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I always thought it was weird that you never celebrated anyone's birthday in Persona 3 or 4.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:01
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Nakar posted:It'd be cool to have it come up in a conversation or something that's actually in the game, is the thing. There's plenty of fictional characters who reveal little details about themselves like their birthdays or whatever. Putting it in the manual or a booklet but nowhere else is just the most lazy way to fake character. Imagine somebody has "DISLIKES: Cats" in their manual profile and then at no point in the entire game do they encounter a cat or talk about cats (or worse, they do encounter cat-like enemies and don't react to this). Like okay great, he doesn't like cats, but is there a reason he doesn't like cats? Is it a pathological fear, a general revulsion, a righteous anger, a PTSD-laden trauma trigger? Is his reason really stupid and funny, and how would other characters react to that? WrightOfWay posted:I always thought it was weird that you never celebrated anyone's birthday in Persona 3 or 4. yeah that is a little odd. you could just do them as simple little events with maybe a chance to score some free s. link points.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:02
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The page worth of blood type, favorite food, measurements, likes/dislikes, catchphrase is more or less a Japanese trope. It doesn't have to mean anything in the game, it's just throwaway information. It probably got its origins from light novel supplementary material.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:09
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AngryRobotsInc posted:I've played at least one game where the main twist was somewhat spoiled by not listing a character's blood type in the manual, while every other character got one. I'm curious, what game was this? I'm guessing the twist was something like: That they were really a robot
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Mar 23, 2015 23:42
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The White Dragon posted:If I read a character's profile in an instruction booklet and it said he once paid (or habitually pays) a chick to poo poo in his mouth, he would always be in my party lmao you know what, same.
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Mar 23, 2015 23:57
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Codiekitty posted:I'm curious, what game was this? Mana Khemia. Close, but not quite. The main character turns out to be an artificially created Mana (nature spirit).
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Mar 24, 2015 00:42
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WrightOfWay posted:I always thought it was weird that you never celebrated anyone's birthday in Persona 3 or 4. How quickly we forget that, uh, Shu kid.
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Mar 24, 2015 06:28
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Strange Quark posted:How quickly we forget that, uh, Shu kid. ...is the cake okay? 
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Mar 24, 2015 06:30
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AngryRobotsInc posted:Mana Khemia.
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Mar 25, 2015 08:47
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I honestly expected Parasite Eve 2 or that lovely third one, given that (at least the first game) was all about MITOCHONDRIA or whatever. The artificial characters in 2 aren't really a secret and that game we don't really talk about barely has characters at all.
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Mar 25, 2015 13:43
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So, I guess I'm to the point where Xenogear's budget started to run out. Not to the second disc yet, but there's been a few noticeably cut corners. Like, instead of having a scene where Elly freaks out in the presence of a Gear in Shevat, somebody just tells me she had a strange reaction to a Gear stored there. Then when somebody says "Remember how Elly reacted to that gear in Shevat?" I was all "Uh, no?" Shakhan was an rear end in a top hat. First time lasted a while, but I wound up losing to that fire spell. Second attempt I bought some fire resistance items thinking they negated fire damage considering how bloody expensive they were, but they only kind of reduced it. I was halfway through this attempt when I remembered the Boosters, since it'd been so long since I'd had a battle where I needed them. Third time I swapped Billy out for Citan and his resistance spells, and finally beat him by the skin of my teeth. And each time, I had to watch that five minute cutscene before the fight. I also had a real  moment, when everyone started talking about reflecting Ft. Jasper's cannon off the mirror on Babel Tower. I was all "WTF is Fort Jasper?" because I'm pretty sure that structure hadn't been called that yet.There's a hell of a lot of convenient meetings and relationships in the game, but eh, I guess I've yet to see anything half as absurd as what goes on in Phoenix Wright.
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Mar 25, 2015 16:48
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Front Mission 3 is a fun game that pretty much opens with the main character becoming a traitor to Japan and joining up with the Americans, and I was kind of surprised how eager he was to do so. I don't usually get a side of compelling political drama out of my giant robot battles.
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Mar 25, 2015 16:54
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Codiekitty posted:So, I guess I'm to the point where Xenogear's budget started to run out. Not to the second disc yet, but there's been a few noticeably cut corners. Like, instead of having a scene where Elly freaks out in the presence of a Gear in Shevat, somebody just tells me she had a strange reaction to a Gear stored there. Then when somebody says "Remember how Elly reacted to that gear in Shevat?" I was all "Uh, no?"
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Mar 25, 2015 16:59
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Captain Walker posted:Front Mission 3 is a fun game that pretty much opens with the main character becoming a traitor to Japan and joining up with the Americans, and I was kind of surprised how eager he was to do so. I don't usually get a side of compelling political drama out of my giant robot battles. Kazuki doesn't have time to think about the consequences of his actions. That would stop him from making more ill-advised actions!
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Mar 25, 2015 17:00
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Codiekitty posted:I also had a real EDIT: Nate RFB posted:later on you can equip Speed Shoes on everyone so they're permanently boosted in their gears.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:00
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Captain Walker posted:Front Mission 3 is a fun game that pretty much opens with the main character becoming a traitor to Japan and joining up with the Americans, and I was kind of surprised how eager he was to do so. I don't usually get a side of compelling political drama out of my giant robot battles. FM3 is still my favorite in the series but probably because it's such a break from the other ones. Fake internet consumed so much of my time. And you can get a particle beam to vaporize dudes with. The Pilot system was awesome if only to stack eject punch on your dudes and pop enemy pilots out of their wanzers to steal them. I loved playing musical wanzers on long maps where my dudes were taking too much damage.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:04
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Front Mission 3 was one of those confusing "how did THIS make it oversees" because it's a third game in a franchise that's relatively connected plot-wise, they never brought the 2nd game out, and it's possibly the longest in content for a turn-based strategy game.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:10
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I should probably get back to FM3, but can't stand the "now we split your group into two teams" roadblock. Yay, you get to grind the sim with a bunch of worthless characters for money and skills. And then I split the teams and it turns out someone would have been more useful in the other squad.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:21
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Zereth posted:Doesn't that actually stack with Boost?
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Mar 25, 2015 17:25
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Nate RFB posted:It might be too late to do this now, but if you want to trivialize most Gear boss battles in the game slap an Ether Doubler on Elly along with any other equipment that boosts her Ether and destroy everything with the Aerods attack. Yep, equipping equipment on the human characters sometimes affects them in the gears as well. Or at least Ether and Speed does...later on you can equip Speed Shoes on everyone so they're permanently boosted in their gears. I may have missed the chance to get the Ether Doubler, unless it's still sold in Nisan. I thought it was a Gear Part, but I don't think I checked the character Accessories part of the shop.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:46
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I'm liking Wild Arms 2 a lot but goddamn the whole "discover towns and dungeons on the world map" mechanic is pretty stupid.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:51
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Codiekitty posted:I may have missed the chance to get the Ether Doubler, unless it's still sold in Nisan. I thought it was a Gear Part, but I don't think I checked the character Accessories part of the shop.
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Mar 25, 2015 17:55
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Tae posted:Front Mission 3 was one of those confusing "how did THIS make it oversees" because it's a third game in a franchise that's relatively connected plot-wise, they never brought the 2nd game out, and it's possibly the longest in content for a turn-based strategy game. It was actually the first FM game to get an English translation, we didn't get FM1 until the GBA port. Which just makes it weirder.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:02
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TARDISman posted:I'm liking Wild Arms 2 a lot but goddamn the whole "discover towns and dungeons on the world map" mechanic is pretty stupid. It is. Somehow they kept it around for most of the rest of the series
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Mar 25, 2015 18:05
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I just wish Bethesda would put down a bio for every single NPC and their blood type so when I accidentally kill someone I'll atleast know something about them.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:09
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ImpAtom posted:It is. Somehow they kept it around for most of the rest of the series Oh goddammit.  Do they at least bring back being able to buy healing items?
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Mar 25, 2015 18:15
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Codiekitty posted:I also had a real It's actually Fatima Jasper which makes more sense than Fort. That's arbitrary text limits for you. e: oh wait no, Fatima Jasper was completely different and it was Fort Jasper, a plot device they pulled out of their rear end late game.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:20
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SelenicMartian posted:I should probably get back to FM3, but can't stand the "now we split your group into two teams" roadblock. Yay, you get to grind the sim with a bunch of worthless characters for money and skills. And then I split the teams and it turns out someone would have been more useful in the other squad. Oh poo poo this is where I am now. Fuckin' Linny. Welp. Maybe I'll actually beat Eternal Punishment.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:21
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TARDISman posted:Oh goddammit. I just finished up Wild ARMS 3, and nope, you can't buy healing items until very late in the game just like in 2. It's not a big deal though because you can grow your own instead along with carrots and that is very abusable.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:33
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al-azad posted:It's actually Fatima Jasper which makes more sense than Fort. That's arbitrary text limits for you. Fort Jasper is what they renamed some dungeon you went through that happened to have a big cannon in it.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:41
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I just started the Geneforge series, the first game is very interesting so far. What impresses me the most is how reactive the world is. You join one of the sects and people's reactions towards you change nearly instantly. Even the flavor text changes accordingly. Meanwhile, in a modern AAA game like Skyrim you will still have members of the Thieves' Guild insult you to your face after you've become Guild Master. It's incredible how many big-budget games just can't get this right. Biggest downside: the interface is outdated and often clunky. The graphics are also poo poo by any but mid-nineties standards, and as much as that is almost a deliberate design decision, I still have to deduct points for it.
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Mar 25, 2015 18:51
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Phlegmish posted:I just started the Geneforge series, the first game is very interesting so far. What impresses me the most is how reactive the world is. You join one of the sects and people's reactions towards you change nearly instantly. Even the flavor text changes accordingly. Meanwhile, in a modern AAA game like Skyrim you will still have members of the Thieves' Guild insult you to your face after you've become Guild Master. It's incredible how many big-budget games just can't get this right.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:39
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al-azad posted:It's actually Fatima Jasper which makes more sense than Fort. That's arbitrary text limits for you. Yeah, the Fatima Jasper is the key to Fort Jasper. And originally it's hinted the Fatima Jasper is a broken pendant with Bart and Margie each holding half, then it turns out that was a decoy and the Jasper is something else entirely. I swear, the only way to keep track of all the characters, terminology, and events this game throws at you is to take notes and build a flowchart as you play. Although at this point, half the flowchart with be "That giant orb with all the TV screens showing Darth Vader making different faces said these things exist"
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Mar 25, 2015 19:47
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Zereth posted:You do realize the game is like 15 years old and had a rather small budget, right? So You are kinda looking at actual mid-nineties stuff. Geneforge 2 fixes some of the color choices so the interface is a lot less unpleasant to look at. 2001 specifically but Spiderweb Software is one guy pumping out massive RPGs for over 20 years so I can forgive the dated look.
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Mar 25, 2015 19:52
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al-azad posted:2001 specifically but Spiderweb Software is one guy pumping out massive RPGs for over 20 years so I can forgive the dated look. And yeah it's one guy, on a not very big budget since he wasn't on Steam (which didn't exist) back then so he wasn't pulling in relatively big money. Fancy graphics cost money.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:38
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Codiekitty posted:I swear, the only way to keep track of all the characters, terminology, and events this game throws at you is to take notes and build a flowchart as you play. Although at this point, half the flowchart with be "That giant orb with all the TV screens showing Darth Vader making different faces said these things exist" If you think THIS requires a flowchart, I wanna see your reaction after you keep playing for another five hours or so.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:58
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Ft. Jasper is actually a gun emplacement from that spaceship that crashes in the opening cinematic. One of the things I like about Xenogears is there are a lot of little details like that which don't actually matter but make the world seem richer.
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Mar 25, 2015 21:10
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Baby Babbeh posted:Ft. Jasper is actually a gun emplacement from that spaceship that crashes in the opening cinematic. One of the things I like about Xenogears is there are a lot of little details like that which don't actually matter but make the world seem richer. Yes, this. I came to reply to al-azad posted:e: oh wait no, Fatima Jasper was completely different and it was Fort Jasper, a plot device they pulled out of their rear end late game.
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Mar 25, 2015 23:31
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hubris.height posted:lmao I'm guessing Jansen from Lost Odyssey has done this at LEAST once.
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Mar 25, 2015 23:43
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TARDISman posted:Oh goddammit. To be honest, I never really wanted to buy healing items in any of the WA games. I'm pretty sure the reason for holding them back is thematic though. All healing items are plants (berries, etc), and since the world is turning into a desert plants are incredibly rare. Except for all the monsters carrying berries, of course.
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