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Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Austrian mook posted:

I played through all of AC2 and what a loving massive mistake. I love renaissance Italy as a setting but now were not going to get a game that does it justice. gently caress Assassins Creed. Literally the worst video game franchise to have mainstream success... possibly ever frankly.

Maybe try not posting

Edit
Not to defend just there's enough threads to bitch about things.

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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Sad lions posted:

Painted world!
Hell of a big area to be so hidden away.

They even hid the DLC behind a puzzle :allears:

FadedReality
Sep 5, 2007

Okurrrr?

littleorv posted:

Final Fantasy sucks rear end

Hey, final fantasy XIII apparently gets really good after you've wasted 40 hours on it. I stopped playing jrpgs altogether because once I stopped being an awkward teenager I got pretty bored of playing as one in literally every jrpg ever.

I've been playing Diablo 3 again since Season 2 started and I like how many obtuse little things the game trims from the ARPG formula. The skill runes, teleporting around the world, getting to party member locations quickly. I'm impressed with how far the game has come from the mess it was at launch.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




littleorv posted:

Final Fantasy sucks rear end

Well duh, it's like twenty seven years old.

The Tactics games are pretty great to decent. I'd rather play Tactics Advance over Assassin's Creed one.

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

See I like JRPG's (you can tell by my avatar) but the Final Fantasy games have never clicked for me. It's just so boring and I have never found the settings of the games to be interesting either. However I really liked Crisis Core and wish I could get it on my Vita.

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine
I'm a big fan of all of the SNES Final Fantasies and im a huge fan of X also, for some reason.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

One of my favorite little things about Final Fantasy X is that I accidentally took one of the best naps of my life during one of the boss battles

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Internet Wizard posted:

One of my favorite little things about Final Fantasy X is that I accidentally took one of the best naps of my life during one of the boss battles

What one? X actually has the best gameplay in the entire series by a mile.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Austrian mook posted:

What one? X actually has the best gameplay in the entire series by a mile.

I dunno, the dude with the dumb blue hair.

I gave up after that. Tried XII later and never fell asleep playing that one so that seems to have been the better game!

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



If you would play anything AC over anything FF then you've never seen the dark depths of FF sidegames.

On-topic: A neat little thing in inFamous: Second Son is that for most of the game, when you use your smoke power super-attack, the main character zooms super high into the air with a poo poo-eating grin on his face, then slams back down into the ground.

When you're in a boss fight with the main bad guy, right after they do a very Bad Thing, instead of the grin he's got a super pissed off face. It's a really neat touch that you don't expect.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

Starhawk64 posted:

So I've been playing Wizardry 8 and one thing I really love about it is the voicesets you can assign to your characters. Other rpgs have done this but Wizardry 8 really makes your dudes feel more like people rather than player controlled robots. There's 32 different voicesets, 16 male and 16 female, and they are all fun to use and full of personality. Not only that, your party members say some pretty funny poo poo at times. It's like the voice options from the Saint's Row games on steroids.

I always assign Crazy Russian lady to my faerie wizard.
"Got trap on it."

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Internet Wizard posted:

I dunno, the dude with the dumb blue hair.

I gave up after that. Tried XII later and never fell asleep playing that one so that seems to have been the better game!

That's Seymour. FFX is one of the best RPG's ever made.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Aleph Null posted:

I always assign Crazy Russian lady to my faerie wizard.
"Got trap on it."

Crazy Russian lady is great. "I spot new victim!"

I always assigned the bored monotone voice to my ranger. It's hilarious when he spots a hidden item, he says "Stray Item" and "Pick it up" in the most bored deadpan voice ever, and when he gets a critical kill he says "Whoopee for me," again in that bored deadpan.

Arx Monolith
May 4, 2007
Final Fantasy is dumb and overly complicated and stupid.
Assassians Creed is boring and dumb and stupid.

Shuddap or make a thread about it.

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

bewilderment posted:

If you would play anything AC over anything FF then you've never seen the dark depths of FF sidegames.

On-topic: A neat little thing in inFamous: Second Son is that for most of the game, when you use your smoke power super-attack, the main character zooms super high into the air with a poo poo-eating grin on his face, then slams back down into the ground.

When you're in a boss fight with the main bad guy, right after they do a very Bad Thing, instead of the grin he's got a super pissed off face. It's a really neat touch that you don't expect.

I think the facial animation in that game is just fantastic in general, really surprised me.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

*scientist man with glasses and lab coat walks up to podium* we've decided upon a new diagnoses tool for autisms. *opens slideshow containing austrian mook's posts* billy do you find these points reasonable and thought out

YAH

*begins writing furiously*

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Alouicious posted:

*scientist man with glasses and lab coat walks up to podium* we've decided upon a new diagnoses tool for autisms. *opens slideshow containing austrian mook's posts* billy do you find these points reasonable and thought out

YAH

*begins writing furiously*

women can be scientists too i dunno why it has to be a man

ANYWAY in Attila: Total War, I will never get tired of the animation that plays when you raze a town to the ground: a plume of fire straight up obliterates the city, and then keeps going in a giant flame wave until the entire province is burnt to cinders :flame:

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

toasterwarrior posted:

women can be scientists too i dunno why it has to be a man

ANYWAY in Attila: Total War, I will never get tired of the animation that plays when you raze a town to the ground: a plume of fire straight up obliterates the city, and then keeps going in a giant flame wave until the entire province is burnt to cinders :flame:

Speaking of something that could be a woman and Attila: The rage that has generated from women being soldiers in that game. Its magical how pissed off nerds get over it.

Striking Yak
Dec 31, 2012

Austrian mook posted:

playing Red Dead makes my PS3 make really loud noises. Doesn't happen with any of my other games.

Install it to the hard drive and it should be quiet. Fable 3 and Alan Wake made it sound like the industrial revolution was happening inside my 360. Must be something about the discs.

Content: Domination lines in Team Fortress 2. If you're not that good (like me) you won't hear them that often, but they're a nice little reward for doing well.
"You got a forehead on ya like a coffee table..."

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Austrian mook posted:

That's Seymour. FFX is one of the best RPG's ever made.

So just to be certain I understand this post correctly, FFX is one of the ever made which belongs to the best RPG?

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




2house2fly posted:

So just to be certain I understand this post correctly, FFX is one of the ever made which belongs to the best RPG?

We found him guys. The least funny person ever.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Austrian mook posted:

That's Seymour. FFX is one of the best RPG's ever made.

AH. HAH. HAH. HAH!

AH. HAH. HAH. HAH. HAH!


FFX has great gameplay, but it has some really bad writing issues.


For something positive, I've been playing Syndicate (the 2012 FPS), and it has an awesome flamethrower. It sprays ignited thermite at people, and all those poor assholes caught in the blast have rather entertaining "OH gently caress I'M BURNING! :supaburn:" reactions. :allears:

It's also kinda nice that there's no moral compass of any kind in the game. If you want to go through capping civilians because they're in your way, than go right for it. There's even a stretch where the game hands you a minigun and walks you through a hallway with about a dozen civilian scientists from another Corporate Syndicate fleeing across from a side door, with about only three or four actual enemy guards in their midst.

Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

I'm replaying Silent Storm and remembering the quality of detail that was in those old games. It's like Jagged Alliance - a turn-based tactual squad game set in WWII. Like many games of its sort and era, there's plenty of needless gun porn (which if twenty nearly identical pistols do you want to use as the backup to one of twenty different rifles that all look the same and are incrementally different from each other?) but the big selling point is the destructability of everything. And it does this well, but that's not what got my attention.

They didn't do things like worry about accuracy and just say you hit or missed - each bullet, shell and grenade fragment is individually calculated and mapped as an object on the map. If you miss, you can see where the missed shot goes and what (or who) it eventually strikes to stop. Everything has penetration levels so you can shoot people through walls, people through other people, etc. But this doesn't just matter when you fire - the game keeps track.

I had a sniper set up and picking off Nazis during one mission, and he ended his turn having wounded his target. On the German turn, one of their guys stepped around a corner close by to the sniper, got in front of him and fired with a pistol. As happens very rarely, the shot hitting caused my sniper to twitch and pull the trigger on his gun out of reaction. The game still knew where that rifle was and how it was being held, and performed accordingly. The reaction shot blew the head off of the guy with the pistol, flew through him and then re-hit the guy I'd wounded before, killing him as well. Now that's a shocking level of detail to keep track of.

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~

Striking Yak posted:

Install it to the hard drive and it should be quiet. Fable 3 and Alan Wake made it sound like the industrial revolution was happening inside my 360. Must be something about the discs.

Content: Domination lines in Team Fortress 2. If you're not that good (like me) you won't hear them that often, but they're a nice little reward for doing well.
"You got a forehead on ya like a coffee table..."

I think one of the best is a Demoman line. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it goes something like "Dominated! And I've been shaggin' yer wife!"

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Neddy Seagoon posted:

FFX has great gameplay, but it has some really bad writing issues.
FFX has great gameplay for as much as ten minutes at a time, before the next cutscene sets in.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

FFX has some nice little things that live up to this thread - you can play Blitzball whenever you want, you can swap out characters in the middle of battles, you can see the upcoming turn order...lots of cool little touches there.

Of course the plot is boring nonsense, the outfits were put together by a colorblind person having a seizure, the voice acting is atrocious, and the leveling system is weird just for the sake of being weird.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
In Hotline Miami 2, some of the characters discuss getting from one building to another with one of them being unsure he could make it. The game takes away the option to choose who you play as, and the level progresses without any mention of unsure character. After beating the level, you find out he couldn't jump the gap, based on a large corpse outline.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Leal posted:

Speaking of something that could be a woman and Attila: The rage that has generated from women being soldiers in that game. Its magical how pissed off nerds get over it.

Wait, what? Women soldiers have been around at least as long as the original Rome:



Rome II even had a unit pack entirely dedicated around female soldiers. Are they just a lot more prevalent in Attila or something? Or am I just expecting too much logic from those people?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

It's also kinda nice that there's no moral compass of any kind in the game. If you want to go through capping civilians because they're in your way, than go right for it. There's even a stretch where the game hands you a minigun and walks you through a hallway with about a dozen civilian scientists from another Corporate Syndicate fleeing across from a side door, with about only three or four actual enemy guards in their midst.

I'm playing through the first Kane and Lynch right now after getting it in the last Humble Bundle and that's something I like about that game, too. Like in the Collateral-homage shootout in a packed nightclub, I tried to be careful and only hit the actual bad guys, but it was pretty nice not to have some partner going "WHAT ARE YOU DOING, KANE??? :supaburn:" in the event that I missed and dropped a civilian. Fit the game's tone, too.

Punished Chuck has a new favorite as of 17:42 on Mar 11, 2015

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

...are those chainmail bikinis?



Wait do the ones in Atilla have them as well or is that just a mod?

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH
I think they're strategically placed beads... the kind of 'tribal native' costume you get on TV that I doubt is all that accurate.

bbcisdabomb
Jan 15, 2008

SHEESH

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

I'm playing through the first Kane and Lynch right now after getting it in the last Humble Bundle and that's something I like about that game, too. Like in the Collateral-homage shootout in a packed nightclub, I tried to be careful and only hit the actual bad guys, but it was pretty nice not to have some partner going "WHAT ARE YOU DOING, KANE??? :supaburn:" in the event that I missed and dropped a civilian. Fit the game's tone, too.

If you go through in co-op the scene in the bank where Kane freaks out and kills a bunch of civilians claiming they're cops gets even better. Apparently, the second player actually sees all the civilians turn into cops and start shooting, which lead to my buddy yelling "THEY'RE STORMING THE BUILDING!" and open fire. I make it up the stairs just in time to see him cap the last civilian and both Kane and I yelled "What the gently caress?!" at the other guy.

That game was way too good to be the piece of poo poo it was. I hope it gets a third game.

Daktar posted:

I started playing again with the new expansions, and I got one of the most interesting characters I've had in a long while. I was a duke, and she my first daughter, poised to inherit the ducal throne. However, when she was born, the game told me that she made weird growling noises and caused other babies to cry. She was declared a suspected witch and the spawn of Satan. Good start, no?

When she turned six and was ready to be educated, a beautiful, genius, incredibly skilled nanny (also a suspected witch) turned up to look after her. Shortly before she turned 16, this nanny confessed her love for her and killed herself by throwing herself off a cliff at a family picnic. When she actually turned 16, she turned out to be a lesbian.

By this time, he'd been supplanted by a male heir. When the old Duke died, he became the new one, and also my player character. That didn't last long, though. Big sister was his regent and also his heir. An accident cleaning the roofs saw him dead and me playing a shiny new satanic duchess. The first time she went to war, a 3000 strong army showed up, led by three female generals, each of whom were, like the nanny, geniuses, beautiful, very skilled and suspected witches. They claimed that they'd heard the call of their master directing them to the 'Chosen One'. I won that war.

Throughout her life, the Duchess won countless more wars. Her son and heir, by way of some very clever marriages, became the king of Central Francia. And she took a string of peasant women as lovers during her many hunting trips. Also her sister. Gross

She died around 80, having built an incredibly powerful duchy that my new king inherited.

I loving love stories from Paradox games.

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

bbcisdabomb posted:

If you go through in co-op the scene in the bank where Kane freaks out and kills a bunch of civilians claiming they're cops gets even better. Apparently, the second player actually sees all the civilians turn into cops and start shooting, which lead to my buddy yelling "THEY'RE STORMING THE BUILDING!" and open fire. I make it up the stairs just in time to see him cap the last civilian and both Kane and I yelled "What the gently caress?!" at the other guy.

That game was way too good to be the piece of poo poo it was. I hope it gets a third game.

More games need to do this. My favorite part of Dead Space 3, hell the only part I really like, is that during the co-op only side missions Carver sees and hears poo poo that Isaac doesn't. For the entire first mission I didn't realize that until the very end when my friend told me to get away from some creepy kid or something that just did not exist. The whole time he was asking me "did you hear that" I just assumed it was something outside the game.

Really seems like it could make for a great mechanic in a co-op horror game, if there were any good ones.

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

TGLT posted:

More games need to do this.

Portal 2 does it to a lesser extent in the co-op. I don't think there's anything that both players see differently, but I know GLaDOS says different things to both players sometimes.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

In Hotline Miami 2 it's possibly to cut baddies' heads off. You can then kick the heads around like in Blood. :haw:

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Neddy Seagoon posted:

AH. HAH. HAH. HAH!

AH. HAH. HAH. HAH. HAH!


FFX has great gameplay, but it has some really bad writing issues.

FFX has a good plot

E: Hell, the writing is better than most any other RPG

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Hell, better than most other games full stop. Hell, better than many movies and books.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?
I'm actually playing FFX for the first time right now. I love the levelling system, but anyone who thinks the story is good better let me know when that's supposed to start being true, because I'm 12 hours in and it's a terrible story. The actual dialogue is passable, but the story is just ugh.

Tardcore
Jan 24, 2011

Not cool enough for the Spider-man club.

Avenging_Mikon posted:

I'm actually playing FFX for the first time right now. I love the levelling system, but anyone who thinks the story is good better let me know when that's supposed to start being true, because I'm 12 hours in and it's a terrible story. The actual dialogue is passable, but the story is just ugh.

The plot actually gets worse, much worse.

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Avenging_Mikon posted:

I'm actually playing FFX for the first time right now. I love the levelling system, but anyone who thinks the story is good better let me know when that's supposed to start being true, because I'm 12 hours in and it's a terrible story. The actual dialogue is passable, but the story is just ugh.

What about it do you have a problem with?

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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Avenging_Mikon posted:

I'm actually playing FFX for the first time right now. I love the levelling system, but anyone who thinks the story is good better let me know when that's supposed to start being true, because I'm 12 hours in and it's a terrible story. The actual dialogue is passable, but the story is just ugh.

The story of FFX is better than most American's English. :colbert:

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