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I'm looking forward to all the GOP clown car riders having to answer questions about this despicable new law in Indiana.
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So apparently George H.W. Bush's Secretary of State is too liberal for Jeb Bush and the modern GOP:quote:Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) said it was a mistake for one of his foreign policy advisers to go speak at the left-leaning Israel policy group J Street. The adviser, James Baker, criticized Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on seeming to change his position on a two-state solution. Bonus quote: Bill Kristol posted:Thankfully, James Baker doesn't speak for today's Republican Party.
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quote:J Street, a group that basically has anti-Israeli sentiments heh
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Has Hillary spoken out against the "busing Arabs in droves" poo poo Netanyahu pulled?
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Omi-Polari posted:I think one article that should scare Democrats is this one. The title sounds like it's something a Republican booster would write, but he's a liberal writer, so. Millennials shifting to the right wouldn't really be a surprise at all, they have been pretty hosed over even as the economy booms, not to mention massive disillusionment over Obama. If I had to guess the religious component of the right is going to start becoming much less influential again, leading to a much greater libertarian influence that plays very well with young people.
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DaveWoo posted:Walker can certainly try to make that argument. But I suspect that "Scott Walker drove his state into debt" is going to resonate a lot better with pretty much everyone outside the extreme GOP base. I brought up the Wisconsin deficit and was told that they are just refinancing their debt. So it'll Be rationalized.
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DaveWoo posted:So apparently George H.W. Bush's Secretary of State is too liberal for Jeb Bush and the modern GOP:  How the gently caress, seriously? James Baker is too liberal for the right? Armyman25 posted:I brought up the Wisconsin deficit and was told that they are just refinancing their debt. So it'll That's what I told the bank, but then they took away my house.
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tsa posted:Millennials shifting to the right wouldn't really be a surprise at all, they have been pretty hosed over even as the economy booms, not to mention massive disillusionment over Obama. If I had to guess the religious component of the right is going to start becoming much less influential again, leading to a much greater libertarian influence that plays very well with young people. It's hard to accept but young people are just as stupid as old people, only about different things due to cultural changes. There have always been, and will always be, reactionary shitlords. Thinking you can wait for them to just die off is not a viable plan.
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Mar 26, 2015 19:15
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Wheeee posted:It's hard to accept but young people are just as stupid as old people, only about different things due to cultural changes. Basically this. The conservatism of millennials is stuff like redpill, MRA, and gamergate. Eventually the GOP will figure this out and start pandering to them. I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to that or not.
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Wheeee posted:It's hard to accept but young people are just as stupid as old people, only about different things due to cultural changes. Just as stupid, but vote way less. Young people will age in to older Democrats and Republicans at the same rate they usually do. The libertarian thing will disillusion them just as fast as Obama has. Republicans have offered them nothing, and sometimes actively dicked them over like when they blew up Warren's student loans bill. Their reaction to being let down by Democrats will be disengagement from the political process, not converting to Republican/Libertarian.
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I still think the Millennial generation will lean liberal/Democratic overall, mainly because they grew up during the presidencies of Clinton (relative peace and prosperity), George W Bush (failed wars, economic crash), and Obama (economic recovery, no stupid wars).Dr. Tough posted:Basically this. The conservatism of millennials is stuff like redpill, MRA, and gamergate. Eventually the GOP will figure this out and start pandering to them. I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to that or not. Yeah, but it's pretty clear that those particular groups are in the minority, as shown by the strong reaction against them.
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Dr. Tough posted:Basically this. The conservatism of millennials is stuff like redpill, MRA, and gamergate. Eventually the GOP will figure this out and start pandering to them. I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to that or not. The narrative is moving though. 10 Years ago you wouldn't get the sort of mainstream coverage of feminist causes that we've seen in the past few years. Gamersgate got a lot of negative coverage, and we've seen it in other areas - like street harassment. Obviously these aren't won battles or anything, but the discussions that are happening in mainstream outlets weren't happening before. Overtime, social issues in America have almost always moved left (there's some oscillation, but the general trend is left). What is certainly true of millennial is that there are still plenty of FYGM middleclass and better white dudes in that group. That they identify as libertarians as opposed to republicans is relevant only insofar as it dictates that the GOP recognize them if they don't want depressed voter turn out. The right is eventually going to lose on gay rights, women's rights, and minority rights. They didn't manage to keep keep the vote away from those groups, and eventually that's going to catch up.
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How liberal/conservative the current crop of youngins is seems to be a matter of some debate, but the take I'm most prepared to believe is that white millennials lean slightly right at a rate similar to older generations, while non-white millennials are left-leaning. The difference being that whites are a smaller share of the population than they have been previously.
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paranoid randroid posted:How liberal/conservative the current crop of youngins is seems to be a matter of some debate, but the take I'm most prepared to believe is that white millennials lean slightly right at a rate similar to older generations, while non-white millennials are left-leaning. The difference being that whites are a smaller share of the population than they have been previously. Yeah, we've already seen stuff about how white millennials have similar attitudes toward race as their parents, and how white millennials voted like 52% for Romney in 2012.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Yeah, we've already seen stuff about how white millennials have similar attitudes toward race as their parents, and how white millennials voted like 52% for Romney in 2012. Well he did have that young fellow as his running mate, so they had someone to identify with.
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Sir Tonk posted:Well he did have that young fellow as his running mate, so they had someone to identify with.  This ain't your father's GOP, dude.
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One of the two defining differences between Millennials and Gen-Xers is how non-white Millennials are (the other is growing up with the Internet), and that's the reason they're destined to be more left-leaning. White Millennials can do whatever they want politically, but they'll have less power than in any previous generation.
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Dr. Tough posted:Basically this. The conservatism of millennials is stuff like redpill, MRA, and gamergate. Eventually the GOP will figure this out and start pandering to them. I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to that or not.  ) GTA San Andreas Hot Coffee scandal, we could see some serious poo poo from that group.That feminazi is gonna use net neutrality to take away our Skyrim nude mods! SpiderHyphenMan fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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I got a couple problems with that National Journal piece. First, the author seems to be using two or three data points as indicative of a long term trend and I'm not sure why we are supposed to assume that the current trend is going to bear out any more so than the predictions about Democrat Ascendancy in 2006-2008 did. Second, this sentence quote:If Republicans are smart, they will nominate for president someone in the mold of George W. Bush in 2000. is like saying, in 1964, "if the Republicans are smart they will nominate someone in the mold of Nelson Rockefeller." It's true, but also simply not going to happen. The current thrust of the party is not towards Bush 2000-style conciliatory "centrism".
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Bob James posted:
Its been 4 years and I still don't understand why this happened
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Bob James posted:
You've heard the expression, "let's get busy"? Well this is a VP candidate who gets "biz-zay!" Consistently and thoroughly.
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It's a different world, GTA now has prostitutes sucking your dick in first person mode in glorious 1080p and no one notable has said a single thing.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Considering that Hillary was the driving force behind the Family Entertainment Protection Act in the wake of the (maybe They aren't going to do poo poo because it would require more effort than trolling on Twitter. They can't even make a stupid NO U rebuttal video series without someone running off with all the money. Intel&Sebastian posted:It's a different world, GTA now has prostitutes sucking your dick in first person mode in glorious 1080p and no one notable has said a single thing. Man remember when the 2d GTA games were banned from video rental places because you could read some text suggesting that a woman was having sex offscreen? Those were the days. paranoid randroid fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 19:49
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Somewhat OT but where/when did those ridiculous Paul Ryan photos appear? They are amazing.
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Joementum posted:He's still using his email list to push shady crap... That brings to mind, what are the legal consequences for raising money with a campaign's email list through advertising, rather than donations from the people you send the email to?
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Foo posted:Somewhat OT but where/when did those ridiculous Paul Ryan photos appear? They are amazing. Of Ryan? He did some dumb photo op in 2012 of him lifting weights.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Of Ryan? He did some dumb photo op in 2012 of him lifting weights. And someone thought it was a good idea to have him dressed as an extra from Saved by the Bell.
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paranoid randroid posted:They aren't going to do poo poo because it would require more effort than trolling on Twitter. They can't even make a stupid NO U rebuttal video series without someone running off with all the money. Was this the series with the two dudes, one of whom had a bunch of skulls all over the loving place? Ninja edit: Looks like a yes. Nth Doctor fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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paranoid randroid posted:They aren't going to do poo poo because it would require more effort than trolling on Twitter. They can't even make a stupid NO U rebuttal video series without someone running off with all the money.
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DaveWoo posted:So apparently George H.W. Bush's Secretary of State is too liberal for Jeb Bush and the modern GOP: This is just more evidence that the GOP is going to try to make Israel a partisan issue in 2016 and beyond. It's not going to work with Clinton because she will hang right there with them in unwavering support for anything the Bibi government wants to do. Hell Bibi could say that he wants to establish concentration camps for the Palestinians in order to relocate them and Clinton is going to agree. The Israel issue is going to be a race to the bottom in this election.
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Nth Doctor posted:Was this the series with the two dudes, one of whom had a bunch of skulls all over the loving place? IIRC they were also working with the Darius guy who wrote that "scandianvian women are too economically comfortable to gently caress" thing. Real bunch of winners, totally the guys you want representing your movement.
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radical meme posted:This is just more evidence that the GOP is going to try to make Israel a partisan issue in 2016 and beyond. It's not going to work with Clinton because she will hang right there with them in unwavering support for anything the Bibi government wants to do. Hell Bibi could say that he wants to establish concentration camps for the Palestinians in order to relocate them and Clinton is going to agree. The Israel issue is going to be a race to the bottom in this election.
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FilthyImp posted:^^^  Sorry for the quality, it's a massive file otherwise. Lancelot fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 20:06
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I wonder what Netanyahu could get away with the week before the election. Is there a limit?
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Lancelot posted:
Then the phone rings and Ron picks up the handset.
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SedanChair posted:Then the phone rings and Ron picks up the handset.
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 He really is not photogenic Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 20:32
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:
Flunkmaster Flex
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Please someone tell me that this person is wrong about everything past the first sentence. Hillary-Israel relations are more complicated than they say. While Hillary publicly supported many of Israel's actions in Defensive Shield in 2014, evidence, including her own memoir, suggest that she does not believe Netanyahu or Likud are the best choices to bring about peace. quote:Israel’s election Tuesday could have an outsize impact on U.S. politics, but for Hillary Clinton, it’s difficult to know what outcome she might prefer. http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-and-benjamin-netanyahu-its-complicated Given the history between Hillary and Netanyahu, I certainly wouldn't expect warm words if they are both leaders of their respective countries come 2017. Whether that would translate into action, I don't know.
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