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If you play on a map with only a single spawn door you deserve to be camped. My favorite is when people whine about spawn camping on maps with a ton of exits, like doomsday. If you're only going to only use 1 out of 4 exits I'm going to just shoot rockets into it all day.
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Harvest is the best spawn camp map bar none.
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Mar 27, 2015 15:39
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mabels big day posted:Harvest is the best spawn camp map bar none. Unless you're on a pub server in which case the engineer building right outside of spawn will actually contribute something for once.
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Mar 27, 2015 16:32
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Fojar38 posted:Unless you're on a pub server in which case the engineer building right outside of spawn will actually contribute something for once. Specifically, they contribute points to the demoman on the roof.
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Mar 27, 2015 16:37
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mabels big day posted:Harvest is the best spawn camp map bar none. harvest might be the map where it's most powerful, but the map in which it happens most is definitely nucleus. there are no other maps where you will join up and realize both sides are camping each other's spawns, and no one has capped yet.
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Mar 27, 2015 21:38
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"Spawn camping" on Nucleus is a silly concept. (1) The main spawn door is like two steps from a position where you can shoot at the point. It's impossible to play the map well without shooting people next to that door. The map is so small and compact that it's part of defending the point. (2) The other exits are really well spread out. If someone's shooting the main spawn door, use a different door. They can't prevent you from leaving spawn. It's both nearly impossible to not spawn camp on Nucleus (if you define spawn camping as "shooting at people near their spawn") and nearly impossible to actually spawn camp on Nucleus (if you define spawn camping as "defending the spawn exit so that nobody can leave spawn without dying"). Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 21:50
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Zero! posted:That would be carpet's defeating foes in battle, at 2:10 awesome. Thank you very much
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Mar 27, 2015 22:19
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Nucleus is an arena map that shouldn't be played seriously on KOTH because it's a pin-sized control point over a deathpit accessible only by narrow walkways and exposed to snipers from every direction. That's fine and all for an arena CP, not so much for KOTH.
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Mar 28, 2015 10:50
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Sanctum posted:Nucleus is an arena map that shouldn't be played seriously on KOTH because it's a pin-sized control point over a deathpit accessible only by narrow walkways and exposed to snipers from every direction. That's fine and all for an arena CP, not so much for KOTH. Nucleus has some spacing issues with the spawns but the design of the point is actually pretty great 
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Mar 28, 2015 14:47
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Gabriel Pope posted:Nucleus has some spacing issues with the spawns but the design of the point is actually pretty great I'd put more clutter around the sniper lanes surrounding it and you shouldn't be able to build stuff anywhere stickies can't stick, so either the slats become stickiable or they become nobuild zones. Otherwise I like it a lot
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Mar 28, 2015 15:06
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So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQJbA9ZuL0
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Mar 28, 2015 16:12
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CoolCab posted:I'd put more clutter around the sniper lanes surrounding it and you shouldn't be able to build stuff anywhere stickies can't stick, so either the slats become stickiable or they become nobuild zones. Otherwise I like it a lot I don't think the sniper lanes are so bad by themselves, the issue is that they're right outside of spawn. If the spawn rooms were pushed back a bit it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
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Mar 28, 2015 16:21
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The Kins posted:So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. I liked that a lot more than End of the Line, probably because this wasn't hyped to hell and back and I had no expectations whatsoever.
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Mar 28, 2015 16:38
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Spawn camping happens on Harvest and Nucleus every game without fail because it's so easy to get to the enemy spawn. Harvest especially, Demomen can get there from their spawn in one second.
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Mar 28, 2015 17:53
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The Kins posted:So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. God drat, that was good.
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Mar 28, 2015 19:41
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I've been crashing pretty regularly since the last update. Any one else getting this?
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Mar 28, 2015 19:55
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Jippa posted:I've been crashing pretty regularly since the last update. Any one else getting this? Only since 2007. 
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Mar 28, 2015 19:57
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Awesome. I wonder how many hours of work went into this. I'm guessing "a lot".
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Mar 28, 2015 20:34
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xzzy posted:Only since 2007. I didn't used to have many problems with it.
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Mar 28, 2015 20:43
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Han Nehi posted:Awesome. I wonder how many hours of work went into this. I'm guessing "a lot".
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Mar 28, 2015 20:54
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I've crashed 5 times this evening.
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Mar 28, 2015 21:17
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I've had that happen on specific servers, could that be the issue? Overall TF2 runs very stable for me.
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Mar 28, 2015 21:20
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Barnblitz seems to make me crash while other maps are fine. I don't get it either.
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Mar 28, 2015 21:24
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I'm using Chris' configs so take this with the necessary amount of salt but I've been doing great once I get past the initial ten minutes of stuttering. I can go to Advanced options without the game hanging and repeating the last played sound all the while.
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Mar 28, 2015 21:28
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Imagine if you put drywall all over a heavily modified wooden platform and then left in in the rain for 11 years and then kept putting hats on top of the rickety soggy platform all the while. That's why TF2 is crashing
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Mar 28, 2015 21:31
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Spawn camping happens on all koth maps as there is nothing for the winning team to do.
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Mar 28, 2015 21:58
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oddium posted:Imagine if you put drywall all over a heavily modified wooden platform and then left in in the rain for 11 years and then kept putting hats on top of the rickety soggy platform all the while. That's why TF2 is crashing when your choices are that or nothing, you end appreciating the wet drywall a lot more
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Mar 28, 2015 21:58
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This may come as a shock to all of you but the stock grenade launcher is pretty good.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:16
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The Kins posted:So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. This was really slick and full of personality, I loved it.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:43
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I've mentioned before that I tend to frequent an Australian server despite being all the way in the UK, and this is pretty much why. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqRRZAsMvC4 Also, the Spy stepping out of that crate with an unusual on his head was my favourite part of that SFM. I don't know why it cracked me up as much as it did.
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Mar 29, 2015 00:54
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The Kins posted:So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. This is getting a lot of love, but it isn't getting enough love, because it deserves all the love. Much better than EotL. The characters were better realized. The action was easier to follow and just plain better. Ignoring that all the lines are canned is easier than ignoring that the characters never even grunt or laugh. This is the first video I've seen that realizes the potential that the comics are realizing since the original TF2 "Meet the" videos. Thanks for posting.
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I'm just wondering what map Valve cancelled because of that movie.
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Mar 29, 2015 02:35
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The Kins posted:So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. That had so much more personality than End of the Line. This is really great. xzzy posted:I'm just wondering what map Valve cancelled because of that movie. It was called Snowplow.
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Mar 29, 2015 03:38
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The Kins posted:So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. Holy poo poo.
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Mar 29, 2015 04:39
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I just ran into one of the most pathetic TF2 players I have ever seen. He was an aimbotting heavy with the brass beast in Ghost Town. Yeah that's right, an aimbotter in MvM. During the big spy wave he was getting pushed along by the tank and shooting it, while also shooting straight backward at any spies that came into his line of sight. Surprisingly (or not) his damage was really bad throughout the wave and the other heavy outscored him. Maybe that one had a better hack or something.
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The Kins posted:So, um, the SFM folk are at it again. 21 minutes of high quality dead game fights in 60fps. This owns, seconding the "much better than EoTL" sentiment. I also like how they went with the "a little slow and unsubtle, but incredibly brutal" personality for the Soldier instead of the 'literally retarded' Flanderized version we've gotten lately in the comics.
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Mar 29, 2015 06:47
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That 20+ minute long SFM is entertaining pretty much the whole way through and has some good characterization using limited voice lines. Well animated too. Bring on the TF2 feature length movie.
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Mar 29, 2015 06:48
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Nucleus is garbage because it violates a principle you can observe in most good TF2 maps which is that somebody should be able to slam W with minimal adjustment and make it to the point. Instead, you step out of spawn and there's a wall directly in front of you. Now you turn and hold W and you run in a circle for 20 minutes while nobody touches the point. The one person who figures out they can actually move toward the point gets punished because it's the loving point on Nucleus. Good TF2 maps lead to teamwork at or near the objectives almost entirely by accident. Nucleus does everything in its power to persuade you to do something else.
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Mar 29, 2015 07:24
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Incidently, this makes Nucleus one of the best arena maps.
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That and it's also Flank and Get Flanked: The Map. Honestly, in my opinion, the only redeeming factor of Nucleus is that if you look at the point head-on from on top of that little window overhang with the medkit inside, it looks like a big one-eyed robot.
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