the next volley from the destroyers. It's loving sad.

If you are really unlucky they will have two tier 5 carriers waiting to butt gently caress you like my last match last night. My BB has a 29 sec reload, by the time I was ready to fire there were two squadrons of bombers less than 4km out and I barely had time to maneuver much less fire off a salvo at any target. I did manage to shoot one bomber down so I only had to eat 11 torpedoes not 12. I had enough time to repair before the destroyers finished me off.

Them ruining an already terrible idea is karma for you people playing another russian WG made video game.

the end game is to quit

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon

Missing Name posted:

A quick rundown:

HEAVY TANKS
BB: Battleship. Big guns, lots of armor. Or if it's an older ship, a mix of big and medium guns. Also, the Germans made some with kinda small guns.
BC: Battlecruiser. Big guns, not a lot of armor. Maybe. The Germans had smallish guns and lots of armor.
CB: Large cruiser, stupid US designation. Big guns, not a lot of armor but it's not a loving battlecruiser, ok, stop calling it that.

MEDIUM TANKS
AC: Armored cruiser. Medium gunned ship with an armored belt. Woefully obsolete by like tier 3 or some poo poo like that, excpet for the Germans who made them in the 20's and 30's.
CA: (Usually "heavy") Cruiser. Medium gunned ship.
CL: Light cruiser. Medium gunned ship, but not in a CA way. Like, it can actually be more powerful than a heavy cruiser in terms of broadside weight but it's still "light" because of treaties. Or it can have little guns. Depends upon the decade.

SKY CANCER
CV: Fleet Carrier. Mobile airfield. Range in size from itty bitty to holy loving poo poo. May or may not be armed with medium guns.
CVL: Light carrier. A smaller mobile airfield. May or may not be seaworthy (yeah, Japan, I'm looking at you). Some early CV's could easily have been reclassed as CVL's if they were kept in service.
CVE: Escort carrier. A small, slower airfield not intended for frontline duty. Except for the ones that were.

LIGHT TANKS
DD: Destroyer. Small guns, torpedoes and zoom zoom. Except for the ones Germany made, they had big guns.
DE: Destroyer escort. Same as before, except smaller and not as much zoom. Good for killing submarines. We don't care because there are no submarines (ahem, submersibles, technically. Submersibles stay on the surface quite a bit. Submarines are intended to remain underwater for most of the time, like the late war German and Japanese designs) in WoWS.
PC: Patrol craft. This means a lot of poo poo depending upon who made it. A boat with guns? Yep, patrol craft.
MTB: Motor torpedo boats. These are fun and so are not in the game.

TANK DESTROYERS
are submar- submersibles. gently caress wargaming.

hope this helps

there are of course more than this and other ships which don't fit into any one category alone

and designations have changed since then, so modern destroyers are kinda like cruisers and destroyers had a baby bote :downs:
Are you trying to kill me? Stop pls

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

xthetenth posted:

CB makes plenty of sense. The Alaskas were big nasty cruisers but they definitely weren't armored to battleship standards, so calling them battlecruisers gives the wrong impression. Basically they're heavy cruisers from a world where the treaties never happened and the size race happened after wwi as well as before. Not a match for a bb or bc, but they'd slam dunk cruisers and dds.

Battlecruisers weren't armored to battleship standard either though (with a few late german outliers), they were *armed* to BB standard though. The difference between a CB, BC and Fast BB can be pretty small depending on which era you pick from though.

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Next time on Missing Name's Boatsperg Hour, I'll discuss the differences in battlecruiser doctrine between the Germans and British in the years leading up to WWI, during, and afterwards, up until WWII.

Mainly them because no one else really built battlecruisers in the numbers they did.

Missing Name fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Mar 10, 2015

srb
Jul 24, 2007

BadLlama posted:

Aren't there supposed to be sweet support ships that poo poo on air in that game or did they decide to say gently caress it to that idea?

Anything before 1942 is going to have poo poo for AA, this includes most ships below tier 8ish.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
I would play WoWS if you could play as a guy with a bazooka on a jet ski or similar.

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

I am just assuming ramming damage is going to be a thing and so I will play like it is 80 BC and I am in a Trireme.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Pimpmust posted:

Battlecruisers weren't armored to battleship standard either though (with a few late german outliers), they were *armed* to BB standard though. The difference between a CB, BC and Fast BB can be pretty small depending on which era you pick from though.

Alaskas weren't even a similar scheme but thinner. They were a different scheme altogether.

srb
Jul 24, 2007
It had no underwater protection, but the rest of the armor was strong, designed to withstand up to 11" shells. It had way more armour than most WW1 battlecruisers. Of course, the whole "we'll use it to hunt down those Japanese cruisers!" plan kind of fizzled out as planes and submarines got to work.

With ships like Iowa and Vanguard the role of battlecruisers was pretty much over anyways when you had 45k displacement ships doing 30 knots and carrying battleship armor and guns.

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram

Pimpmust posted:

e: You can add CVB for ~Battle Carrier~ / Aircraft carrier, large (Midway class) to that list. Maybe CVA (Attack Carrier) too.

Unrelated, by hoo boy:


I look forward to entirely missing the window because it opens when I'm at work and closes before I get home on the first day :suicide:

Smart phone? That's how I would have to do it, except I tested last Beta weekend.

Pimpmust posted:

They haven't said yet besides "during the day".

Beta Weekenders are automatically in though.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Hellsau posted:

Do not go up the French TD tree. The tier four and six are garbage, the tier five got thrashed by the TD view range nerf, and the tier seven, eight, and ten are very cumbersome. Poor armor and bad gun handling with crap HP isnt a good place to be.
Yeah, this is pretty much absurd. I've played a lot of bad tanks before and you mostly just have to find its niche to make them work, but the French TDs... man, they're just bad. The SAu has barely any armor, it's slow as poo poo and it turns like my pet rock. Maybe the final gun will be decent enough but the stock gun is laughable and even the first gun has been bouncing shots off light tanks for me. I don't get this tank.

srb
Jul 24, 2007
It's a Bad French Hetzer. Also, the stock gun is the same as on the ARL V39. Since neither the S35 or the V39 are gated behind guns you will sometimes see pubbie V39s with the stock gun or the second gun instead of the 90 or 105 from the S35.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
You can totally make a botes thread:

quote:

With CBT just around the corner, we are happy to drop the non-dislosure-agreement that prevented you all from sharing your adventures from the game with the rest of the community. From 12 March onwards, you will finally be able to post your videos, screenshots and impressions without any constraints!
http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/7097-closed-beta-land-ho/#topmost

I kind of want wows to suck so I can just sell my account and move on, but I enjoyed it during the test weekends.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Darkrenown posted:

You can totally make a botes thread:

From 12 March onwards,

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Just don't post any NDA stuff until then?

Viperidae
Feb 7, 2007
Arf!
Everything from Alpha will still be under NDA too. So don't post any old stuff on the 12th either.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
yeah dont post about boats because its not allowed

*posts about boats*

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

Whos going to post about boats were going to be posting about botes.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Boat talk is boring as hell. gently caress you all and die.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

But I haven't even posted about how confusing it is that DD fleet girls have smaller breasts than BB fleet girls yet.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Prav posted:

But I haven't even posted about how confusing it is that DD fleet girls have smaller breasts than BB fleet girls yet.

DD fleet... girls... what? Do people have waifu body pillows for their ships? :ughh:

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Kesper North posted:

DD fleet... girls... what? Do people have waifu body pillows for their ships? :ughh:

Let me tell you about the magical world of Kancolle.

Although really I should be talking about Arpeggio, the official anime parter of World of Warships. But Kancolle is more fun.

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Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Kesper North posted:

DD fleet... girls... what? Do people have waifu body pillows for their ships? :ughh:

Yes. Also tanks. Also, I can only assume, abstract concepts.

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