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hopeandjoy posted:This is provably partly because the Metroid games aren't very popular in Japan and Japanese companies tend to prefer to pander to their domestic bases than their international ones. In fact, Other M was made as an attempt to create a Metroid game that would appeal to Japanese players. Oh hey, I'm curious about armor now. Was I right about my previous assumption how it's meant to be bulky as hell or are there any real-world applications to form-fitting armor? Independent to the Zero Suit of course. Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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I'm sure it was Nintendo's attempt to get a good business relationship going with Team Ninja for the future Nintendo spinoff of the Xtreme Beach Volleyball series.
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Leal posted:I'm sure it was Nintendo's attempt to get a good business relationship going with Team Ninja for the future Nintendo spinoff of the Xtreme Beach Volleyball series. my team will be caption falcon and wario.
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Cyron posted:my team will be caption falcon and wario. Instantly, that Borat swimsuit comes to mind.
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# ? Apr 4, 2015 18:44 |
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The Japanese reaction wasn't nearly as virulent as Western/American was, but it was bad:Random 2channers posted:*It’s a movie game. And the people keep talking and talking and talking, which doesn’t quite fit a Metroid game.
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Leal posted:I'm sure it was Nintendo's attempt to get a good business relationship going with Team Ninja for the future Nintendo spinoff of the Xtreme Beach Volleyball series. If anything they wanted their own Ninja Gaiden... only with Metroid for some reason
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# ? Apr 4, 2015 19:07 |
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I looked up Samus's wikipedia entry and immediately regretted it. For a character touted as one of the better portrayals of women in video games, more words are dedicated to talking about her tits and two dozen top ten "sexy" characters lists than her actual game portrayals.
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# ? Apr 4, 2015 19:39 |
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I noticed that Angry Joe got on my yahoo news feed, apparently he isn't doing videos on Nintendo stuff anymore?
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achillesforever6 posted:I noticed that Angry Joe got on my yahoo news feed, apparently he isn't doing videos on Nintendo stuff anymore? Yup, seems so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz09W2Z6OOU TBH, nobody should do Ninty videos anymore.
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Benny the Snake posted:Oh hey, I'm curious about armor now. Was I right about my previous assumption how it's meant to be bulky as hell or are there any real-world applications to form-fitting armor? Independent to the Zero Suit of course. A lot of it depends on the material, but completely form-fitting armor seems like a really bad idea from a physics perspective (if its too close to your skin, the force of an impact can do a good amount of harm even if the projectile doesn't break through.) Tight-fitting armor is also actually going to be very difficult to move in if it provides any decent protection. Bulky armor has its own caveats of course, like mobility. If you're armoured up like a walking tank you're going to move like one. The most used armors are stuff like kevlar vests since they're a middle ground between the extremes, offering decent protection while allowing a good range of movement.
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# ? Apr 4, 2015 20:28 |
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Is Nintendo a really DMCA-happy company? I don't keep up with videogame news as much as I used to but it really wouldn't suprise me. Oh and thanks for the info, Mokinokaro
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Tarquinn posted:Yup, seems so. Wiiu is the best console atm and it sucks nintendo is shity on youtube.
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# ? Apr 4, 2015 20:43 |
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There is a whole white list program thingie that basically involves a poo poo ton of paperwork when the end result is Nintendo getting some percentage of revenue regardless. That's why most sites stopped doing it on youtube and link to their twitch stream for the VODs at this point.
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Cyron posted:Wiiu is the best console atm and it sucks nintendo is shity on youtube. On Youtube? More like lovely everywhere. Aside from what's already been said, they've been going against speedrunners using glitches, TAS runners, basically anyone playing their games in a manner they don't approve of. They've been taking down videos on Nico like crazy, and been trying to leverage more power to take stuff down. They're a pretty lovely company all round.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:On Youtube? More like lovely everywhere. Aside from what's already been said, they've been going against speedrunners using glitches, TAS runners, basically anyone playing their games in a manner they don't approve of. They've been taking down videos on Nico like crazy, and been trying to leverage more power to take stuff down. and yet there still the best company that make consoles. you can take this as fanboy defending or a sad world fact. Cyron fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Mokinokaro posted:A lot of it depends on the material, but completely form-fitting armor seems like a really bad idea from a physics perspective (if its too close to your skin, the force of an impact can do a good amount of harm even if the projectile doesn't break through.) Tight-fitting armor is also actually going to be very difficult to move in if it provides any decent protection. It's worth saying that in any sort of bulky metal armor, there is a lot of room(often largely filled by padding, like a gambeson). The idea of needing to wear tight clothes under armor doesn't really gel at all with how armor, as a thing, works
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IronicDongz posted:I'd like to say that the amount that armor people actually use/used in real life affects mobility is very, very exaggerated by films and video games, but I'm mostly familiar with antique stuff like plate armor(you can look up youtube videos of people running at a full sprint, doing somersaults etc. in plate) which I don't think is what you're talking about. IIRC Medieval full plate weighed less than a modern soldier's standard kit, at least somewhat because modern soldiers carry a ton of supplies and ammunition (and anybody rich enough to wear full plate had servants for that).
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Arcsquad12 posted:I looked up Samus's wikipedia entry and immediately regretted it. For a character touted as one of the better portrayals of women in video games, more words are dedicated to talking about her tits and two dozen top ten "sexy" characters lists than her actual game portrayals. sexy women are bad portrayals of women, especially when it was gaming magazines and a joke G4 miniseries that are the only real source of that sexualzation, as opposed to the games.
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DStecks posted:IIRC Medieval full plate weighed less than a modern soldier's standard kit, at least somewhat because modern soldiers carry a ton of supplies and ammunition (and anybody rich enough to wear full plate had servants for that). Plate armor definitely wasn't something that rich people only could afford after a while, though, it got less and less expensive over time. Although many armies moved to half-plate for economic reasons later anyhow.
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Tae posted:There is a whole white list program thingie that basically involves a poo poo ton of paperwork when the end result is Nintendo getting some percentage of revenue regardless. That's why most sites stopped doing it on youtube and link to their twitch stream for the VODs at this point. I think the combination of copyright takedowns and the improved illusion of intimacy offered by streams will probably result in the Internet critic of the near future running their show as a stream instead of a preproduced video.
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Jack Gladney posted:You can't be sex-positive about media like movies or tv because the people in them aren't real. Okay, gently caress off with this nonsense and historical reworking of a whole branch of feminist thought. You have no idea what you are talking about here, no idea what the Porn Wars in the 80's where about, or what is going on now. I guess pretty much every feminist defending women who enjoy stupid poo poo like 50 Shades of Grey or Twilight or whatever loving fantasy women have in media catered to them don't exist or aren't "real" feminists. There hasn't been men and women engaging in cross critical analysis of on how it's internalized misogyny or sexual empowerment.
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In other news, Dan Olsen is a really loving lovely critic. Dear god, that End of Evangelion review is the weirdest poo poo I've ever seen and wonder if anyone who saw the movie actually liked it.
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NutritiousSnack posted:sexy women are bad portrayals of women, especially when it was gaming magazines and a joke G4 miniseries that are the only real source of that sexualzation, as opposed to the games. hmm yes Samus has never been sexualized by the games, especially not the first one that rewards skillful completion with a look at her bikini-clad body
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NutritiousSnack posted:sexy women are bad portrayals of women, especially when it was gaming magazines and a joke G4 miniseries that are the only real source of that sexualzation, as opposed to the games. I wouldn't say having sexy characters is a bad thing, technically, but rating a character's quality based on fan art and porn of said character is misrepresentation at its worst.
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Arcsquad12 posted:I wouldn't say having sexy characters is a bad thing, technically, but rating a character's quality based on fan art and porn of said character is misrepresentation at its worst. Deviant Art has literally made everything in the world sexist then. All you can do is judge the author's work, from your perspective, not how others reacted to it. Outside of Other M, this series had been completely free of that bullshit and it's far from a highly thought of or influencal game. DStecks posted:hmm yes Samus has never been sexualized by the games, especially not the first one that rewards skillful completion with a look at her bikini-clad body It was meant as 8 bit joke, complete reminder that Samus totally was a woman.
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NutritiousSnack posted:Outside of Other M, this series had been completely free of that bullshit I also would call the 8-bit bikini more unintentionally goofy than an intentional joke.
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IronicDongz posted:Regardless if armor is made to be worn by human beings, generally speaking it is not going to make them unable to move quickly because that would be stupid and probably get them killed. The big exception I was really discussing was stuff like bomb blast suits (and I suppose bear/dog armor as they follow similar principles) that are quite cumbersome and harder to move in because they're designed around taking a heavy impact over fast movement. They're basically an extreme version of full-body hockey goalie pads. Though, looking at the newer models of bear suit, they don't seem that awkward anymore: (Hell, I could see a fairly realistic Samus "zero suit" design taking cues from that.) EDIT: I can see SOME justification for Samus having some sort of extra protection layer under her bigger (more combersome) power armor in case the latter fails but the zero suit is just silly fanservice especially with those dumb heels they added to it in Smash Brothers. Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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But that's still heavy armor-and if you're talking about a 'Zero Suit' which is heavy armor, why even have one? Why not just have samus in her powersuit all the time? Works fine for most of her games. The reason I jump to plate armor is mostly because of how the large protruding angular bit on the varia suit's chest reminds me of the convex ridge running down the middle of plate breastplates, to redirect blows away from vital organs. But it's probably just like that to look imposing.
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NutritiousSnack posted:Deviant Art has literally made everything in the world sexist then. All you can do is judge the author's work, from your perspective, not how others reacted to it. Outside of Other M, this series had been completely free of that bullshit and it's far from a highly thought of or influencal game. I don't like this new low-fat HBG.
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I'm not seeing what you trying to show here. She's drawn to be "attractive" or whatever, but her tits aren't flopping about or isn't wearing something ridiculous. There is a semi detailed portrayal of her rear end, which isn't even really in frame. This isn't loving Neuptuina or objectionable unless you are looking back on this from the mindframe of Other M, which might have killed the franchise.
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There's no reason for her to be wearing a skintight suit which shows off her rear end in the first place. If they really wanted to go for a "you lose the powersuit" segment, which I maintain was unfun and a bad idea, there's no need to have it be some skimpy blue latex thing. By the way-real clothes do not like, hug the buttcrack like that!
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Mokinokaro posted:The big exception I was really discussing was stuff like bomb blast suits (and I suppose bear/dog armor as they follow similar principles) that are quite cumbersome and harder to move in because they're designed around taking a heavy impact over fast movement. They're basically an extreme version of full-body hockey goalie pads. Other M added heels n the zero suit. and the one in smash had rocket boosters, the other M heels are jut there for show so it a tiny bit better. so yes even bad designs in other games with samus can be rooted back to other M. gently caress that game.
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NutritiousSnack posted:I'm not seeing what you trying to show here. She's drawn to be "attractive" or whatever, but her tits aren't flopping about or isn't wearing something ridiculous. There is a semi detailed portrayal of her rear end, which isn't even really in frame. This isn't loving Neuptuina or objectionable unless you are looking back on this from the mindframe of Other M, which might have killed the franchise. The Zero Suit is basically Zero Body Paint and she's got the sexy hiptilt pose thing going on. This does not communicate "strong" or "just been through some poo poo," it communicates, "look how sexy my rear end is." I don't even know what the hell you mean by her rear end not being in frame; it's laid out to be one of the focal points of the image according to rule of thirds. Hell, the whole composition of the art is basically guiding the eye straight to the butt.
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NutritiousSnack posted:I'm not seeing what you trying to show here. She's drawn to be "attractive" or whatever, but her tits aren't flopping about or isn't wearing something ridiculous. There is a semi detailed portrayal of her rear end, which isn't even really in frame. This isn't loving Neuptuina or objectionable unless you are looking back on this from the mindframe of Other M, which might have killed the franchise. Semi-detailed? If that thing was flesh-toned, you would think she was just wearing a G-string.
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IronicDongz posted:There's no reason for her to be wearing a skintight suit which shows off her rear end in the first place. If they really wanted to go for a "you lose the powersuit" segment, which I maintain was unfun and a bad idea, there's no need to have it be some skimpy blue latex thing. you need to get out more to the bars in any big city.
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NutritiousSnack posted:I'm not seeing what you trying to show here. She's drawn to be "attractive" or whatever, but her tits aren't flopping about or isn't wearing something ridiculous. There is a semi detailed portrayal of her rear end, which isn't even really in frame. This isn't loving Neuptuina or objectionable unless you are looking back on this from the mindframe of Other M, which might have killed the franchise. Troll or Moron?
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NutritiousSnack posted:Okay, gently caress off with this nonsense and historical reworking of a whole branch of feminist thought. You have no idea what you are talking about here, no idea what the Porn Wars in the 80's where about, or what is going on now. I guess pretty much every feminist defending women who enjoy stupid poo poo like 50 Shades of Grey or Twilight or whatever loving fantasy women have in media catered to them don't exist or aren't "real" feminists. There hasn't been men and women engaging in cross critical analysis of on how it's internalized misogyny or sexual empowerment. You can always tell the experts in the history of ideas by the way they loop instantly into talking about pornography the minute feminism comes up. Also by how their interest in feminism remains particular to children's toys. I'm pretty sure discussion of pornography has involved the beliefs and behaviors of real people over fictional ones, even in those faraway 1980s.
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IronicDongz posted:But that's still heavy armor-and if you're talking about a 'Zero Suit' which is heavy armor, why even have one? Why not just have samus in her powersuit all the time? Works fine for most of her games. Well, I meant more if they want to have sections where you lose the armor powerups you could use something styled closer to that rather than the fanservice suit. It makes far more sense for Samus to be wearing something like that (sans helmet when in the armor) underneath than the zero suit.
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Jack Gladney posted:You can always tell the experts in the history of ideas by the way they loop instantly into talking about pornography the minute feminism comes up. Also by how their interest in feminism remains particular to children's toys. I'm pretty sure discussion of pornography has involved the beliefs and behaviors of real people over fictional ones, even in those faraway 1980s. what do you feel about sex? since this thread seem to hate on anything thst seem sexy.
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zero suit samus is a bad character design her rocket boots own though
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