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Rojo_Sombrero posted:Cards I would like to see reprinted Channel, Ashnods Altar, Fireball, Disintegrate, and Lightning Bolt. And not for the Channelball effect but Channel + Emrakul. Or maybe that's just broken. Nah, turn 2 Emrakul is fine.
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They're not about to reprint anything into Standard that's banned in Legacy for being too powerful.
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Apr 5, 2015 01:59
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Nothing to see here, misread the post.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:02
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Attorney at Funk posted:I mostly think the Eldrazi creature cards are really stupid. I don't think Annihilator is all of that but by god it doesn't help. gently caress off. It That Betrays is A++ and I won't hear otherwise.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:04
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Entropic posted:They're not about to reprint anything into Standard that's banned in Legacy for being too powerful. But it will be fun. But I guess Wizards hates fun.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:05
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Toshimo posted:gently caress off. It That Betrays is A++ and I won't hear otherwise. My buddy uses it that betrays in commander all the time. I had to crop rotation for a homeward path to beat him. Yes I play that lovely land because of people being shitheads.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:07
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Toshimo posted:gently caress off. It That Betrays is A++ and I won't hear otherwise. I'll admit that a ridiculous giant creature that steals your permanents is way cooler than a ridiculous giant creature that just blows them up.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:09
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It That Betrays is the coolest of the Eldrazi, has way more style than the other ones Well I do sort of like Artisan of Kozilek as well Errant Gin Monks posted:My buddy uses it that betrays in commander all the time. I had to crop rotation for a homeward path to beat him. Yes I play that lovely land because of people being shitheads.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:12
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Spiderdrake posted:Well I do sort of like Artisan of Kozilek as well Homeward Path is the ~most Sheldon card~. It's hot garbage, but they printed it because people kept getting the feelbads when someone control magic'ed their commander.
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Apr 5, 2015 02:23
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Homeward Path is an effect that's nice to have in the game somewhere but the implementation is dumb. There's very little tension or opportunity cost beyond having one more colorless land in your EDH deck. That's what makes it a dumb card in my mind, not the idea of a way to get back stolen permanents.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:09
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Entropic posted:I'll be surprised if we don't get enemy fetches, full-art basics, and the return of Landfall (hopefully better balanaced for Limited this time) in Zendikar 2. hastag free hedron crab
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Apr 5, 2015 03:25
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So what is the downside of AVR in legacy? I wasn't playing at the time so I don't know what Legacy was like then but it seems like its big contribution was enabling Miracles which is a pretty cool control deck.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:52
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:So what is the downside of AVR in legacy? I wasn't playing at the time so I don't know what Legacy was like then but it seems like its big contribution was enabling Miracles which is a pretty cool control deck. Grizzlebees was the biggest one, also Countertop was already a cool deck before miracles were printed. e: also craterhoof.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:58
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AVR has a bunch of influence on Legacy. Does it run Bonfire? I feel like it should be running at least one Bonfire.
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Apr 5, 2015 03:59
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:So what is the downside of AVR in legacy? I wasn't playing at the time so I don't know what Legacy was like then but it seems like its big contribution was enabling Miracles which is a pretty cool control deck. 1 mana instant speed Wrath and 3 mana 7/7 Flying, Lifelink Yawgmoth's Bargains, mainly.
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Chill la Chill posted:Nothing's wrong with Annihilator and permanents aren't sacred cows. I was going to write a post about how I disagree, but really I don't. I mean, having a creature that effectively ends the game come down on turn 4-5 or even later, is really not different than splinter twin comboing off and ending the game. I think people just get butthurt because, sometimes they can cheat it out even earlier when defenses are lower, and people feel like they should be able to deal with a creature better than they can most eldrazi. It really isn't unbalanced. I'd expect if they do annihilator again on giant eldrazi they'll have some "if you didn't cast this from your hand sacrifice it" clause on them.
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For some reason I thought Big G was Dark Ascension. I guess I don't pay enough attention to set symbols.
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With them doing return to Zendikar I think new Eldrazi are less an if then a when. Hopefully they don't make something even crazier than Emerakul
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Angry Grimace posted:I just was annoyed because there is a big difference between Legacy and Standard. Having one card blow out your fragile combo in a universe that has Force of Will is a big difference.  AVR did shake up legacy something fierce. I also quit after playing block constructed at GP LA for 3 years, so I feel it's extra bad. Honestly outside of the miracles mechanic I don't think griselbrand or craterhoof are actually that bad. it's mostly just adding a bunch of synergistic cards to the most durdly loving control deck out there that makes it unappealing.
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OK guys I foudn the best playmat. Sorry JacexSorin, this is now #1. jassi007 posted:I was going to write a post about how I disagree, but really I don't. I mean, having a creature that effectively ends the game come down on turn 4-5 or even later, is really not different than splinter twin comboing off and ending the game. I think people just get butthurt because, sometimes they can cheat it out even earlier when defenses are lower, and people feel like they should be able to deal with a creature better than they can most eldrazi. It really isn't unbalanced. I'd expect if they do annihilator again on giant eldrazi they'll have some "if you didn't cast this from your hand sacrifice it" clause on them. Gearheart won a game through 2 emrakul swings - it's fine in that respect too. I wonder if the people who get butthurt about losing lands as a resource are separate from or overlap the people who get mad about cards as a resource being lost to hand discard. e: As a miracles player, it is actually cool and good.
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They did give us a nice "eat a dick countertop" card in the next set though. Abrupt decay crushed that durdle poo poo for a while... Which was nice. Smug prick: I cast counter balance and top. Me: abrupt decay your counter balance. Smug prick staring at the top of his deck and his force of will: uhhhhhhhh.... Edit: when it first came out and I immedialey shoved a 4 of into punishing Jund I let them try to counter it as well. They would durdle with top and put a 2 casting cost card on top and show it. I would be a dick and say "that's nice, go ahead and put the counterbalance in the graveyard." They would look at me like I'm an rear end in a top hat and explain what counter balance did. Which let me be an rear end in a top hat and go "oh yeah it does do that. But last time I checked this card said 'can't be countered.'" Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Apr 5, 2015 |
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It's probably because I joined Magic when Innistrad came out, but all of those "terrible" changes to Legacy don't really bother me. Then again, I also didn't care too much about graveyard decks being hated out by Rest in Peace from Return to Ravnica. Legacy is better defined by mistakes by R&D than by a purposeful direction.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:28
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Chill la Chill posted:OK guys I foudn the best playmat. Sorry JacexSorin, this is now #1. where do I get this? we have some pretty gross anime playmat dudes and I want this for backup.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:32
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Sigma-X posted:where do I get this? You can easily find male models to get off to via google. But seriously, it's an image you'll need to submit to a custom playmat website. Such as Inked Playmats.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:37
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The only righteous busted legacy card is the one that fits in my legacy deck
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Ramos posted:You can easily find male models to get off to via google. "Dude, like my playmat of [almost nude anime lady]?" Yo, that's pretty good and all, but check out my Polnareff playmat!  Edit: So, where does Storm rate on the Storm scale? I'm thinking 6?
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Count Bleck posted:"Dude, like my playmat of [almost nude anime lady]?" The storm scale was, at its birth, literally 1 to Storm. Storm was originally a ten. No clue where it is now.
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Apr 5, 2015 04:53
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Ramos posted:The storm scale was, at its birth, literally 1 to Storm. Storm was originally a ten. No clue where it is now. Probably still at the top, I can't think of a mechanic since then that's been anywhere close to as broken for everything from standard to vintage.
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Storm isn't broken as long as you never use it on anything that can win the game when multiplied by 20. I.e. nothing useful or interesting.
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Sotar posted:Well, nevermind then If you play at card kingdom on Fridays, look for the mustachioed guy, I can probably help you find some people.
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. Still, I would like to know where to find playtest groups.
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There's just not a lot of design space left for Storm that isn't either broken or boring. Especially at common or uncommon.
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Jabor posted:Dragonstorm was actually really cool and not at all broken. Grapeshot is probably fine too, because counting to 20 with spells is substantially harder than 10. Tendrils and Empty the Warrens are probably a little too good, and Minds Desire is just straight-up "who thought this was a good idea". Mind's Desire, at least when it was printed, was considered interesting but incredibly tough to make it work. Brain Freeze was preferred as a wincon IIRC.
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Cascade and the manaless suspend spells strike me as dumber than Storm and the 'untap lands' cycle of blue spells were hilarious in how poorly thought out they were. Great Whale more like random infinite mana combo in a midrange deck because reasons? Granted with how WoTC is now stuff like eye of nowhere is probably highly rated on the storm scale. And Gigadrowse. I wonder how they feel about Ankh of Mishra. Also you can make tons of Storm spells that aren't overpowered but the mechanic has little design space in terms of actually interesting cards. Very specific niche stuff might work fine to make still interesting cards, like I don't know, a mini collected company or mini returned to the ranks with storm, but those are still really hard to find homes for. Might be more interesting if you could split part of the card off from the storm, like the copies just have Scry 1 or Gain 1 Life, but then that isn't Storm anymore. Well I guess like "The first copy of this spell to resolve in a turn does X and Y, otherwise just do Y. Storm." Works.
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I think the biggest issue facing reprinting storm is that everyone will get mad at wizards if storm gets reprinted and was just okay. Like, if it was like most keyword mechanics, where it doesn't really have a deck oriented around it, and sees a little bit of play in standard, it would be seen as an utter disaster by fans.
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Apr 5, 2015 06:14
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Personally I see nothing wrong with the "Letter Bomb" mechanic. I predict that.
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Storm is awesome because it's a mechanic that is on its own very mediocre and is entirely dependant on the engine it's built around. The fact that wizards prints cards like brainstorm and dark ritual doesn't in itself make the storm mechanic bad. Dragonstorm was one of the coolest decks ever
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Watching Dragonstorm vs Ignite Memories live at Worlds 2007 was absolutely incredible. The crowd was going NUTS.
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Cactrot posted:If you play at card kingdom on Fridays, look for the mustachioed guy, I can probably help you find some people. Yeah, I play at Mox Boarding House in Bellevue now since I can literally walk there. I might show up to Saturday drafts though.
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