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Well, that's the end of Pact. Lot more unanswered questions than Worm, but I'm not bothered. Any idea what Twig will be?
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 16:39 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 11:25 |
https://wildbow.wordpress.com/ sum up here.
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 17:08 |
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Now that was a much more satisfying than Worm's epilogue.
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 22:34 |
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Yeah, I really liked the epilogue. The story barely feels like its started, but the epilogue was mighty satisfying.y
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 00:17 |
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so, inevitable arguments about how much of blake is left inside of what is presumably blake? i'm going to say a hell of a lot actually, seeing as it's suggested he and evan went to wisconsin to put a flower on zoey artana's grave all in all, evan appears to be happy, so story has a good ending, 10/10
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 03:02 |
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Tollymain posted:so, inevitable arguments about how much of blake is left inside of what is presumably blake? Wait, the guy was supposed to be Blake? Who was the bigger bird? Green Eyes?
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 07:44 |
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no, the birds disappeared while the motorcycle guy was passing through wisconsin. the hosed-up bird with the stick in its plumage is blake, evan is the smaller sparrow, and green eyes was the girl by the water's edge. presumably without the Muggle Goggles blake looks a lot less like a real bird, much like green eyes isn't really wearing a sweater.
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 07:50 |
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Tollymain posted:no, the birds disappeared while the motorcycle guy was passing through wisconsin. the hosed-up bird with the stick in its plumage is blake, evan is the smaller sparrow, and green eyes was the girl by the water's edge. presumably without the Muggle Goggles blake looks a lot less like a real bird, much like green eyes isn't really wearing a sweater. Ah, I thought the girl turned into a bird for some reason.
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 07:58 |
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I thought the girl by the water was Rose, for some reason.
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 10:43 |
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'My brother getting married was really stressful' is some weak poo poo.
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 11:06 |
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yeah no gently caress off
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 11:10 |
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Velius posted:I'm not sure it makes sense for him to immediately start his next story. Pact ended up being a badly plotted mess in spite of starting with an interesting premise and character, probably because Wildbow was forced to make it all up as he went. Never got an impression that Pact ended up being a mess because of not enough worldbuilding. Rather than that, it suffered from pacing issues: near-constant fights and Blake rushing through the plot with the speed of the Millenium Falcon, jumping from a problem to an even larger problem and never having time to stop and explore the world or get some character development.
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 12:26 |
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Tollymain posted:all in all, evan appears to be happy, so story has a good ending, 10/10
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 13:18 |
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Neurosis posted:'My brother getting married was really stressful' is some weak poo poo. You've clearly never gotten roped into helping plan a wedding, that poo poo can be CRAZY stressful.
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 22:01 |
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Gantolandon posted:Never got an impression that Pact ended up being a mess because of not enough worldbuilding. Rather than that, it suffered from pacing issues: near-constant fights and Blake rushing through the plot with the speed of the Millenium Falcon, jumping from a problem to an even larger problem and never having time to stop and explore the world or get some character development. The pacing problems are what caused the worldbuilding problems, IMO. So many chapters went by in a wild rush of 'and then I killed X in an interesting way/fled' that there wasn't time to really find out what X was, what it could do, and why it could do it. The whole thing felt like it was the side-plot in someone else's story. Which... it really kind of was, given the implications of the Maggie Holt stories showing up in the Wormiverse.
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 00:05 |
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First chapter of Twig is up: https://twigserial.wordpress.com/
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 10:02 |
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This setting seems familiar.
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 10:17 |
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Tollymain posted:This setting seems familiar. Nuh uh
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 10:25 |
Twig 1.1Tollymain posted:This setting seems familiar. Although, it feels kinda familiar to me too, but then again, so did "guy goes home for a funeral" so I'm not judging. I was gonna say it would be interesting if this is from the PoV of the "bad" guys, because in my mind Wildbows characters are all firmly on the side of Good, then I considered Taylor and the Undersiders and now I'm confused. Taylor was always reasonably focused but the others, not so much. Should be fun to see where this goes! I can't help but wonder what the snake is gonna do now, that they've just left it there to fend for itself. Also this site is much prettier than Pact.
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 14:44 |
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Nettle Soup posted:Elaborate on why? Judging from the comments, Twig may have had it's start from the sample story Boil that Wildbow did before starting Pact.
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 14:57 |
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Yep, it certainly looks like the Boil world. I think it's a pretty solid start, too, I enjoyed it, and Boil was probably my favourite of the trial-run worlds. I hope that Wildbow has actually been working it in paralllel with Pact (albeit at a bit more of a relaxed pace) so that he might have a chance to build up a buffer against stressful life events. If there's anything I've learned from ten years or so of consumption of web serial stuff (mostly comics) it's that having some backup when life's going down the shitter is critical. I really wish he hadn't gone straight on into the next story without any break. I'd feel a lot more confident if he'd had some time to write the first arc or two.
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 19:34 |
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The first chapter is dated December 24, 2014, so I guess he's worked on it at least a little bit. I ended up skipping Pact since people seemed a bit disappointed by it, is it worth starting now? Seems like a good chance to build up a bit of a backlog for Twig.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 00:03 |
It's worth a go, it's not terrible, it's just not as good as Worm.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 00:05 |
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It's not nearly as good as Worm, but this might not be the most fair of things to hold it up against.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 01:47 |
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Pact is weird in that the world is arguably more interesting than a lot of the story. Half the problem with the story was it didn't spend enough time worldbuilding. I wouldn't mind at all if he revisited it with something a little more slow paced.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 02:12 |
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I really enjoyed reading whole arcs at a time and really didn't like reading it piecemeal.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 03:49 |
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Squinty posted:The first chapter is dated December 24, 2014, so I guess he's worked on it at least a little bit. It's not that Pact is bad, it's just that Worm was that good.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 09:55 |
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I feel that if Worm's first 10 arcs hadn't had so much world and character building, thanks to not having constant fights, it wouldn't have been as good. Hopefully Twig goes better!
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 23:36 |
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It seems to be off to a good start. There's no way the codenames are not meaningful. That said, the doctor specializes in the brain, so let's try interpret them in that context. Galatea seems obvious. Helen appears to have naturally suppressed emotional cues and the ability to fake them at least proficiently, if not superhumanly. She also appears to be able to remain inhumanly still in dangerous situations. Caterpillar indicates change, growth. Jamie appears to be the bookish sort. Maybe he's going to become really, really smart? Griffon. I don't know. Gordon seems to be a good fighter? Wyvern. Hm. Supposed to venomous. So far what we've seen of Sylvester indicates he's a schemer, and he might be adept at manipulating people. What do you think?
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:58 |
Just a bump to this to say 1.4 is up and it's really getting quite interesting. The statue, the bookworm, the knight and the dragon.
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# ? Mar 19, 2015 13:39 |
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Nettle Soup posted:Just a bump to this to say 1.4 is up and it's really getting quite interesting. Yeah, I think Wildbow might be getting better at his pacing issues. And the main character has admitted to not being good at fighting, so it might even stay that way!
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# ? Mar 19, 2015 13:43 |
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yeah, it looks like sy's talents lie in being the horrid little rear end in a top hat who knows exactly what to say. dealing with him when you're in the know sounds like a harrowing experience
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# ? Mar 19, 2015 13:58 |
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Tollymain posted:yeah, it looks like sy's talents lie in being the horrid little rear end in a top hat who knows exactly what to say. dealing with him when you're in the know sounds like a harrowing experience So, Tattletale? I can be happy with that. Can you imagine Worm with Tattletale as the main character? Entertaining as she is in the amount we were given, as a main character readers would have been rooting for the endbringers.
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# ? Mar 19, 2015 14:31 |
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probably slightly less broken
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# ? Mar 19, 2015 14:48 |
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A lot of people seemed to not like tattletale because they felt like she was cheating half the time. Sy just seems to be really good at being an rear end in a top hat for fun and profit.
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# ? Mar 19, 2015 15:29 |
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Pavlov posted:Sy just seems to be really good at being an rear end in a top hat for fun and profit. All hail Sy Thorburn.
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# ? Mar 19, 2015 15:32 |
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People hated Tattletale? I really disliked Taylor so this is strange to me.
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# ? Mar 20, 2015 11:54 |
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Neurosis posted:People hated Tattletale? I really disliked Taylor so this is strange to me. Her ability was a bit too Dues Ex Machina for my tastes.
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# ? Mar 20, 2015 13:27 |
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Dietrich posted:Her ability was a bit too Dues Ex Machina for my tastes. I get disliking the ability, because it felt like the inferences she drew weren't from observation but plucked from thin air. I thought people were referring to the character herself.
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# ? Mar 20, 2015 14:33 |
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Neurosis posted:I get disliking the ability, because it felt like the inferences she drew weren't from observation but plucked from thin air. I thought people were referring to the character herself. The ability and the personality of it's user are linked closer then they would be in other 'cape' series given the situation. I liked Tattletale, and I liked how she interacted with the Undersiders, but if you take a person with that ability and every encounter is basically what she did to Glory Girl and Panacea early on, I think she would rapidly become someone I want to see lose. Regardless of what she did, I never wanted to see Taylor lose, even when she played hardball.
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