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FlamingLiberal posted:It's always funny how posters like the IDF guy only show up when the bombs start dropping....hmmm.... illrepute posted:The I/P thread during the summer war in Gaza was a knock-down drag-out brawl and I'm glad I got to poo poo all over Kaal and that IDF guy. Duckbag posted:Quick guys, start making GBS threads on Sharon again. I want to see an entire page that's just Avshalom posts. even for an I/P thread these are bad posts, shut up about posting
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Grouchio posted:So we should know the election results by 6pm EST? No. After the ballots close at 22:00 Israel time the unofficial 'outside the ballots' poll results are released, this is I think 4pm EST, then, tomorrow morning (around your midnight I think) the partial results consisting of about 90% of the ballots being tallied will be published, in two days time the almost-really-final results accounting for 99% of the ballots should be published, then somewhen towards the weekend the really-actually-final results accounting for soldier's and diplomat votes would be released. The unofficial poll is usually relatively accurate but I personally remember at least one occasion (1996) when the poll predicted a marginal victory for Shimon Peres but by the morning after the actual tally shown that Netanyahu won by quite a few seats. tl;dr: tomorrow morning Israel time. about 14 hours from now.
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Wait a couple days to release actual numbers so the current prime minister knows where he needs to cook the books.
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While election fraud happens on some level in Israel (deceased citizens have been known to vote on occasion, particularly in the Haredi sector), mass forgery and doctoring of the election results in a way that would actually tip the scales is simply unheard of, for what it's worth the US seems to have a a far more shady track record when it comes to this sort of thing, that kind of tinfoil paranoia is simply misplaced, a couple of days to accurately count several millions of votes does not seem unreasonable to me.
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Mar 17, 2015 16:45
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It's only Tuesday and it's already been a particularly crap week so watching that fat piece of poo poo Netanyahu flounder around trying to save his political career while covered in a thin sheen of racism and flopsweat has been a nice pick-me-up.
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Mar 17, 2015 16:48
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Zeroisanumber posted:It's only Tuesday and it's already been a particularly crap week so watching that fat piece of poo poo Netanyahu flounder around trying to save his political career while covered in a thin sheen of racism and flopsweat has been a nice pick-me-up. Thin?
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Mar 17, 2015 16:56
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Bye Bye Bibi,
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Mar 17, 2015 16:57
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What would netanyahu do if he isn't PM again, would he get a cabinet position or go work as a military lobbyist or something?
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It appears as though chickenshit's "The arabs are voting!!" schtick had possibly had a rather negative effect, the voting turnout in Israeli-Palestinian cities is reportedly somewhat lower than it was during the previous elections which seems to defy everybody's expectations, according to MK Ahmed Tibi this is the result of Netanyahu's comments instilling a false sense of complacency among Israeli-Palestinian voters. MK Tibi is calling upon Palestinian citizens to vote immediately, it's too bad no one told him that the best recourse is actually to not vote at all or vote for Netanyahu cause accelerationism and karmic justice or whatever.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:What would netanyahu do if he isn't PM again, would he get a cabinet position or go work as a military lobbyist or something? If he's not in the governing coalition my understanding is as the head of the largest non-governing party he would be the head of the opposition (unless he resigned or was forced out).
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Mar 17, 2015 17:21
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Really really desperate for that schedenfreude if Tom Cotton and the Republican senate end up bringing down Netanyahu.
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Mar 17, 2015 17:28
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4637898,00.html To the surprise of no one, Likud admits it released a forged tape of Moshe Kahlon (Kulanu) endorsing Bibi.
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Mar 17, 2015 17:33
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evilweasel posted:If he's not in the governing coalition my understanding is as the head of the largest non-governing party he would be the head of the opposition (unless he resigned or was forced out). The rumors are that if Netanyahu fails to secure the PM office for another term he'll be ousted by the Likud general assembly with former MK Gideon Saar taking his place, it is actually customary in Israeli politics for a PM who's lost the elections to bow out of the party's leadership for at least one term, I'd say it's very unlikely we'd say Netanyahu as head of the opposition. JeffersonClay posted:Really really desperate for that schedenfreude if Tom Cotton and the Republican senate end up bringing down Netanyahu. The congress address certainly didn't do him any favors but his recent collapse in the polls likely has more to do with his histrionics this past week, particularly the Kahlon tape mentioned by Bear Retrieval Unit could have tipped the scales against him, it was a very dumb move.
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Mar 17, 2015 17:40
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"Right-wing rule is in danger. Arab voters are streaming in huge quantities to the polling stations,” Mr. Netanyahu said in the video. “The left-wing nonprofit organizations are bringing them in buses.”" So openly racist even the NYT is calling him on it. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/18/world/middleeast/netanyahu-israel-elections-arabs.html?_r=0&referrer=
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Netanyahu tried to make a live televised statement today but the Central Elections Committee banned him from doing so. He must really be desperate. http://www.nytimes.com/live/israel-elections-vote-results/netanyahu-expected-to-make-a-statement/
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Mar 17, 2015 18:27
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He really does act like a loving small-town mayor.
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Mar 17, 2015 18:47
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Ultramega posted:He really does act like a loving small-town mayor. The entire country has less than the population of NYC, so while he's not so much a small-town mayor he is basically a big-town mayor.
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Mar 17, 2015 18:50
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Xandu posted:"Right-wing rule is in danger. Arab voters are streaming in huge quantities to the polling stations,” Mr. Netanyahu said in the video. “The left-wing nonprofit organizations are bringing them in buses.”" Imagine an American politician acting publicly alarmed at black voter turnout oh wait
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Mar 17, 2015 18:54
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bencreateddisco posted:Imagine an American politician acting publicly alarmed at black voter turnout Yeah American conservatives say that very thing about buses pretty much every election
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Mar 17, 2015 18:57
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http://www.cna.org/sites/default/files/research/DRM-2013-U-004480-Final2.pdf Just gonna drop this here.
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Mar 17, 2015 19:24
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Voter turnout at 65% right meow.
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Mar 17, 2015 19:59
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Anshel Pfeffer predicts that tomorrow we will have 2 victory speeches and no coalition.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:08
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evilweasel posted:The entire country has less than the population of NYC, so while he's not so much a small-town mayor he is basically a big-town mayor. This reminds me of a comment Noam Chomsky said in a debate with Alan Dershowitz, something to the effect of "The jews don't need a second homeland, they already have New York City." Ultramega fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Mar 17, 2015 |
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Mar 17, 2015 20:09
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evilweasel posted:The entire country has less than the population of NYC, so while he's not so much a small-town mayor he is basically a big-town mayor. Except that Israel is significantly larger, and is an independent state with, among other things, it's own army. So he's actually nothing like a big-town mayor.
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Main Paineframe posted:Netanyahu tried to make a live televised statement today but the Central Elections Committee banned him from doing so. He must really be desperate. "Salim Joubran, a judge on the Supreme Court of Israel" Yet another Arab conspiracy.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:22
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Who the gently caress is ahead right now.
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Torrannor posted:Except that Israel is significantly larger, and is an independent state with, among other things, it's own army. So he's actually nothing like a big-town mayor. Yeah, I would say he's more like the PM of a small country. You terrible analogy using fucks.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:33
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The ballots are open for another half an hour, there are no results yet.
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Torrannor posted:Except that Israel is significantly larger, and is an independent state with, among other things, it's own army. So he's actually nothing like a big-town mayor. Apparently, you never heard of Frank Rizzo.
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Mar 17, 2015 20:48
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Exit polls when?! Exit poll Ch 2: Likud 28 ZU 27 Arab list 13 Lapid 12 Kahlon 9 Bennett 8 Shas 7 UTJ 6 Lieberman 5 Meretz 5 Yachad 0
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Exit polls when?! Likud 27 Zionist Camp 27 JAL 12 Yesh Atid 12 Kulanu 10 Jewish Home 9 Shas 7 United Torah 6 Meretz 5 Yisrael Beitenu 5 Yachad 0 (all others zero)
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Volkerball posted:Exit poll Ch 2: Likud 28 ZU 27 Arab list 13 Lapid 12 Kahlon 9 Bennett 8 Shas 7 UTJ 6 Lieberman 5 Meretz 5 Yachad 0 Channel 1 Likud 27 ZU 27 TJL 12 YA 12 Kulanu 10 BY 9 Shas 7 UTJ 6 Meretz 5 YB 5 edit: nvm, this is the one al hazred posted.
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OK what does all that mean for those of us paying only passing attention? The two major parties I know, but where do the others fall on the scale, who's likely to form a coalition with who, that sort of thing.
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Channel 10 Results: Likud 27 Zionist Camp 27 Joint List 13 Yesh Atid 11 Kulanu 8 Jewish Home 8 Shas 7 UTJ 7 Yisrael Beitenu 5 Meretz 5 Yachad 0. Keep in mind that none of those includes anyone voting after 8PM, and this isn't a count, but an exit poll. There may also be additional soldiers` and diplomats` votes which may move things around as it seems that three parties are on the brink.
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ReidRansom posted:OK what does all that mean for those of us paying only passing attention? The two major parties I know, but where do the others fall on the scale, who's likely to form a coalition with who, that sort of thing. Here's the anti-Netanyahu crowd in Rabin square all shut the gently caress up, if that helps. 
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ReidRansom posted:OK what does all that mean for those of us paying only passing attention? The two major parties I know, but where do the others fall on the scale, who's likely to form a coalition with who, that sort of thing. Netenyahu has a much easier path to a coalition than the Zionist Camp, so if he actually tied with them he's probably going to remain PM.
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