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Berke Negri posted:No new ground abilities even, this just seems like a "uh slap fifteen more points to this spec and we'll unveil a new line of ships to sell it with" If this allows you to entirely specialise in space, that sounds ok. Still a loving huge investment though.
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You have one full spec and one half spec, basically. So pilot/intel is different than intel/pilot
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The problem is what Berke mentioned, where both Intel and Command were fairly evenly split between ground and space abilities, but Pilot isn't. So if you're in your space boat, it's objectively and outright superior to either of those. Presumably Commando will be the same way for ground It's not a big deal honestly, but the fact Cryptic is effectively obsoleting specializations people ground their asses off to get is a good demonstration of how they are completely oblivious to the metagame implications of their changes.
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Also they assume pilot was super popular is because it was just really well designed and not because the only other option was a bunch of ground abilities and well "gently caress ground". I'm really hoping they just add pilot slots to some of the existing ships. It'd be a good chance to buff some of the shittier ships already out there. The wording of the announcement seems like they might be going that route but everything they've done since Geko took over would indicate that another $120 bundle of crap ships is in the works instead. As always just ignoring the new spec remains a valid option.
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Boff seating Tactical Science Engineering Flexible (replaces Universal) Specialist There, done. Go back and apply to the T5 ships, change T5U to T6 with an upgrade path or something and apply. BOFF seating problem solved.
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Asimo posted:The problem is what Berke mentioned, where both Intel and Command were fairly evenly split between ground and space abilities, but Pilot isn't. So if you're in your space boat, it's objectively and outright superior to either of those. Presumably Commando will be the same way for ground I'd been assuming that what they were doing with primary specs was putting into place actual "roles" that the playerbase seems to want so bad (intel as 'sneaky' flanking dps role, commander as tanking/group buff role, maybe a spec for healing, a spec for x, etc.) with secondary specs eventually providing more variance in the builds you want. But nope, just slapping fifteen points on to pilot just kind of makes it seem they don't really have any plans. It'll be funny if they make commando into a full on spec too, because what are they supposed to sell along with that? If it is a ground only spec not like they can sell ships with that.
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Oh wow, they think pilot is super popular when the real answer has been "the only actually useful choice" all along.
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Berke Negri posted:It'll be funny if they make commando into a full on spec too, because what are they supposed to sell along with that? If it is a ground only spec not like they can sell ships with that.
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Berke Negri posted:It'll be funny if they make commando into a full on spec too, because what are they supposed to sell along with that? If it is a ground only spec not like they can sell ships with that. I asked about that, funnily enough. (12:56:00 PM) FuturePastNow: Well it looks like pilot boffs only have space abilities, right? There aren't any pilot ground abilities? (12:56:17 PM) Borticus: That's accurate. Pilot is Space-Only. (12:56:26 PM) FuturePastNow: So if Commando got upgraded to a complete spec, it would have only ground boff abilities and kits (12:56:52 PM) Borticus: But one of the primary reasons for us to make a primary spec, is for the Boff Seat, as it helps us make new ship variants which drive monetization. (12:57:13 PM) Borticus: So there's minimal $$ payoff in a Ground-Only boff. (12:57:30 PM) Borticus: And since our manhours are limited, that's a tough sell. So not likely.
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FuturePastNow posted:I asked about that, funnily enough. What's reddit like?
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I watched a video of one of the new space STFs "The Gates of Grethor." Other than how painful it was to watch this guy, I was left with a couple impressions. It actually looks half-way interesting with some semi-intelligent gameplay needed by players. Therefore it will probably be crazy to pug it. Also, there are multiple time-oriented optionals for different phases of the fight. Without a good dps team, the higher difficulty versions are probably a sure-lose situation if they maintain hard failure options on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42PYJtn6VOo For fun, here's a group of people that are supposed to have decent dps barely winning on elite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uanPSZle7yo
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BombermanX posted:What's reddit like? A big group where everyone must subscribe to the majority view. Injecting reason or unpopular views usually results in being mass downvoted. You are then punished by reddit and not allowed to post. A large negative score means you must be a bad person. As I was recently reminded, debating on reddit is usually an unwise thing to do... "Redditors" has since taken on a negative connotation as being a idiot who subscribes to quips, agrees with the majority and generally doesn't have a brain to think for themselves.
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Jethro_E7 posted:A big group where everyone must subscribe to the majority view. Injecting reason or unpopular views usually results in being mass downvoted. You are then punished by reddit and not allowed to post. A large negative score means you must be a bad person. But what does FuturePastNow think of reddit?
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Mar 26, 2015 05:52
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I dunno, Butts. I'd rather talk about STO.
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Mar 26, 2015 06:03
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Read the pilot BoFF thing. Hah. Did they publicly beg people to buy their new upcoming $50 triple ship pack that only works with pilot stuff? 
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Mar 26, 2015 06:51
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Oh don't worry it won't be 50 bucks it'll be 60. These are t6 ships so you gotta pay more.
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The hilarious thing is they did a big tribble patch to introduce and test the new boffs and powers... and there's no ships to test them with.
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Didn't that fleet that does a bunch of datamining say we have a T6 Galaxy coming up? If that's a pilot ship I'm gonna laugh my arse off.
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MikeJF posted:Didn't that fleet that does a bunch of datamining say we have a T6 Galaxy coming up? Yup. Which is probably why Cryptic felt the need to announce piloting before it was ready.
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MikeJF posted:Didn't that fleet that does a bunch of datamining say we have a T6 Galaxy coming up? Not least of which because the skills are basically made for a T6 Defiant.
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Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, what with there being a T6 Voyager and a T6 Ent-D coming. It makes sense from a marketing point of view to have a Voyager, Defiant and Enterprise-D front and centre. Intel seats on the Voyager, Pilot seats on the Defiant, Command seats on the Enterprise-D.
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If it makes sense then don't expect it to happen. Remember who is left running the show.
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Game is dying but we've still got incoming leaks, enjoy for the five of you still playing.
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Korgan posted:Game is dying but we've still got incoming leaks, enjoy for the five of you still playing. Oh wow, Cryptic. A Tier 6 Scimitar pack?
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pubbies gonna love the t6 scimis and they are already doing iconian poo poo in a lockbox? unbelievable
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I may need to come back for the Dyson Sphere minipet, so I can join the chorus making Death Star jokes.
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Yeah these promos and lockboxes sure are raining thick and fast in 2015 hey? I wonder if they have a bunch already created they want to cash in with before someone (say, CBS) yanks out the ethernet cord.
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DancingShade posted:Yeah these promos and lockboxes sure are raining thick and fast in 2015 hey? I forgot to add part of the update in, if you think the cash grab was blatant before, recheck the page now. 
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Korgan posted:I forgot to add part of the update in, if you think the cash grab was blatant before, recheck the page now. Holy poo poo ahahaha. I don't even have good words for this. They must just be chucking it all at a wall hoping someone buys part of it before walking out the door and flicking off the lights.
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Korgan posted:I forgot to add part of the update in, if you think the cash grab was blatant before, recheck the page now. Godfuckingdam that tops the T6 bugship in terms of cashgrab fuckery.
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People seemed to have trouble understanding this thread so to help I gave a detailed explanation at the top of page six. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1409071
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hakimashou posted:People seemed to have trouble understanding this thread so to help I gave a detailed explanation at the top of page six. That's one of the best replies I've read on the forums.
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Korgan posted:Game is dying but we've still got incoming leaks, enjoy for the five of you still playing.  just old yeller this loving game already
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New episode is up. http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9110623 More of this weekly BS.
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Is there a costume unlock with that set?
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Tunicate posted:New episode is up. Granted the best option would be to go back to the old featured episode thing of a new mission per week, but that ain't gonna happen.  Korgan posted:I forgot to add part of the update in, if you think the cash grab was blatant before, recheck the page now. I'm not even surprised at this point.
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Asimo posted:
Looking at it honestly just made me sad. The sound of the bottom of the barrel being desperately scraped.
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Why is the only part I enjoy in this dying game the cow clicking one.
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