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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Serious question. Why do people need to know their heart rate and all this poo poo all of a sudden Same reason I want a 3000m water resistant dive watch to wear while I'm banging away at the keyboard in my cube.
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To be a real success, the Watch needs to have a killer app that isn't just for fitness buffs. Of the percentage of the general population that works out regularly, an even smaller percentage actually use fitness trackers, and even less of them care enough about heart rate monitoring to make this an instant sale. There has to be something else that you can do with the Watch that you can't do with anything else that makes it desirable for the general population. The iPod had the scrollwheel and music management, iPhone had a browser and fullscreen apps, iPad bridged the gap between laptop and couch surfing, the Watch has....I dunno. I would have liked to see more of that drawing interface for communicating between two people, I think that is unique. Would be fun to draw stuff for my wife as a sweet gesture or send elaborate dick drawings to friends. Not sure if it's strong enough though.
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smoobles posted:Anyone else considering getting one just for the heart rate monitor? I've been through three Bluetooth HR chest straps in a year. They always seem to work great until they spontaneously die for no reason (they steadily have like 2.5 - 3 stars on Amazon for that reason) They do make wrist heart rate monitors already, for $150 or so. They seem to work well. For instance: http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/12/fuse-depth-review.html Another $100 bucks gets you GPS, like this TomTom one: http://www.tomtom.com/en_us/sports/running/products/runner-cardio-gps-watch/white-red/ Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Serious question. Why do people need to know their heart rate and all this poo poo all of a sudden People love graphs. This is another data point to put on a graph.
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Santas Ainol Elf posted:To be a real success, the Watch needs to have a killer app that isn't just for fitness buffs. Of the percentage of the general population that works out regularly, an even smaller percentage actually use fitness trackers, and even less of them care enough about heart rate monitoring to make this an instant sale. I don't think it needs a killer app. As with all new tech, early adopters and first movers are what help define the product need. The iPhone didn't tip into ubiquity until the 4S. Same with the iPad. It didn't shoot up until the mini was released. There will always be reasons for the general public to avoid a new product but once it is one or two generations in, initial problems are worked out, apps have matured, and 3rd party ecosystems have sprung up. The biggest draw for me is having quick access to notifications and fitness tracking. I count steps. I generally don't take my phone out in public (nyc) so being able to quickly see what email headline I got or who I got a text from is very compelling to me. I think the same is true for other early adopters. Probably not the general public.
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Santas Ainol Elf posted:There has to be something else that you can do with the Watch that you can't do with anything else that makes it desirable for the general population. Easy: status symbol... You can show it off at all times since it's not sitting in your pocket like your (i)phone. That's what will make it successful.
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Super Dude posted:I can't get over the fact that it's a fanny pack with a tighter fit. I'll stick with my arm band, it doesn't bother me. On the website they have all their models wearing it over their shirts to show off the product. I wear mine under my shirt and it's honestly like I'm wearing nothing at all. If I'm not jumping into the shower immediately after I finish running for whatever reason then I'll almost always completely forget I'm wearing it, until I eventually do head to the shower and suddenly go "oh poo poo!".
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Local newspaper has an article (behind paywall, dont have access) titled "Sales of Apple watch banned in Switzerland " Google fails me, anyone heard this ? If it's true I'm buying a fake switch watch, a seiko and an apple watch, because this is some petty bullshit right there.
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Apr 2, 2015 22:41
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Biodome posted:April fools. Nah, it's from the 2nd, not Aprils fool day. Plus it's not even remotely funny. Oh wait, this is from the same idiots whose joke yesterday was a new Tintin comic called "alert in Fukushima " illustrated with a bright yellow guy on the cover.
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Santas Ainol Elf posted:What is the app going to tell you about your pace that you wouldn't already know from your actual physical feedback (i.e. how tired you are or how out of breath you are)? For me, it's all about giving an accurate estimate on how effective my exercising is (ie. how many calories I'm burning). The more information gathered, the more accurate results. For example, my 5S tracks steps, but it doesn't track elevation. If were to climb up 20 flights of stairs, or a very steep hill, I'm going to burn significantly more calories. For all my 5S knows, I just had a leisurely quarter mile stroll in park. With the apple watch monitoring heart rate, it's going to be a lot more accurate. I'm not some marathon runner or anything, I've just been working on losing weight. I'm far, far from a fitness expert but technology like this helps a dummy like me understand how effective my efforts are and what changes I need to make to stay on track. Do I need to walk/run faster? How much of a difference does it make if I walk up the hill vs around it? I do have a fitbit that monitors elevation but it's so small I keep losing the drat thing. It's also useless for anything but running and walking, where as it seems the watch can track more things like cycling, and rowing, etc. It really seems like it's going to be the best fitness tracker available, along with being a pretty cool watch. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Unlike other fitness trackers which just report metrics to phones/computers, the watch is a programmable computer. Who knows what devs are going to come up with in the near future.
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I feel like a Garmin would suit some of you so much better than an Apple Watch. Especially if you aren't going to bring a phone with you.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:I feel like a Garmin would suit some of you so much better than an Apple Watch. Especially if you aren't going to bring a phone with you. Their new gps watch even has bluetooth built in for notifications. And it's actually waterproof. Makes way more sense for those wanting to use it as an active watch.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:I feel like a Garmin would suit some of you so much better than an Apple Watch. Especially if you aren't going to bring a phone with you. The problem is the Garmin doesn't suit anything.
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KingEup posted:The problem is the Garmin doesn't suit anything. Pretty sick UI too 
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monkeu posted:Pretty sick UI too err... you need to wear a chest strap.
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Apr 3, 2015 04:05
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I spent a good 15-minutes looking over all the Pebble, Garmin, Nike watches at Bestbuy and it makes perfect sense why Apple made a watch.
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This is why the Apple Watch sells for the price it sells at http://www.wired.com/2015/04/the-apple-watch/
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Yeah? That seems mostly focused on the software to be honest, and trying to justify why the watch exists at all.
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smackfu posted:Yeah? That seems mostly focused on the software to be honest, and trying to justify why the watch exists at all. I liked the part where they started working on it just because, and trusted they'd find reasons why it would be useful to anyone during the process. Also the part where they thought making presses of different pressures do different things, like hiding app-specific idiosyncratic settings behind an undiscoverable gesture like "press harder." It's like the old Android menu button but worse; try pressing on every screen to see what settings are hiding there, no not a normal press, a HARD press! Also that the font is blocky with rounded edges ~just like the watch~ lol. Though I actually genuinely like the part where they say they focused on making your interactions with the watch only 5-10 seconds, because it shouldn't just be a small-screened iPhone strapped to your wrist like so many people seem to think. You shouldn't be scrolling through your twitter feed on your tiny watch when your phone is in your pocket. sourdough fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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RVProfootballer posted:I liked the part where they started working on it just because, and trusted they'd find reasons why it would be useful to anyone during the process. Also the part where they thought making presses of different pressures do different things, like hiding app-specific idiosyncratic settings behind an undiscoverable gesture like "press harder." It's like the old Android menu button but worse; try pressing on every screen to see what settings are hiding there, no not a normal press, a HARD press! Also that the font is blocky with rounded edges ~just like the watch~ lol. I guarantee you a lot of the first round of apps will end up being like this though.
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You shouldn't be typing emails or browsing the Internet on your phone when your laptop is in your bag. Technology gets smaller and more integrated, and if it's done well then tweets and small pictures ala Instagram will be fine to scroll through on a watch or other interface like glasses, etc. You see a small snippet on your watch, then flip over to your phone to read the full article, reply, etc. Just watch Her to see how seamless it could be. Microcommunications don't require a 1080p, 5.5" screen to consume. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 3, 2015 |
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Bottom Liner posted:You shouldn't be typing emails or browsing the Internet on your phone when your laptop is in your bag. The more accurate comparison would be writing novels on your phone vs laptop, IMO, and I would tell you to use your laptop. Writing emails and browsing the internet is more convenient on your phone than your laptop, since you can be standing somewhere, holding it in your hand. Reading twitter or Instagram is not more convenient on the watch than your phone, as you'll not only be using one hand to navigate, but also holding your other arm/wrist in a specific way. Sort of like using 1.5 hands to browse the watch vs 1 hand for the phone. Then there's the 2" or whatever display vs 4-5". On Instagram, you'll see the photo but no comments, I bet, then fit 2-3 comments on watch screen vs 6-7 or however many on your phone. Same general thing with twitter. Much more scrolling, much less information presented at once. If reading twitter on your wrist is the big draw, I just think you're going to be disappointed  I just see, literally, no advantage to doing something like reading twitter on a watch vs a phone. It'd be one thing if you could replace the phone with the watch, and then you could argue that the twitter/Instagram is good enough for the savings in convenience of carrying just the watch, but you'll need the phone to be able to use the watch anyway.
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I respond to, and author new, work emails from my phone while sitting in front of my computer all the time. This is a common behavior with business types.
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Jealous Cow posted:I respond to, and author new, work emails from my phone while sitting in front of my computer all the time. This is a common behavior with business types. Handoffs and Airdrop have really changed my workflow. I often start a task on my phone and then send it to my computer, or vice-versa. Airdropping a link from Tweetbot to Safari on my Mac in particular is awesome. I love convergence. Meanwhile, Apple released Guided Tour videos for Apple Watch: http://www.apple.com/watch/guided-tours/ I wish I could shake the feeling that it is a product in search of a problem. I can see definite flashes of potential, but it just doesn't feel like it has the cohesive sense of purpose that the original iPhone did. I hope I was just more of an unbridled optimist back in 2007.
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Kobayashi posted:I wish I could shake the feeling that it is a product in search of a problem. I can see definite flashes of potential, but it just doesn't feel like it has the cohesive sense of purpose that the original iPhone did. I hope I was just more of an unbridled optimist back in 2007. quote:Apple decided to make a watch and only then set out to discover what it might be good for (besides, you know, displaying the time). “There was a sense that technology was going to move onto the body,” says Alan Dye, who runs Apple’s human interface group. “We felt like the natural place, the place that had historical relevance and significance, was the wrist.” There's the official word from the fluff piece.
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zen death robot posted:Smart Watches are a fad, and a bad one. People are going to realize that trying to hold your arm really still while you try to scroll on it with your finger and read some extremely tiny screen is pretty much useless. The speakerphone on your wrist is a loving travesty as well.
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zen death robot posted:Smart Watches are a fad, and a bad one. People are going to realize that trying to hold your arm really still while you try to scroll on it with your finger and read some extremely tiny screen is pretty much useless. The speakerphone on your wrist is a loving travesty as well. This isn't the purpose of the device.
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Tab8715 posted:This isn't the purpose of the device. Bottom Liner posted:You shouldn't be typing emails or browsing the Internet on your phone when your laptop is in your bag.
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zen death robot posted:Tim was really happy about the speakerphone feature during the keynote. http://www.wired.com/2015/04/the-apple-watch/ quote:Along the way, the Apple team landed upon the Watch’s raison d’ętre. It came down to this: Your phone is ruining your life. Like the rest of us, Ive, Lynch, Dye, and everyone at Apple are subject to the tyranny of the buzz—the constant checking, the long list of nagging notifications. “We’re so connected, kind of ever-presently, with technology now,” Lynch says. “People are carrying their phones with them and looking at the screen so much.” They’ve glared down their noses at those who bury themselves in their phones at the dinner table and then absentmindedly thrust hands into their own pockets at every ding or buzz. “People want that level of engagement,” Lynch says. “But how do we provide it in a way that’s a little more human, a little more in the moment when you’re with somebody?” Basically anyone who's complaining that the Apple Watch won't be able to completely replace their phones is completely missing the point. It's meant to complement our phones, and give us a way to still remain connected without shutting out the outside world to the extent that so many people so often do with their smart phones these days. Plus it's an awesome fitness tracker.
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zen death robot posted:Thanks for posting the entire text to that really long ad though
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zen death robot posted:Most ads are a lot shorter
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Whirlwind Jones posted:lol if you think that's "really long". Browsing on your watch or something? 
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Sick burns on Friday night in the IYG Apple Watch thread.
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quote:Along the way, the Apple team landed upon the Watch’s raison d’ętre. It came down to this: Your phone is ruining your life. Apple finally admits that the iPhone ruins lives. 
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I won't be buying an Apple Watch, but I freely admit that if this was just the same product with the same features but in a mostly unobtrusive set of eyewear, I would be making GBS threads myself right now. Honestly I feel like Apple Glasses would be the "holy poo poo" moment with more crazy possibilities for apps. GPS overlay, reminders, heartrate if you're into that, basically a HUD for your life. Jobs would have given us super future glasses. 
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bloodysabbath posted:I won't be buying an Apple Watch, but I freely admit that if this was just the same product with the same features but in a mostly unobtrusive set of eyewear, I would be making GBS threads myself right now. I like you. We should have a beer sometime.
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smoobles posted:Anyone else considering getting one just for the heart rate monitor? I've been through three Bluetooth HR chest straps in a year. They always seem to work great until they spontaneously die for no reason (they steadily have like 2.5 - 3 stars on Amazon for that reason) Yeah, just the fact that strapless heartrate monitors all seem to be in the $200 range is probably part of how I'd justify the purchase to myself if I decide to go for it. The truth will be I have a gadget-sized hole in my heart but whatever.
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bloodysabbath posted:I won't be buying an Apple Watch, but I freely admit that if this was just the same product with the same features but in a mostly unobtrusive set of eyewear, I would be making GBS threads myself right now. I'd be totally okay with Apple replacing my Retina with some UXHD^9999999 Device.
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Tab8715 posted:I'd be totally okay with Apple replacing my Retina with some UXHD^9999999 Device. Apple EyePhone: What Could Be More Retina Than YOUR Retina! Retail price: One (1) Eyeball.
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