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Motto posted:That's true, though I've never been completely clear on how that works, since my understanding is that manga is relatively mainstream while anime has a much smaller audience of children and/or loser manchildren. I guess it's to attract children to the kids stuff like Level 5 games, and also gain the notice of the obsessive otaku who will buy BDs and a ton of merch until ~their waifu~ looks at a guy and they burn it all? From what I've gathered: A manga/game company will commission an anime of one of their popular series. The anime company will then buy a late night block of programming on TV (11:00pm-5:00am.) They then sell DVDs of the program in 2-3 episode chunks with a sampler CD for around $80. Since the Voice Actors and animators are paid barely anything, the money from those sales then goes into the pocket of the production company and licensor. If they want more money they will then put out art books, character goods, or round up the VAs for a drama CD. On an unrelated Note: I've hit about level 48/chapter 6 in Shallie and now need to wait for the patch to really move on. The bosses and enemies I've been facing need better gear, but I feel like I'm missing out on the growth system as well.
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I was one of those people who enjoyed the third act of BD immensely. Turning off random encounters and speeding up battles in low level areas was necessary though, so I probably would have never finished the original JP release. The only thing that bugged me was that while most of the asterisk holders had new story and dialogue for each section, a few notables had nothing new. Also, I hated the last boss' classic FF "kill everyone" attacks and abused friend summons to beat him even though I was fairly high level, enough to handle the chapter 8 gauntlet without much trouble.
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bloodychill posted:I was one of those people who enjoyed the third act of BD immensely. Turning off random encounters and speeding up battles in low level areas was necessary though, so I probably would have never finished the original JP release. If you use alchemy to raise your max HP above 999, it's impossible for him to kill you. And the fight becomes the most boring thing ever. What annoyed me about it was that his attack wasn't counterable with Bushido for absolutely no reason.
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atelier shallie is basically atelier dune
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So just finished SMT IV neutral ending, and was picking up Bravely Default, when I realized about 8 hours in that I absolutely hated every single character in the loving game, and as much as I like the job system, refuse to pick it up past this point. (I think it really comes down to the awful writing / characters and the terrible anime cliche poo poo.) Looking for other suggestions for 3DS games, having trouble finding Monster Hunter, also considering Persona Q, and would be open to other RPG-like games.
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Is that a serious post, or are you really asking if you should pick up Persona Q when bravely default expended your anime limit
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Mar 15, 2015 22:34
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Wookie Bouquet posted:So just finished SMT IV neutral ending, and was picking up Bravely Default, when I realized about 8 hours in that I absolutely hated every single character in the loving game, and as much as I like the job system, refuse to pick it up past this point. (I think it really comes down to the awful writing / characters and the terrible anime cliche poo poo.) Crimson Shroud
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Mar 15, 2015 22:37
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Don't play PQ it's bad and if you thought BD had bad writing then PQ will kill you. Etrian Odyssey 4 is alright, Rune Factory 4 is good, Devil Survivor is also good.
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Mar 15, 2015 22:41
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Wookie Bouquet posted:having trouble finding Monster Hunter But Monster Hunter is on the eshop 
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Tae posted:Is that a serious post, or are you really asking if you should pick up Persona Q when bravely default expended your anime limit now come doki doki with me, tae-senpai
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Mar 15, 2015 22:48
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did i just enter the vita thread without realizing?
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Mar 15, 2015 22:49
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all threads are the vita, all vitas are the thread
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Mar 15, 2015 22:52
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Vita is life, anime RPGs are hometown.
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Million Ghosts posted:Don't play PQ it's bad and if you thought BD had bad writing then PQ will kill you. Etrian Odyssey 4 is alright, Rune Factory 4 is good, Devil Survivor is also good. OK good call scratching PQ from the list. Thinking I'll check out Devil Survivor, but Etrian Odyssey and Rune Factory seem too cutesy for me. I really like the idea of a farming simulator thing though... The White Dragon posted:But Monster Hunter is on the eshop Oh my god. This is a thing. I just got the system, and hadn't even looked at the store.
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Mar 15, 2015 22:57
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Let me give you a hint, most of those games are as anime or worse than BD. Just play Monster Hunter.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:00
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EO is 'cutesy' if by that you mean 'will mercilessly slaughter you for being a dumbass'
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If you have trouble with bad writing and characters I'm not sure Devil Survivor is for you either. Especially not 2.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:00
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why not just play crimson shroud, or alternatively rune factory 4
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corn in the bible posted:why not just play crimson shroud, or alternatively rune factory 4 On that note, how does 4 compare to 3?
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Mar 15, 2015 23:10
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better idea: embrace the anime, motherfucker
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If you don't like bad writing and characters maybe RPGs aren't for you
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Endorph posted:better idea: embrace the anime, motherfucker WARNING! WARNING! Anime containment chamber breached, all posters proceed to the panic room.
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My first JRPGs were Final Fantasy VII and Xenosaga Episode 1. I fear no Anime and neither should anyone else. Also you don't need to be an RPG to have bad writing/anime/lovely characters. See: Devil May Cry or Resident Evil NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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Mar 15, 2015 23:21
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Wookie Bouquet posted:OK good call scratching PQ from the list. Thinking I'll check out Devil Survivor, but Etrian Odyssey and Rune Factory seem too cutesy for me. I really like the idea of a farming simulator thing though... You should take a look at the Etrian Odyssey demos. They're pretty substantial and should give a good idea what the games are like.
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Overminty posted:On that note, how does 4 compare to 3? It's real good, yo. It adds requests, but otherwise mostly it's similar to 3.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:29
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The villagers aren't quite as... interesting in RF4 but other than that yeah it's just 3 but better.
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Endorph posted:better idea: embrace the anime, motherfucker yea atelier shallie is an awesome game and is anime as gently caress. i hope they patch the bug out because i'm level 35 last time i played. been spending more time fusing items than anything right now tho
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Has anyone actually seen the bug for themselves? I'm sure it's in there, but I'm wondering how much it affects the game from someone who's seen it first hand.
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:Has anyone actually seen the bug for themselves? I'm sure it's in there, but I'm wondering how much it affects the game from someone who's seen it first hand.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:44
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you ever play 7th saga for the snes? it's like that, but on accident
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hubris.height posted:yea Yeah, I just got to chapter 5 where The two Shallies team up and even with its idiosyncrasies it is really great.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sad about the game-ruining bug because otherwise I'd be recommending the poo poo out of it, but as it stands I really can't.
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i've almost started working on the atelier thread this is my progress report
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Cake Attack posted:i've almost started working on the atelier thread
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I don't think they're all that popular, it's just been quietely chugging along ever since the PS1.
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:Has anyone actually seen the bug for themselves? I'm sure it's in there, but I'm wondering how much it affects the game from someone who's seen it first hand. Yeah, I got to 40 last night. It doesn't crash the game is soon as you open the menu, but it does when you move the cursor over any of the passive augments and all the descriptions are still in Japanese.
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Paperhouse posted:I'm interested in seeing the thread, I've never played an Atelier game and until now didn't realise they were popular/meant to be good
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Paperhouse posted:I'm interested in seeing the thread, I've never played an Atelier game and until now didn't realise they were popular/meant to be good I always got the impression that they were a big thing in Japan but we never got those early games, so a lot of those good ideas from those games were eventually copied into other games so we never noticed the influence that Atelier had on the genre.
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They haven't been 'good' good until recently but they've made a niche for themselves.
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They're pretty upbeat games with a complex crafting system. I've enjoyed them as far back as Iris on PS2 but they've improved remarkably in the last few years (translation and bugs aside).
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