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Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Wolfsbane posted:

It probably helps that (in the UK at least) it was one of those iconic cars that people grow up wanting, like a E-type or a Skyline.

We got them in North America too, but not the hot Cosworth Versions (Ours had a 2.3L Turbo). They were called the Merkur XR4ti and confusingly marketed. Neat cars though.

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blk
Dec 19, 2009
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This seems like a ridiculous good price, and I've never seen a ZHP with this low mileage or in this good of condition. Pretty color, too.

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4929099157.html



I don't think I could talk my wife into a coupe since we're planning on having a babby soon. Maybe I could talk her into letting me buy it and keep it until that point - I'd really like something for my long highway commute that's more refined than the Saabaru. She has a near violent reaction to discussion of car buying, though, even though we could afford it - she's worried of me becoming our neighbor across the street who has several MR2s, Miatas, and Jeeps in various states of disrepair in his driveway.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Powershift posted:

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/calgary/travco/1056894238?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

It keeps teasing me. Taunting me. it's just priced way too hight. I'd be in at $3k which is what a mid 70s motorhome would be worth. it's just the perfect size and shape with the right styling.

Imagine this majestic beast in plum crazy purple or sublime


Why not both? Keep the stripe.

Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010

VideoTapir posted:

Why not both? Keep the stripe.
Isn't it already though? Looks purple and green to me. :v:

i have shamed the human race

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
The house is actually black, it's just before dark, and the trees are actually tree-shaped black holes.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


I fuckin hate you guys.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Powershift posted:

I fuckin hate you guys.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Powershift posted:

I fuckin hate you guys.
Powershift for mod.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

blk posted:

This seems like a ridiculous good price, and I've never seen a ZHP with this low mileage or in this good of condition. Pretty color, too.

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4929099157.html



I don't think I could talk my wife into a coupe since we're planning on having a babby soon. Maybe I could talk her into letting me buy it and keep it until that point - I'd really like something for my long highway commute that's more refined than the Saabaru. She has a near violent reaction to discussion of car buying, though, even though we could afford it - she's worried of me becoming our neighbor across the street who has several MR2s, Miatas, and Jeeps in various states of disrepair in his driveway.

Look I get that ZHPs are good cars, but at this point in time you're probably paying at least double what you'd spend on a non-ZHP E46, and not far off what you could pay for an E46 M3 if you are patient. That extra $6-7000 can buy a lot of cooling systems after all.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
I don't see the point of ZHPs. The cams are pretty much proven to make no extra power, the ECU software only differs in RPM limit, suspension is going to get changed by anyone looking to keep the car a long time, the 6spd is the same transmission as the normal 6spd 330, etc.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
At this point I think a G-body NOT on 24s would be more rare.

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4925090918.html

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cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

BlackMK4 posted:

I don't see the point of ZHPs. The cams are pretty much proven to make no extra power, the ECU software only differs in RPM limit, suspension is going to get changed by anyone looking to keep the car a long time, the 6spd is the same transmission as the normal 6spd 330, etc.

a friend of mine paid 10 or 12 for his 05 vert zhp.

I'm still loving laughing.

and its bmwing him HARD

bikesonyx
Oct 9, 2014

Human Grand Prix posted:

Nice post dipshit. Do you know how many '93 Camaro Z28s you could buy for that much?

about 75 :shrug:

razorscooter
Nov 5, 2008


went on the craigslist and found myself a GREAT IDEA

http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/4849497133.html
worth three 1993 Z28s, SMH

razorscooter fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Mar 15, 2015

HEY VAPER
May 15, 2014

by XyloJW

Friar Zucchini posted:

Dude. I had settled on getting a new Focus hatchback with a 5-speed but this is seriously giving me a Gollum moment fighting with myself. One of you needs to buy it and keep it away from me so I can quit going nuts trying to tell me a Focus would be better... which it is, but goddrat look at this classy piece of poo poo. Someone please buy it and keep it away from me.

http://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/4901254272.html

Hobbitses.

365 Nog Hogger posted:

I am utterly mystified by that price and your enthusiasm.

Try this:



It was a pretty magical moment, one of those rare times you not only get to laugh at a crackpipe car ad, but you get to watch the guy have a meltdown in real time as all three of the posts he made to sell his car hit over 1,000 replies each in a day. I linked the page on a few local, not retarded car enthusiast pages and a day later the seller was outed as a pedophile, posted pictures of crack rocks to impress us or something, shoved the entire plastic tip of a black and mild down his throat to make it look like he was smoking a blunt, claimed to be friends with Lil B, and admitted to spending almost a thousand dollars on fake instagram followers and talked about how people worship him. I think his uncle even chimed in that he owns a used car lot and wouldn't help him sell it because he had insane expectations. Oh he's also an Arab and said friend of the family about 10 times in the video ad he made for his car. The only word spoken in the entire 5 minute video was friend of the family.

So if you've ever wondered who's on the other end of those crackpipe ads, it's probably someone who's actually smoking crack.

HEY VAPER fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 15, 2015

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

razorscooter posted:

went on the craigslist and found myself a GREAT IDEA

http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/4849497133.html
worth three 1993 Z28s, SMH

I rarely post in AI but you must buy and post about this car.

E: it doesn't have the right headlamps but even so that is an awesome project
E2: turns out the correct headlamps were illegal at the time they were imported...

Sneaks McDevious fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Mar 15, 2015

Plankalkuel
Mar 29, 2008

razorscooter posted:

went on the craigslist and found myself a GREAT IDEA

http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/4849497133.html
worth three 1993 Z28s, SMH

Do it and tell us about it! I Want one of these, but I think I'll get one without moss inside and without burned out driver door.

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
The Wikipedia page reads like some dirty dirty porn when you get to the special variants part

Solar Coaster
Sep 2, 2009
Buy it and drop a small block V8 in it

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Solar Coaster posted:

Buy it and drop a small block V8 in it

gently caress that. put in a wankel.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
That's not something you see every day.

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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

julian assflange posted:

I rarely post in AI but you must buy and post about this car.

E: it doesn't have the right headlamps but even so that is an awesome project
E2: turns out the correct headlamps were illegal at the time they were imported...

Yeah I made a weird guttural growl like marge in the simpsons, thinking "stupid USA sealed beam laws making most 60s-80s euros ugly"

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





ATTN: Trouser Chili. I think your investment just might pay off.



Still five+ days left of bidding, too.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

VideoTapir posted:

At this point I think a G-body NOT on 24s would be more rare.

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4925090918.html



This person deserves to suffer for his transgressions. Has anyone donked a GN yet?

IOwnCalculus posted:

ATTN: Trouser Chili. I think your investment just might pay off.



Still five+ days left of bidding, too.

:stare: how is a Type R worth more than a GN? People have always paid alot for these, even back in the 90's, but that's ridiculous.

Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Mar 16, 2015

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Sir Tonk posted:

:stare: how is a Type R worth more than a GN? People have always paid alot for these, even back in the 90's, but that's ridiculous.

Weeaboos. $25,000 premium for close ratio gears, LSD, and ~20chp.

puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Mar 16, 2015

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

BlackMK4 posted:

I don't see the point of ZHPs. The cams are pretty much proven to make no extra power, the ECU software only differs in RPM limit, suspension is going to get changed by anyone looking to keep the car a long time, the 6spd is the same transmission as the normal 6spd 330, etc.

Far better looking bumpers, alcantara seats and a higher ratio rear differential too.

Not worth a 2-4k premium, but I'd gladly pay an extra 1k for the ZHP stuff if I were looking at e46's.

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011

IOwnCalculus posted:

ATTN: Trouser Chili. I think your investment just might pay off.



Still five+ days left of bidding, too.

I know someone that has a Type-R that they bought new and has only 30,000 miles on it.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Sir Tonk posted:

This person deserves to suffer for his transgressions. Has anyone donked a GN yet?


:stare: how is a Type R worth more than a GN? People have always paid alot for these, even back in the 90's, but that's ridiculous.

At one point ITRs had a 1 in 6 chance of being stolen PER YEAR. And they weren't just getting joyridden.

bikesonyx
Oct 9, 2014

razorscooter posted:

went on the craigslist and found myself a GREAT IDEA

http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/4849497133.html

Guys. Can we talk about this car more?

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Not that I'm in any position to take on suicidal car projects; but I am curious how bad an idea that is. Apart from the seats and door panels the interior looks pretty intact. Rust is present but looks like it might not be fatal. I'm guessing the suspension isn't working or won't be reliable if it is. Replacing that with something more mundane would defeat the purpose; but there've got to be options for improving/replacing it with something in the same vein, right? Does anyone actually care what engine it has? If the engine is a basket case, put anything smooth and quiet in it and you'd be good, right?

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Sir Tonk posted:

This person deserves to suffer for his transgressions. Has anyone donked a GN yet?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N824g50n5i8

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
The SM would probably be up there with the that Jag E Type restoration from AI in terms of cost

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Sir Tonk posted:

:stare: how is a Type R worth more than a GN? People have always paid alot for these, even back in the 90's, but that's ridiculous.

It's not. It's a dreamer and nobody, I mean nobody, is going to pay anything near that for a car with loving accident damage.


Extra posted:

Weeaboos. $25,000 premium for close ratio gears, LSD, and ~20chp.


It's considerably more capable than a GS-R, and blows away a basic DC or DA Integra. I happen to own a B18A1 Integra. And if were going to make this argument, the GN is nothing more than a tarted up version of a floppy 80s personal luxury car.

Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Mar 17, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
I don't understand the appeal of either. :confused:
I don't get honda love, all too cartoon d or :rice:
They built economy cars except for the NSX and s2000
I don't get any appeal of US 1980s-90s cars, it was just a tiny small step up from the malaise era. While they did do a non honda trick, ie stick a turbo on a plain car, it's still not a great thing. We still aren't talking i6 or v8 supremacy, it's still a buick v6 that every 6cyl commodore 1988-2003 has.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Mar 17, 2015

Plankalkuel
Mar 29, 2008

VideoTapir posted:

Not that I'm in any position to take on suicidal car projects; but I am curious how bad an idea that is. Apart from the seats and door panels the interior looks pretty intact. Rust is present but looks like it might not be fatal. I'm guessing the suspension isn't working or won't be reliable if it is. Replacing that with something more mundane would defeat the purpose; but there've got to be options for improving/replacing it with something in the same vein, right? Does anyone actually care what engine it has? If the engine is a basket case, put anything smooth and quiet in it and you'd be good, right?

As I've decided to get an SM as soon as my wallet allows, I've studied them a bit. The general gist is, get the best car you can, as everything else will be more expensive in the end. Replacement parts are a problem, as Citroen is horrible with parts for cars even half that age!

Citroen's hydropneumatic suspension is actually quite robust and reliable, if properly cared for. Keep in mind, hey went rallying with the SM and won! Furthermore, replacing the suspension would probably be even more daunting than a complete restoration, as the hydraulics power not just the suspension, but steering, brakes, and the swiveling headlamps!

The engine of the SM is a Maserati built V6. If properly cared for, it is quite durable, but if not, it is going to break! In particular the timing chains must be cared for or the engine is toast. The main chain and its tensioner must be checked for wear. The secondary chains must be adjusted by hand at certain intervals (every 5000 kms, if memory serves).
The valves are another issue. As in old aircraft engines, the valve-stems are hollow and filled with sodium. This will essentially form a heat-pipe (think CPU cooler) as the sodium will melt, once the engine is warm, and transport heat away from the cylinders. This is more of a gimick, but the sodium will corrode the valve-stems and starting/driving an SM with the original valves is very risky! Replacement valves with solid stems are available and work fine. Concerning replacement, you have to keep in mind that the engine was specifically designed to fit into the SM. For that reason its cylinder banks are angeled at 90° like in a V8. The utilities like the hydraulics pump and the AC compressor are driven by the main timing chain and thus sit in front of the engine and at the hight of the cylinder banks! In short, there is probably no engine that will just slot in!

Furthermore, both the engine and the hydraulics are part of the SM's character. Replacing them is pretty much sacrilege! As far as I can tell, a properly cared for SM is actually quite reliable, especially if you consider that it was a high-tech grand tourer that could keep up with its contemporaries or even surpass them. This particular SM is probably a parts car at best.

Quite A Tool
Jul 4, 2004

The answer is... 42
Could this be legit gold? Working on the screenshot because chromebooks confuse me. Posted an hour ago. $2500 '91 Galant VR4 with some electrical gremlins and what looks like a deece pile of paperwork.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/4936543342.html

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
trade my non working 25 year old car for an AK47!

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747
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puberty worked me over fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jan 4, 2020

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Extra posted:

Per usual I was talking about my rear end and the entire ITR unibody is reinforced and has multiple components lighter than your standard GS-R.

Yes. It's also got a handbuilt, balanced and blueprinted motor. It's effectively a factory prepped race car that happens to be street legal.

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Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Fo3 posted:

I don't understand the appeal of either. :confused:
I don't get honda love, all too cartoon d or :rice:
They built economy cars except for the NSX and s2000
I don't get any appeal of US 1980s-90s cars, it was just a tiny small step up from the malaise era. While they did do a non honda trick, ie stick a turbo on a plain car, it's still not a great thing. We still aren't talking i6 or v8 supremacy, it's still a buick v6 that every 6cyl commodore 1988-2003 has.

Honda built some excellent economy cars, and arguably still build pretty good ones. You could make the argument that the ITR was the best FWD for quite some time. Despite what I said the Grand National can be seriously fast and the 3800 Turbo is one hell of an engine.

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