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My Imaginary GF posted:Hamas' continued pursuit of unacceptable policy has killed what was left of Oslo, and Israel has elected a government that recognizes this failure while seeking to move forward with future policy. You say that Israel is the most American country of all- but that's where you go wrong and show your lack of loyalty. America is the most American country. It's the only one that really matters, all other national interests are expendable, it's high time we made Israel realize this. Time to give Chickenshit his due- an 'accidental' hellfire missile on his motorcade.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Democratic election does not, by itself, make a government legitimate. Actually, no, that's precisely what makes a democratic government legi... oh wait, who am I replying to?
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Lum_ posted:Actually, no, that's precisely what makes a democratic government legi... oh wait, who am I replying to? I had exactly this conversation with some rear end in a top hat on youtube when they tried saying hamas and hezbollah weren't really democratically elected and hey hitler was elected too and yeah uh come back after you read a loving book you hayseed. Before you say anything, I don't get much of an opportunity to debate the israel/palestine conflict irl without being made to look like an antisemitic fanatic and sometimes I just come across the most ballnumbingly stupid comment someone left under a finkelstein or chomsky video and my choler rises. Ultramega fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 03:25
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Panzeh posted:You say that Israel is the most American country of all- but that's where you go wrong and show your lack of loyalty. America is the most American country. It's the only one that really matters, all other national interests are expendable, it's high time we made Israel realize this. Time to give Chickenshit his due- an 'accidental' hellfire missile on his motorcade. I get the part where you accuse MIGF of being a fifth columnist with dual loyalties who treacherously favors Israel over America(not exactly a fresh sort of accusation around these threads), but is it the assassination of the PM of Israel you're calling for in the second sentence? Or some other world leader?
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Mar 19, 2015 03:45
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My Imaginary GF posted:Hamas' continued pursuit of unacceptable policy has killed what was left of Oslo, and Israel has elected a government that recognizes this failure while seeking to move forward with future policy. This presumes that the Israeli position is equally sustainable and reasonable. Bibi just wants to perpetuate the crisis in Gaza and the West Bank by building more walls and buffer zones. Israelis don't want to give citizenship to any Palestinian, nor can they recognize that states other than Israel have the right to arm and defend themselves. What part of any of that is sustainable or reasonable? The ideal option at this point is for Hamas/Hezbollah to defeat the IDF in the field- Israel has used their military as a crutch for far too long. Let's see what happens when that is knocked out from under them. Job Truniht fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 03:52
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Dead Reckoning posted:Hahaha, yes it was. Various Partisan groups in occupied Europe made use of them.
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Mar 19, 2015 04:14
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Panzeh posted:You say that Israel is the most American country of all- but that's where you go wrong and show your lack of loyalty. America is the most American country. It's the only one that really matters, all other national interests are expendable, it's high time we made Israel realize this. Time to give Chickenshit his due- an 'accidental' hellfire missile on his motorcade. Actually, The Philippines is the most American country.
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The Insect Court posted:I get the part where you accuse MIGF of being a fifth columnist with dual loyalties who treacherously favors Israel over America(not exactly a fresh sort of accusation around these threads), but is it the assassination of the PM of Israel you're calling for in the second sentence? Or some other world leader? Defending MIGF lol. Rahm thanks you for your support
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Mar 19, 2015 04:23
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It is America's prerogative to oversee regime change within its sphere of influence so I don't see what the problem is.
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Venom Snake posted:Defending MIGF lol. It's TIC I'm not surprised they ended up in the same dark hole
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:It's TIC I'm not surprised they ended up in the same dark hole Chicago?
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So what are the chances of Bibi-kun starting a war with Iran to force the US to choose between them and make sure the normalization of American-Iranian relations fails?
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Mar 19, 2015 05:44
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icantfindaname posted:So what are the chances of Bibi-kun starting a war with Iran to force the US to choose between them and make sure the normalization of American-Iranian relations fails? Better than they used to be.
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Mar 19, 2015 05:57
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i am going to suck bibi into the slavering chasm of my vagina and mince him down to a fine paste
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Mar 19, 2015 05:58
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icantfindaname posted:So what are the chances of Bibi-kun starting a war with Iran to force the US to choose between them and make sure the normalization of American-Iranian relations fails? Bibi knows Israel has zero chance of winning a war with Iran and he's not going to start one.
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my body is a pastoral idyll, a delta sitting serene in the fork of the roaring river of modern sexuality; its climate is gentle, its earth is soft and fecund, but far below my skin vicious tectonic plates wait to chew the unwary penis (i.e., bibi) to a sodden bloody dust my breasts
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Mar 19, 2015 06:09
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I'm pretty sure now that Bibi won his election he'll be relatively quiet about Iran for a while.
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Mar 19, 2015 06:21
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Venom Snake posted:Bibi knows Israel has zero chance of winning a war with Iran and he's not going to start one. He could still provoke a crisis, even though Israel can't realistically conquer and occupy Iran. I think there's a good chance he simply will not allow the nuke deal to be concluded, hell with the consequences
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Mar 19, 2015 06:43
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icantfindaname posted:He could still provoke a crisis, even though Israel can't realistically conquer and occupy Iran. I think there's a good chance he simply will not allow the nuke deal to be concluded, hell with the consequences A bad deal is a dead deal is a less than diplomatic campaign against Iran. A bad deal is Iran refusing to allow inspections wherever and whenever the inspectors wish to inspect. To refuse this is to mean that Iran is hiding nuclear weapon development on military bases, as they have done in the past. Fortunately, Israel can rely upon America to understand that the non-existance of an Iranian state is preferable to an Iranian state with nuclear weapons, for this is all that has restrained Israeli policy from appropriate military redress to Iranian aggression.
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Mar 19, 2015 07:27
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Venom Snake posted:Defending MIGF lol. Just askin' questions about the weird Jew-bating that certain people seem incapable of engaging in  Guess I can't quite understand the sort of mind who looks at someone with the 'wrong' opinion on I/P and starts foaming at the mouth about how they're traitors to America who secretly favor a foreign power. It's....weird, to say the least. And it never seems to come up in any other sort of D&D thread.
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The Insect Court posted:Just askin' questions about the weird Jew-bating that certain people seem incapable of engaging in Because Israel enjoys loving with American internal politics way to much and needs to stop. It would be very appropriate if Israel provoked Iran into a war and when Nutty Yahoo called the white house for support he got transferred to a loop of all the news reports of him campaigning for Mitt Romney. Everyone in the administration hates his stupid rear end.
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My Imaginary GF posted:A bad deal is a dead deal is a less than diplomatic campaign against Iran. A bad deal is Iran refusing to allow inspections wherever and whenever the inspectors wish to inspect. To refuse this is to mean that Iran is hiding nuclear weapon development on military bases, as they have done in the past. Not that engaging you on Middle East (or most) topics is a productive use of time, but I'm not buying the narrative that America can or would up and topple Iran. Unless the same Neocons who thought the Iraq War was a good idea get back into power and decide the problem is America needed to double-down, I just don't think there's enough of an appetite in America for the level of violence necessary to bring down Iran. It's too daunting for anyone but a White House full of true believers to face. Maybe America would go so far as to airstrike nuclear facilities in Iran (or allow Israel to airstrike Iran) if they actually did think Iran was actually on the cusp of completing a nuclear weapon, although ironically Israel's crying wolf on this subject has probably made this harder to assess. I'd actually be curious at the reactions if Iran came out one day and revealed they'd actually completed one (or several) nuclear weapons in complete secrecy, and had some way to prove it. If Israel and the US were suddenly forced to accept a world where Iran was armed with nuclear weapons I think there'd be some pretty drastic shifts in the Middle East power balance, and probably a fair bit of surprise from some corners when they discover the US isn't willing to launch a nuclear first strike in that scenario if Iran doesn't use theirs.
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Dolash posted:I'd actually be curious at the reactions if Iran came out one day and revealed they'd actually completed one (or several) nuclear weapons in complete secrecy, and had some way to prove it. If Israel and the US were suddenly forced to accept a world where Iran was armed with nuclear weapons I think there'd be some pretty drastic shifts in the Middle East power balance, and probably a fair bit of surprise from some corners when they discover the US isn't willing to launch a nuclear first strike in that scenario if Iran doesn't use theirs. I think Israel is though. I could see Israel getting incredibly close to launching the nukes if and when Iran gets them
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Realistically, how likely is it that Netanyahu recommits to a two-state solution after forming a coalition, and would anybody believe him?
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The Insect Court posted:Just askin' questions about the weird Jew-bating that certain people seem incapable of engaging in I never accused MIGF of having two loyalties, I accused him of having one, and it's not to the US. Anyway someone has to match his level of rhetoric, to bring out the absurdity of the positions espoused, though I am sure some of them are mainstream in US politics which is a sad fact. You seem to really love coming into the thread and getting mad at people's rhetoric at this thread, foaming at the mouth that people don't repeat the refrains "The Jewish People have a right to a Jewish State." and "Israel has a right to defend itself."
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Mar 19, 2015 10:45
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Final tallies are in (including soldiers and diplomat votes). Likud back to 30, Joint Arab List down to 13, Meretz up to 5. Zehava Galon (Meretz) has announced that she will not be resigning due to the extra seat.
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Panzeh posted:I never accused MIGF of having two loyalties, I accused him of having one, and it's not to the US. I'll be honest the only reason my israel thread gimmick isn't maximum hitler is because that would be bannable.
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It's sad to think the best outcome for Palestinians is probably for Israel to just straight up invade and absorb their country, then after a few decades of full blown South Africa style apartheid for them to get equal rights and finally have a pluralistic state
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icantfindaname posted:It's sad to think the best outcome for Palestinians is probably for Israel to just straight up invade and absorb their country, then after a few decades of full blown South Africa style apartheid for them to get equal rights and finally have a pluralistic state invade? what country? Are you thinking of some different conflict? Are you posting from the year 1966?
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Mar 19, 2015 10:58
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Reading MIGF posts is the best way to end up wishing for Iran to have nukes, so as to be safe from the genocidal psychopaths like him.
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Mar 19, 2015 12:27
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i'm a loving spectacular jewess, a ripe plum ready to be picked and eaten (but not by a mortal man)
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Mar 19, 2015 12:35
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my nectar drips, my glossy skin is beaded with dew. hungry flies cluster around my stem
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i'm waiting. i'm always waiting
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Mar 19, 2015 12:38
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Avshalom posted:i'm waiting. i'm always waiting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ga_M5Zdn4
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Mar 19, 2015 12:51
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Avshalom has settled in this thread.
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Avshalom posted:i'm a loving spectacular jewess This isn't possible unless you have an Angela Davis-style afro.
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Kim Jong Il posted:This isn't possible unless you have an Angela Davis-style afro. i am pretty goddamn fluffy though
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Mar 19, 2015 13:30
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One thing bother me though Avshalom, you do know that 'Avshalom' is a masculine name right?
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i find it improves my erotic fiction gimmick if people legit don't know what gender i am, having a male name is all part of my unconventional charm
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and i didn't name myself after king david's sexy fuckwit son accidentally you know
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