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The Management posted:don't short a company when it's already low, the time to short was when it was at $80 and it was obvious it would all crumble I know that but it's at $10 now which just seems so overpriced
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qirex posted:want to short bbry but there's still a chance some other company will buy them for a stupid amount of money don't short - trade options much less risky and you can still profit from the mistakes and incompetence of others
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qirex posted:I know that but it's at $10 now which just seems so overpriced agreed, but it is also more volatile. a rumored buyout could shoot it up on any given day and combined with a short squeeze it could spike it up temporarily for serious pain for you. this is a better idea: Munkeymon posted:don't short - trade options but when they go private or taken over by Canada you'll lose your bet. and like I said before, I think the lenders are stripping blackberry for its assets. they will spin off a division holding patents, real estate, and whatever other things of value they have and give it to the lenders and then declare bankruptcy. I wouldn't put my money anywhere near that company.
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Not even corporatists like Harper or Wynne would advocate nationalization. There's just not enough jobs to be lost to risk alienating their neocon base.
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Mister Macys posted:Not even corporatists like Harper or Wynne would advocate nationalization. There's just not enough jobs to be lost to risk alienating their neocon base. sure, you say that now but what happens when the Canadian government / gouvernement Canadien has to switch to filthy American OS phones?
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Mar 18, 2015 22:00
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quote:8,000 units of the Classic and Passport were sold, which is far fewer than the 2 million to 3 million target that BlackBerry needs in the 2016 fiscal year you dont loving say
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Mar 18, 2015 22:29
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Mr. Apollo posted:http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/03/blackberry-sales-nowhere-close-morgan/ loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Mar 18, 2015 22:35
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The Management posted:sure, you say that now but what happens when the Canadian government / gouvernement Canadien has to switch to filthy American OS phones? probably a hefty contract to boeing or whatever other company makes GOVERNMENT GRADE phones for ridiculous prices
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Mar 18, 2015 22:36
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The Management posted:8,000 units? that's basically a rounding error. since they left it out i would normally immediately think "is that combined units or 8,000 each?" but simce they're talking about blackberrys i already knew the answer
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Mar 18, 2015 23:19
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and is that shipped or sold
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Mar 18, 2015 23:38
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Thanks Ants posted:and is that shipped or sold i don't think they even bother shipping phones these days unless they're ordered, retailers probably refuse to stock them
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Mar 19, 2015 00:12
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The Management posted:sure, you say that now but what happens when the Canadian government / gouvernement Canadien has to switch to filthy American OS phones? they'll finally catch up to their constituents?
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Mar 19, 2015 01:37
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Nintendo Kid posted:i don't think they even bother shipping phones these days unless they're ordered, retailers probably refuse to stock them Pretty much this. Every comment on the articles about the poor sales are "well how can they sell them when no carriers in town carry them? I had to order mine from BB".
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Mar 19, 2015 01:52
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also means the CEO can't use the "numbers shipped" amount either. 
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Mar 19, 2015 02:50
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the SecuTablet what loving idiot thought that was gonna be a good, inviting name for a piece of consumer electronics it sounds like a loving generic grocery store alka-seltzer knock off
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i mean gently caress at least get the portmanteau right and call it the securitablet or something jfc
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Santas Ainol Elf posted:i mean gently caress at least get the portmanteau right and call it the securitablet or something jfc BBRY Safetab. "It's safe, it's berry safe. So safe you wouldn't believe it." 
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Mar 19, 2015 20:50
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if you say "secutablet" really fast it sounds like "suckytablet"
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really secure things don't have cutesy names FunTab or iPad, they have serious, boring names that imply they are designed for serious business. one could even suggest that they are tools, not toys
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Mar 19, 2015 21:07
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thinkpad was already taken
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Mar 19, 2015 21:08
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The Management posted:really secure things don't have cutesy names FunTab or iPad, they have serious, boring names that imply they are designed for serious business. one could even suggest that they are tools, not toys agreed. certainly a company that rebranded from "Research In Motion" to "BlackBerry" is all about being super serious and their names are super serious
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Mar 19, 2015 21:11
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they probably can't afford to hire a proper branding agency to help them so they just wrote all their ideas on a whiteboard then crossed all the trademarked ones off until secutablet was all that was left
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qirex posted:they probably can't afford to hire a proper branding agency to help them so they just wrote all their ideas on a whiteboard then crossed all the trademarked ones off until secutablet was all that was left According to the book "From those Wonderful Folks that Gave You Pearl Harbor" by Jerry Della Femina, that's literally how big agencies came up with slogans... in the 50s.
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Mar 19, 2015 21:17
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arent they basically implying that all of their other products are insecure
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Mar 19, 2015 21:41
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Beeftweeter posted:arent they basically implying that all of their other products are insecure ah yes all those other products they sell to actual people like:
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Nintendo Kid posted:ah yes all those other products they sell to actual people like: well of course they're not selling dummy, they're not secure anymore all 28 of those playbook owners should have waited
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qirex posted:they probably can't afford to hire a proper branding agency to help them so they just wrote all their ideas on a whiteboard then crossed all the trademarked ones off until secutablet was all that was left it's this
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Jonny 290 posted:agreed. certainly a company that rebranded from "Research In Motion" to "BlackBerry" is all about being super serious and their names are super serious the truth is simple: they got tired of all the rimjob jokes
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Mar 20, 2015 00:13
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rim.jobs doesn't even resolve anymore 
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qirex posted:they probably can't afford to hire a proper branding agency to help them so they just wrote all their ideas on a whiteboard then crossed all the trademarked ones off until secutablet was all that was left They replaced all the signage on all of their buildings in Wateroo. Everything. Those big crane mounted, illuminated ones you put on the side of buildings. Parking signs, logos on office doors, etc. Just to have them all taken down a year later. Oh, did I mention they ow(ed) like 15 buildings?
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Mar 20, 2015 00:29
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qirex posted:rim.jobs doesn't even resolve anymore quote this if you checked before this was posted 
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Nintendo Kid posted:i don't think they even bother shipping phones these days unless they're ordered, retailers probably refuse to stock them i guess the next logical step will be 3d printing the chassis on demand because they havent got the cash to pay for tooling.
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Mar 20, 2015 00:58
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and dont worry we still have http://rim.com/jobs
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mishaq posted:quote this if you checked before this was posted I think it's been quite a while since that domain name resolved 
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minivanmegafun posted:I think it's been quite a while since that domain name resolved i wonder how long that was kept a secret from whatever hr/marketing director though "hmm, this new .jobs domain would be great to snap up to redirect to our careers site!" internally
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that or it was always a joke from the beginning, whoever is responsible for controlling all domain names in IT grabbed that one as a joke and it persisted for years without anyone high enough to notice/care
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mishaq posted:high enough to notice/care
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even before the domain came out my old roommate used to get notifications from his uni job board saying "great rim jobs available"
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I have the feeling it started out as a joke but became so popular due to being hilarious that they couldn't stop it
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mishaq posted:i wonder how long that was kept a secret from whatever hr/marketing director though "hmm, this new .jobs domain would be great to snap up to redirect to our careers site!" internally  
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