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Indonesia 'could release human tsunami of 10,000 asylum seekers on Australia'

Minister warns Canberra to stop agitating for clemency for Bali Nine pair with reminder that Jakarta’s cooperation is vital to ‘stopping the boats’

Indonesia could release a “human tsunami” of 10,000 asylum seekers on Australia if Canberra continues to agitate for clemency for the death row pair Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, an Indonesian minister has warned.

Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno, the coordinating minister for political legal and security affairs, reminded the Abbott government that Indonesian cooperation was vital to the success of its “stop the boats” policy.

“If Canberra keeps doing things that displease Indonesia, Jakarta will surely let the illegal immigrants go to Australia,” Tedjo said in a speech on sovereignty delivered at a Javanese university.

Cartoon posted:

C/ Making poo poo up! BINGO!

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Business Confidence has continued to fall despite the RBA rate cut.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-10/business-confidence-deteriorates-with-rate-cut/6293488

Leading to the RBA saying the lever is now broken and there needs to be actual policy from government

It's graph heavy and an opinion piece but have a read.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-11/jericho-the-interest-rate-mantra-has-hit-a-wall/6300346

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It's only now hit the headlines but I effort posted about this what? a month or so ago. Where this inhuman policy of removal has been done so far it has resulted in immediate and worse outcomes for the indigenous communities involved.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-11/abbott-defends-indigenous-communities-lifestyle-choice/6300218


You can not make this poo poo up.

Smegmatron posted:

http://gu.com/p/46g4y


Welp. Tony just got let off the hook for Chan and Sukamaran.

No Australian swing voter will think twice about killing non-white people if it's part of stopping the boats.

Smegmatron posted:

http://gu.com/p/46g4y


Welp. Tony just got let off the hook for Chan and Sukamaran.

No Australian swing voter will think twice about killing non-white people if it's part of stopping the boats.

Drugs posted:

I believe that Abbott genuinely does care about indigenous issues, but only in a Cecil Rhodes style "we must tame the savages and turn them into good white folk" imperially racist way

Smegmatron posted:

http://gu.com/p/46g4y


Welp. Tony just got let off the hook for Chan and Sukamaran.

No Australian swing voter will think twice about killing non-white people if it's part of stopping the boats.

Smegmatron posted:

http://gu.com/p/46g4y


Welp. Tony just got let off the hook for Chan and Sukamaran.

No Australian swing voter will think twice about killing non-white people if it's part of stopping the boats.

Mad Katter posted:

Abbott's going to deploy mines in the ocean, right?

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More Melbourne shoppers have reported finding what appears to be maggots and foreign objects in food bought from Aldi.

Last week, a Richmond couple found a maggot in a jar of Remano tomato paste, which they bought from an Aldi store in Abbotsford.

Since then other Aldi customers have contacted Fairfax Media claiming to have found foreign objects and creatures in food bought from the cut-price supermarket chain.

One customer, who asked to be known only as Michelle, opened a Mozart Chocolate late last year to find what appeared to be live maggots inside.

"I opened the wrapper and there was a maggot crawling out of the chocolate," Michelle said.

The chocolates were sold by Aldi around Christmas, for a third of the cost at which they usually retail at department stores.

"They were my favourite chocolates, but I can't even look at them now," Michelle said.

Another customer, who asked not to be named, said he opened a tin of Ocean Rise smoked mussels bought from Aldi to find what appeared to be the leg of a starfish inside.

"Some species of starfish are poisonous, so I sealed it in a plastic container in my fridge without eating any," he said.

The customer said he lodged a formal complaint with Aldi, but was disappointed by their response.

"All they offered was a 'sorry' and promised they would instruct the operators on the difference," he said.

Tania Ewing said her daughter found a fingernail in a tub of salted caramel ice cream bought from an Aldi store in Brunswick last October.

"It took us three months to get any response from Aldi," Ms Ewing said.

Another woman, who asked to be known only as Jan, said she found a piece of metal in the bottom of a jar of Bramwells peanut butter that she bought from an Aldi store in Melbourne's south-east.

"It looked like the tip of a knife, but all my knives are intact. I suspect it was something in the manufacturing equipment that broke off," she said.

Jan took her complaint to Consumer Affairs Victoria, which referred her to Casey City Council. But she was told by council investigators that the matter could be better dealt with by NSW health authorities.

"I have heard nothing more," she said.

An Aldi spokesman said the supermarket had investigated the issues raised by its Melbourne customers, but found the problems were not widespread.

"For the incidents mentioned, there has not been an illustration of any trends and customers that have been in contact with Aldi have been responded to," the spokesman said.

"Any complaints are raised individually and investigated with extremely high importance. Aldi will always remove any product from sale if it is identified as a risk to our customers."

The spokesman said the supermarket was investigating last week's discovery of the wormlike animal in the jar of Remano tomato paste. He said the jar had been collected from customers Adrian Chew and his partner Stephanie on Saturday, and was in transit to the supplier for testing.

"Aldi has been investigating the issue thoroughly with the supplier and we will implement any further action if required," the spokesman said.

The label on the jar of tomato paste reads: "Especially made for our Aldi stores to our stringent quality specifications." It is listed as a product of China.

"We undertake regular testing with independent laboratories to ensure the ongoing safety, quality and regulatory compliance of our products. If for any reason customers are not satisfied with Aldi's everyday grocery range, we will replace the product or provide a refund," the Aldi spokesman said.

Ken Walker, the senior curator of entomology at Museum Victoria, said he believed the wriggling wormlike creatures found in the Aldi chocolate were in fact caterpillars, or the larva of pantry moths.

"From the image alone, it looks like the larva of an Indian meal moth, commonly known as a pantry moth," Dr Walker said.

Indian meal moth larva can infest a wide range of dry foodstuffs, including cereal, bread, pasta, rice, dried fruits and chocolate. The moths can crawl into surprisingly tight spots and are known to chew through thin plastic and paper packaging.

Garry McDonald, an entomologist from Melbourne University, said it was "highly unusual" for a maggot to be found living in processed food, like a jar of tomato paste.

"It's a pretty acidic, hostile environment," Dr McDonald said.

"It is unlikely to have been a maggot originating from within that bottle, unless it had been previously opened.

"The average life of a maggot - from egg hatch to developing into a pupa - might take two or three weeks. It could be a bit less, or a bit more. It's not all that long.

"If the maggot was alive, the egg would have had to have been laid in the last two or three weeks."

Dr McDonald said flies typically laid their eggs on food, rather than on a container.

Les Affaires posted:

My class on entrepreneurship taught that people are motivated into entrepreneurship by either necessity or by creativity. It's why a lot of small business startups are done by immigrants, because it's often easier for an immigrant to start a business than it is for them to get a job.

Anybody who knows about creativity though will understand that you either need to be the type of person willing to take massive risks, OR have enough capital behind you to ensure that the risk is not going to change your living standards much.

Shadeoses posted:

Will they be taxed, though?

Lid posted:

Birdstrike posted:

Why do we not just pool our capital into a grid-based anarcho-syndicalist collective?

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I want to know how 10,000 asylum seekers coming to a country of 23million+ could ever be considered a "tsunami".

Graic Gabtar posted:

The boats were stopped and then the passengers and crew were sent back.

That would count as a boat being stopped.

Splode posted:

Gross

Can you link the article? I want to share that on facebook and laugh at the reactions

Konomex posted:

As I had understood it when the government told us they would stop the boats they said they would stop the boats from leaving to come here, not that they would just stop the boats arriving. The difference is subtle but important.

Stopping the boats from leaving follows the line of thinking that we need to stop the deaths at sea - the actual reasoning used.

Stopping the boats from arriving follows the line that you're racist - the reasoning you've followed for some reason.

They have been telling us that by turning back the boats the flood of refugees coming to Australia by boat has stopped, it's disingenuous - and a form of lying, to say that they've stopped coming. They haven't, we simply continue to turn them around.

Lid posted:

Weel seeya Aldi

Graic Gabtar posted:

Ah yes, I forgot I was a racist. Thanks for the reminder.

I've got my hand poised above the "make forum go full retard" button now BTW.

Unless the Australian Navy decide to patrol the Indonesian shoreline (a very bad thing because it's literally piracy apparently) you are always going to get someone put to sea. Human nature.

However, the few that do are being intercepted very early and put on a safe ship and safely returned. There are also lot less of those boats trying it based on the number of rescue boats used compared to boat arrivals in recent times. That in itself indicates boats have stopped. Overall, the less time people spend on dangerous craft the better. The more boats that are stopped will continue to discourage others from believing the poo poo peddled by people smugglers and it will be safer again.

So they are stopping boats as you understand it.

Graic Gabtar posted:

Ah yes, I forgot I was a racist. Thanks for the reminder.

I've got my hand poised above the "make forum go full retard" button now BTW.

Unless the Australian Navy decide to patrol the Indonesian shoreline. A very bad thing because it's literally piracy apparently you are always going to get someone put to sea. Human nature.

However, the few that do are being intercepted very early and put on a safe ship and safely returned. There are also lot less of those boats trying it based on the number of rescue boats used compared to boat arrivals in recent times. That in itself indicates boats have stopped. Overall, the less time people spend on dangerous craft the better. The more boats that are stopped will continue to discourage others from believing the poo poo peddled by people smugglers and it will be safer again.

So they are stopping boats as you understand it.

You Am I posted:

So it seems to be the case that either the store or the person's house is where larva is coming from, rather than the manufacturer

Halo14 posted:

Where is this info coming from? As far as I'm concerned all they've stopped is the reporting or information supply regarding boat arrivals. I honestly want to know.

hooman posted:

EDIT: Also your puppetmaster schtick is pretty stale. Congrats, you get rises from people by being a torture denier/apologist, that's not really much of an achievement.

EightDeer posted:

Honestly, it is pretty impressive that he still gets people trying to genuinely debate him, even though he's stated outright he's just here to stir up poo poo.

You Am I posted:

So it seems to be the case that either the store or the person's house is where larva is coming from, rather than the manufacturer

Graic Gabtar posted:

Dude, the boats have stopped.*Citation Needed

Smegmatron posted:

http://gu.com/p/46g4y


Welp. Tony just got let off the hook for Chan and Sukamaran.

No Australian swing voter will think twice about killing non-white people if it's part of stopping the boats.

Wisdom Suppository posted:

Wow. That Indonesian politician seems to know the average Australian voter better than our own government. Right for the proverbial jugular.

Graic Gabtar posted:

However, the few that do are being intercepted very early and put on a safe ship and safely returned.

quote:

Blog posts reveal teen obsessed with Islam
The young Australian Jake Bilardi alongside two Islamic State members. Boy was regularly reading news from Arab world and commenting on evil of US, Israel, Australia.

Splode posted:

Yeah, the theory was that Necessity entrepreneurs don't exist if there is a good social security system, which is slightly less absurd. The lecturer conflating less necessity entrepreneurs with less entrepreneurs total was of course his own idiocy.

Senor Tron posted:

Yeah, quite possibly the persons house.

gently caress those larvae. I've had to deal with infestations of pantry moths twice and they get into EVERYTHING. I've even had packets of pasta that feel airtight that they someone managed to squeeze into.

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Land Tax hurts first homebuyers by making new housing more expensive to build.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

If a boat is stopped but no one is around to see it, is the boat stopped?