Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Necc0 posted:

almost a full page discussion of brooding electronic sub-genres and no post-ironic mentions of sea punk being washed-up i thought this was loving yospos

guess that one slipped through the net

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
yeah i guess the tides have turned

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug
as did that snypportunity <:(>

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Necc0 posted:

almost a full page discussion of brooding electronic sub-genres and no post-ironic mentions of sea punk being washed-up i thought this was loving yospos

that's because it's sunk m8

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
shore glad we arent talking about new wave

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

hobbesmaster posted:

they are only valued at 800k-1.2m each because they are never on the market

if all of his went on the market at the same time who knows what they'd actually be worth

qirex posted:

I refuse to feel bad for anyone whose business plan starts with "assume the value of thing X will increase forever"


...but with bitcoin.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Luigi Thirty posted:

there is one true genre of music and it's 1970s FM hard rock stations as interpreted by people in Norway when the signal that bounced off the moon finally reached them thus making them culturally backward

and it all ended up on spotify somehow

isnt this just turbonegro?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Moist von Lipwig posted:

isnt this just turbonegro?

TURBONEGRO BUTTON would be pretty yosposey

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
lol

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Jonny 290 posted:

grime is so very different


and worse

grime is awful poo poo, like footwork


nothings worse than coming across a white american saying 'i like this hip gahhrahhhhggjje'

actually there are lots of things worse but sayin

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

nah i feel you. it's just funny cause it didn't exactly originate in the uk, the paradise garage was in new york

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

OldAlias posted:

nah i feel you. it's just funny cause it didn't exactly originate in the uk, the paradise garage was in new york

erm these are two completely different things

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts
UNLESS YOU'RE TRICKING ME

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
its called garage because the originally used samples of garage doors opening

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

graph posted:

UNLESS YOU'RE TRICKING ME

:pram:

e. i'm going to sleep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUiA0UOKIlc

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

this is unironically a good thing

today's public transit buses came out of private for-profit bus services that were so useful to the public they came to be considered a public good, long after they stopped being profitable

if private buses are profitable again, that's a sign that demand for mass (if not rapid) transit is high.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Cardboard Box A posted:

http://nypost.com/2015/03/16/taxi-kingpin-in-debt-thanks-to-uber/



The city’s “Taxi Kingpin’’ is having trouble hacking it as he battles mounds of debt — thanks to Uber.

Gene Freidman, who owns more than 900 city cab medallions, has been hit so hard by the car-hailing app that he can’t meet his bills — and Citibank is now foreclosing on at least 90 of his medallions to recoup what he owes, court records and sources say.

“Gene Freidman’s business model requires him to lease out hundreds of cars every day, and because he can’t find drivers because of Uber, [it] means he’s not making money,” an industry source told The Post.

“All of these [medallion owners] borrow as much as they can against medallions, and they get cash-crunched when, all of a sudden, you get competition in the market.”


lol this idiot built a cardboard empire on cheap money and lies, and now he's shocked, shocked that his volatile, illiquid investments made with borrowed money aren't magical tickets to wealth

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003


im the ad for a college

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

this is unironically a good thing

today's public transit buses came out of private for-profit bus services that were so useful to the public they came to be considered a public good, long after they stopped being profitable

if private buses are profitable again, that's a sign that demand for mass (if not rapid) transit is high.

they will never be profitable again when their gimmick is to have like 20 seats available for a full run

also: private bus lines have remained a thing in like the nyc suburbs. but they run normal buses with charter-bus level seating, still pack in a good 50-60 people per run, and have long standing agreements with public bus authority terminals in the city and sharing arrangements with transit authority park and ride centers, using the relatively less congested out of the city road network. there's no room to succeed within a city really, especially if you're trying to match the exact same route the public authority has been servicing for 50 years.

you can maybe eke out an in-city working situation if you connect areas that otherwise need a lot of connections to get between, but surprise surprise there tends to be little actual demand there

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Mar 18, 2015

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Nintendo Kid posted:

they will never be profitable again when their gimmick is to have like 20 seats available for a full run

unprofitability is also a choice

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
here's an example of an actual profitable private bus service:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/realestate/28comm.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1426656343-A15OUL0/A/5aXMTFTY6QKA

it solely exists for the idiots who moved 90 miles away from the city on the promises that the passenger rail discontinued int he 60s would be reactivated as commuter rail "soon" ever since like 1980.

now since driving 90 miles every day sucks poo poo, and the state of nj adamantly refuses to expand the width of I-80 in the western part of the state to discourage car commutes, the private bus operator has a captive audience of dunces who pretty much have it as their only option.

the train will eventually come, but it won't be til 2016 when service returns to the first station on the out-of-service section, which will be 46 miles away from the place the people live in pa. current plans, which have no funding mind you, have the first station in pennslyvania and only 18 miles away from where people live going live sometime around 2025-2030. stations in nj but closer than the first station to open have varying levels of funding and opening horizons, assuming no delays, of the early 2020s.

once that happens, the bus line will probably quickly shut down.

--------------------

incidentally you may ask "wait, why did they move the whole 90 miles out, why not something more sane like 50?". well the answer to that is that development to the west from manhattan within new jersey is kept within roughly 30 miles of the hudson, for the most part. past then you get increasing state regulations on development making it way harder for your random developer to whip up a subdivision of 100 mcmansions. past about 45 miles out this control gets pretty tight and as such development density drops drastically, but Pennslyvania doesn't give a gently caress and lets you develop as much as you want once you cross the border after 80 miles out or so.

the result is a pseudo greenbelt 35-40 miles deep which is really quite nice, even though little of it is formal parkland, and the much increased density of development of the inner suburbs.

there's also free reign to develop towards philadelphia in the southwest from manhattan but for some reason these people insist on going way further away so they have to leave for their commute at 5 am to be sure they're in by 9, lol

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Mar 18, 2015

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

rjmccall posted:

oh, but the leap bus picks up until 10am inbound and 8pm outbound, whereas the 30X stops picking up at 9am and 6:20pm respectively and you'd have to walk a block to catch the 30

how is this company even getting vc money, they probably need to be half-full every trip just to break even on fuel and labor, much less maintenance and capital expenses

not even über drivers are dumb enough to buy an entire bus just to drive it around for a company for a share of the fares

a few hundred thousand per investor is chump change, and investors will throw a few pennies at everything they see, no matter how dumb it looks, for fear of missing out on the next uber

sure, uber's long-term prospects are dismal, but its valuation has skyrocketed and it's now worth about 1/3rd as much as cisco and a bit under 1/4th as much as amazon and oracle. i don't really understand how valuations and venture capital and all that poo poo work, but if there's a way to convert that value into cash, and it's carried out before uber's inevitable demise, early uber investors are going to climb a couple of rungs on the richness hierarchy.

according to fortune, someone who put 20 grand (pocket change, essentially, for these people) into uber's very first funding round now owns 40 million bucks worth of uber value, and i'm guessing there will eventually be a way to convert that paper value to real value. so now multimillionaires with money to burn are chucking a couple dozen grand at every tech startup that knocks on their door, because even if most of them are huge failures, just one or two big successes will more than pay for all the money wasted on the failed companies

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Nintendo Kid posted:

also: private bus lines have remained a thing in like the nyc suburbs. but they run normal buses with charter-bus level seating, still pack in a good 50-60 people per run, and have long standing agreements with public bus authority terminals in the city and sharing arrangements with transit authority park and ride centers, using the relatively less congested out of the city road network. there's no room to succeed within a city really, especially if you're trying to match the exact same route the public authority has been servicing for 50 years.

commuter buses have remained profitable for decades. it surprises no one when express service from the suburbs to transit hubs in major job centers is profitable.

this lovely startup bus line is a local bus operating inside a very tiny area, catering to an audience that has historically refused to ride public transit. it's hugely encouraging

p.s. your edit was super dirty

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

commuter buses have remained profitable for decades. it surprises no one when express service from the suburbs to transit hubs in major job centers is profitable.

this lovely startup bus line is a local bus operating inside a very tiny area, catering to an audience that has historically refused to ride public transit. it's hugely encouraging

p.s. your edit was super dirty

they don't tend to offer particularly express service compared to the other express public buses. they just sometimes have better times/places to board, especially towards the poncier areas. hell a few of them even became operators for public transit services in recent times because they started losing their edge

this lovely startup bus line has already failed once before, in 2013, i don't see any reason to consider it to be a success in 2015, especially when they seem to have gone een more whole hog on wasteful bus decorations. it's not hugely encouraging in the least.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Nintendo Kid posted:

they don't tend to offer particularly express service compared to the other express public buses.
express private bus just as non-stop as express public bus, film at eleven

Nintendo Kid posted:

this lovely startup bus line has already failed once before, in 2013, i don't see any reason to consider it to be a success in 2015, especially when they seem to have gone een more whole hog on wasteful bus decorations. it's not hugely encouraging in the least.

failure is always an option

it is cool and good that they even imagine there's a market, much less that they could find those conditions twice

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

Nintendo Kid posted:

they will never be profitable again when their gimmick is to have like 20 seats available for a full run

also: private bus lines have remained a thing in like the nyc suburbs. but they run normal buses with charter-bus level seating, still pack in a good 50-60 people per run, and have long standing agreements with public bus authority terminals in the city and sharing arrangements with transit authority park and ride centers, using the relatively less congested out of the city road network. there's no room to succeed within a city really, especially if you're trying to match the exact same route the public authority has been servicing for 50 years.

you can maybe eke out an in-city working situation if you connect areas that otherwise need a lot of connections to get between, but surprise surprise there tends to be little actual demand there

hampton jitney has always been my favorite thing. bunch of rich kids on a charter bus going to visit mommy/daddy because they're too good to ride the LIR.

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer
mostly because taking the train cuts off literal hours of the commute during the peak season.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
i thought the proper way to visit the hamptons was to take that uber-but-for-helicopters service

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

FMguru posted:

i thought the proper way to visit the hamptons was to take that uber-but-for-helicopters service

the proper way to visit the Hamptons is waving a cowboy hat and yelling while straddling an armed nuclear bomb plummeting the last few miles to earth

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Cocoa Crispies posted:

the proper way to visit the Hamptons is waving a cowboy hat and yelling while straddling an armed nuclear bomb plummeting the last few miles to earth

since kurt vonnegut died, yes

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/03/a-6-commute-with-wi-fi-usb-ports-and-coconut-water/

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug
"Leap is providing a technological solution to an age-old problem: the commute," Billy Draper, of Draper Associates, an investor in Leap, told Ars by e-mail.

that technological solution is motorized transport you rear end, making an ios app for it isn't any better than what we've had for over a century

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

lol at trying to sit on those stools in traffic

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

quote:

Sitting along the wooden counter felt more like being on a train than a bus—it sure was comfortable, but it was hard to imagine actually doing real work (in our case, writing) while stopping, starting, and going up and down the hills of San Francisco.

But then, Kirchhoff admitted to Ars his superpower: "I don’t get carsick."

empathy.txt right here

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

it's not even a coach bus?? the casinos let you ride theirs for free

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



the bus thing is loving stupid and is a solution to something that isn't a problem, unless your problem is that you're rich + white and don't want to be around poor minorities

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
public or private doesn't matter, busses always suck

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



Shaggar posted:

public or private doesn't matter, busses always suck

busses can be fine if you can somehow limit the amount of traffic around them and/or have many short but frequently run routes

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.
French police have raided the offices of Uber in Paris as the taxi service continues to operate in the city despite officials claiming that it breaks national laws.

Hot on the heels of charges being made against Uber employees in South Korea over allegations of operating illegal taxi rings, Le Monde is now reporting that French Police have raided Uber's offices in Paris. The newspaper reports that 25 policemen raided the building, seizing documents and electronic hardware.

http://gizmodo.com/police-have-raided-ubers-parisian-hq-1692102556

:getin:

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:

French police have raided the offices of Uber in Paris as the taxi service continues to operate in the city despite officials claiming that it breaks national laws.

Hot on the heels of charges being made against Uber employees in South Korea over allegations of operating illegal taxi rings, Le Monde is now reporting that French Police have raided Uber's offices in Paris. The newspaper reports that 25 policemen raided the building, seizing documents and electronic hardware.

http://gizmodo.com/police-have-raided-ubers-parisian-hq-1692102556

:getin:

:gizz:

  • Locked thread