hopeandjoy posted:

This is provably partly because the Metroid games aren't very popular in Japan and Japanese companies tend to prefer to pander to their domestic bases than their international ones. In fact, Other M was made as an attempt to create a Metroid game that would appeal to Japanese players.

It sold like poo poo there too.

Leal posted:

I'm sure it was Nintendo's attempt to get a good business relationship going with Team Ninja for the future Nintendo spinoff of the Xtreme Beach Volleyball series.

Cyron posted:

my team will be caption falcon and wario.

Random 2channers posted:

*It’s a movie game. And the people keep talking and talking and talking, which doesn’t quite fit a Metroid game.

*Sakamoto went crazy.

*I feel that no one ever asked for or wanted a human drama from a Metroid game.

*I didn’t think it was a bad game. But it definitely gave Samus a way different image than any of the others. Until now she always came across as a silent, cool-headed, lone soldier, like Master Chief. But in Other M it feels like she’s portrayed as “regular woman Samus”.

*I sensed something FF13 about it

*Why won’t they ever make a NORMAL 2D Metroid?

*To borrow a recent phrase from Nintendo, it was a bunch of unrelatable monologue. It comes out of nowhere, never ends, and the monologue itself doesn’t really have much to do with the player’s experience, which makes it feel like, “Well, that’s not MY problem.” As a result, it all just feels like more of a chore than anything.

*This is a good example of a creator raping its own work.

*It’s the only Metroid I’ve 100% cleared. I had fun.

Leal posted:

I'm sure it was Nintendo's attempt to get a good business relationship going with Team Ninja for the future Nintendo spinoff of the Xtreme Beach Volleyball series.

achillesforever6 posted:

I noticed that Angry Joe got on my yahoo news feed, apparently he isn't doing videos on Nintendo stuff anymore?

Benny the Snake posted:

Oh hey, I'm curious about armor now. Was I right about my previous assumption how it's meant to be bulky as hell or are there any real-world applications to form-fitting armor? Independent to the Zero Suit of course.

Tarquinn posted:

Yup, seems so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz09W2Z6OOU

TBH, nobody should do Ninty videos anymore.

Cyron posted:

Wiiu is the best console atm and it sucks nintendo is shity on youtube.

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

On Youtube? More like lovely everywhere. Aside from what's already been said, they've been going against speedrunners using glitches, TAS runners, basically anyone playing their games in a manner they don't approve of. They've been taking down videos on Nico like crazy, and been trying to leverage more power to take stuff down.

They're a pretty lovely company all round.

Mokinokaro posted:

A lot of it depends on the material, but completely form-fitting armor seems like a really bad idea from a physics perspective (if its too close to your skin, the force of an impact can do a good amount of harm even if the projectile doesn't break through.) Tight-fitting armor is also actually going to be very difficult to move in if it provides any decent protection.

Bulky armor has its own caveats of course, like mobility. If you're armoured up like a walking tank you're going to move like one. The most used armors are stuff like kevlar vests since they're a middle ground between the extremes, offering decent protection while allowing a good range of movement.

IronicDongz posted:

I'd like to say that the amount that armor people actually use/used in real life affects mobility is very, very exaggerated by films and video games, but I'm mostly familiar with antique stuff like plate armor(you can look up youtube videos of people running at a full sprint, doing somersaults etc. in plate) which I don't think is what you're talking about.

Arcsquad12 posted:

I looked up Samus's wikipedia entry and immediately regretted it. For a character touted as one of the better portrayals of women in video games, more words are dedicated to talking about her tits and two dozen top ten "sexy" characters lists than her actual game portrayals.

DStecks posted:

IIRC Medieval full plate weighed less than a modern soldier's standard kit, at least somewhat because modern soldiers carry a ton of supplies and ammunition (and anybody rich enough to wear full plate had servants for that).

Tae posted:

There is a whole white list program thingie that basically involves a poo poo ton of paperwork when the end result is Nintendo getting some percentage of revenue regardless. That's why most sites stopped doing it on youtube and link to their twitch stream for the VODs at this point.

Jack Gladney posted:

You can't be sex-positive about media like movies or tv because the people in them aren't real.

NutritiousSnack posted:

sexy women are bad portrayals of women, especially when it was gaming magazines and a joke G4 miniseries that are the only real source of that sexualzation, as opposed to the games.

NutritiousSnack posted:

sexy women are bad portrayals of women, especially when it was gaming magazines and a joke G4 miniseries that are the only real source of that sexualzation, as opposed to the games.

Arcsquad12 posted:

I wouldn't say having sexy characters is a bad thing, technically, but rating a character's quality based on fan art and porn of said character is misrepresentation at its worst.

DStecks posted:

hmm yes Samus has never been sexualized by the games, especially not the first one that rewards skillful completion with a look at her bikini-clad body

NutritiousSnack posted:

Outside of Other M, this series had been completely free of that bullshit

IronicDongz posted:

Regardless if armor is made to be worn by human beings, generally speaking it is not going to make them unable to move quickly because that would be stupid and probably get them killed.

NutritiousSnack posted:

Deviant Art has literally made everything in the world sexist then. All you can do is judge the author's work, from your perspective, not how others reacted to it. Outside of Other M, this series had been completely free of that bullshit and it's far from a highly thought of or influencal game.


It was meant as 8 bit joke, complete reminder that Samus totally was a woman.

IronicDongz posted:

Mokinokaro posted:

The big exception I was really discussing was stuff like bomb blast suits (and I suppose bear/dog armor as they follow similar principles) that are quite cumbersome and harder to move in because they're designed around taking a heavy impact over fast movement. They're basically an extreme version of full-body hockey goalie pads.

Though, looking at the newer models of bear suit, they don't seem that awkward anymore:



(Hell, I could see a fairly realistic Samus "zero suit" design taking cues from that.)

EDIT: I can see SOME justification for Samus having some sort of extra protection layer under her bigger (more combersome) power armor in case the latter fails but the zero suit is just silly fanservice especially with those dumb heels they added to it in Smash Brothers.

NutritiousSnack posted:

I'm not seeing what you trying to show here. She's drawn to be "attractive" or whatever, but her tits aren't flopping about or isn't wearing something ridiculous. There is a semi detailed portrayal of her rear end, which isn't even really in frame. This isn't loving Neuptuina or objectionable unless you are looking back on this from the mindframe of Other M, which might have killed the franchise.

NutritiousSnack posted:

I'm not seeing what you trying to show here. She's drawn to be "attractive" or whatever, but her tits aren't flopping about or isn't wearing something ridiculous. There is a semi detailed portrayal of her rear end, which isn't even really in frame. This isn't loving Neuptuina or objectionable unless you are looking back on this from the mindframe of Other M, which might have killed the franchise.

IronicDongz posted:

There's no reason for her to be wearing a skintight suit which shows off her rear end in the first place. If they really wanted to go for a "you lose the powersuit" segment, which I maintain was unfun and a bad idea, there's no need to have it be some skimpy blue latex thing.

By the way-real clothes do not like, hug the buttcrack like that!

NutritiousSnack posted:

I'm not seeing what you trying to show here. She's drawn to be "attractive" or whatever, but her tits aren't flopping about or isn't wearing something ridiculous. There is a semi detailed portrayal of her rear end, which isn't even really in frame. This isn't loving Neuptuina or objectionable unless you are looking back on this from the mindframe of Other M, which might have killed the franchise.

NutritiousSnack posted:

Okay, gently caress off with this nonsense and historical reworking of a whole branch of feminist thought. You have no idea what you are talking about here, no idea what the Porn Wars in the 80's where about, or what is going on now. I guess pretty much every feminist defending women who enjoy stupid poo poo like 50 Shades of Grey or Twilight or whatever loving fantasy women have in media catered to them don't exist or aren't "real" feminists. There hasn't been men and women engaging in cross critical analysis of on how it's internalized misogyny or sexual empowerment.

IronicDongz posted:

But that's still heavy armor-and if you're talking about a 'Zero Suit' which is heavy armor, why even have one? Why not just have samus in her powersuit all the time? Works fine for most of her games.

Jack Gladney posted:

You can always tell the experts in the history of ideas by the way they loop instantly into talking about pornography the minute feminism comes up. Also by how their interest in feminism remains particular to children's toys. I'm pretty sure discussion of pornography has involved the beliefs and behaviors of real people over fictional ones, even in those faraway 1980s.