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Now hopefully this will go viral and something will happen. I know it's unlikely even with a fantastic video like that, but here's hoping. Edit: Like really, they should have had a hashtag to go with this. Something like #notmydickpic Shadoer fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Apr 6, 2015 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:John Oliver and the team at last week tonight are loving heroes as far as I'm concerned. The man has some balls and I also appreciate that HBO has this show on the air. Like no one else would have done that. Yes to all of this. loving incredible stuff, this episode. Also, just from a comedy standpoint, John Oliver's reaction to "If you're not on the list, you are now" was flawless.
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Shadoer posted:Now hopefully this will go viral and something will happen. I know it's unlikely even with a fantastic video like that, but here's hoping. Barack Obama the United States 44th #notmypresident deserved more love
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I couldn't really come up with a good hashtag, which is unfortunate since a lot of people get their news that way: #YouDownWithDPP
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My ideas: #HandsOffMyDickPicNSA #HandsoffMyDickPic #NotMyDickPic
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Holy poo poo he just interviewed Edward Snowden. That was amazing.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:That was absolutely fantastic. Good god. I still can't believe he actually played those clips to crush Snowden's spirit, but the ensuing discussion made it all the better. The fact he tells John not to give in and change his behavior because of government intrusion is very  But we will consider him the bad guy because we cannot bear to face the tough questions and harsh truths of life.
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Remember when Obama said he'd end the spying and illegal wiretapping during the 08 campaign? And now his administration has gone after leakers harder than any administration ever. Seems like it was said by a totally different person. If Obama really cared about this he'd pardon Snowden for exposing all this. He was way more responsible and cautious than Manning and without him we would have no clue about all this.
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PassTheRemote posted:But we will consider him the bad guy because we cannot bear to face the tough questions and harsh truths of life. Its telling how spineless the left has become when they're not willing to take Obama to task for this poo poo because it might hurt the Democrats in the next election (too late).
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This show's incredible. axeil posted:Remember when Obama said he'd end the spying and illegal wiretapping during the 08 campaign?
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dick picks have destroyed congressmen and shifted the balance of power in politics before. if this gets pushed hard enough I think that the power of the dick pic can finally be harnessed for what is a concrete good.
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EatinCake posted:I really hope the Obama Admin does something before they're out of office.  Promised fulfilled.
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axeil posted:Remember when Obama said he'd end the spying and illegal wiretapping during the 08 campaign? And now his administration has gone after leakers harder than any administration ever. Seems like it was said by a totally different person. You would be fool to believe Obama was serious about getting rid of the police state mentality that was created as a result of 9/11. If anything he just continued multiple bush administration policies such as the high tech domestic spy program or drone strike assassination program.
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Same can be expected from any other probable
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Glenn Greenwald wrote a thing about how there's nothing special about Americans not knowing who Snowden is, most people don't know a drat thing about government. https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/06/john-oliver-interview-political-disengagement-american-public/
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I wonder how much of an impact this show will have on our society...
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Grouchio posted:I wonder how much of an impact this show will have on our society... In 10 years every government policy will be explained in relation to dick pics. Social Security? Ensuring the ability to send and receive dick pics into retirement. Infrastructure? The very means of sending dick pics. War? Those sons of bitches hate us for our dick picks and want to take them from us.
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Gyges posted:War? Those sons of bitches hate us for our dick picks and want to take them from us. No, more like they hate us because our phones are better and the cameras have higher resolution.
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The Daily Beast: "John Oliver Makes Edward Snowden Squirm on Last Week Tonight" Is that what they really got out of that segment and interview?
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Echo Chamber posted:The Daily Beast: "John Oliver Makes Edward Snowden Squirm on Last Week Tonight" It's the best headline they got out of it.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:No, more like they hate us because our phones are better and the cameras have higher resolution. They hate us because we exploit their people for the resources to develop our dick-sending devices
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm wondering why some people watched the interview and somehow took from it that it made Snowden look bad. Some folks really, really hate Edward Snowden and that resulting lens leads to some really stupid things.
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm wondering why some people watched the interview and somehow took from it that it made Snowden look bad. It made Snowden look sad. Here's a guy who fled his home to stay out of jail, and 2 years later a comedian is shoving in his face that his ideals and dreams resulted in literally nothing changing and the "man on the street" has no idea who he is. I'll say this, having Snowden explain how the US Government can take and store dick pics is probably the most important thing he's done. It's putting it into a context that the vast majority of people can understand and get upset over.
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Oh Snapple! posted:Some folks really, really hate Edward Snowden and that resulting lens leads to some really stupid things. I actually wasn't a big fan of Snowden myself, but Oliver actually turned my opinion more to his favor. What an interview.
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I think when Snowden was watching the girl in the dick pics video talk about how we need more transparency and more clearly written laws about these things he looked hopeful.
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It proves that contextualizing things in to something a guy or gal on the street can identify with is the way to get change. Conflating the head of the FCC as a babysitter that happens to be a dingo, creating an ad blitz with Jeff the diseased lung, and showing how unfettered surveillance means that the government is staring at your junk is necessary for that context.
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Irish Joe posted:"The government has a record of everything you've done online, a copy of every e-mail and text you've ever sent or received, and a recording of every cell phone conversation you've ever had" needs context? It does for Americans, apparently. I'm German and Snowden is a hero here; it confuses me deeply that people in the US don't even seem to know him. At the very least, I expected them to have bought into some Fox News traitor spin.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:It proves that contextualizing things in to something a guy or gal on the street can identify with is the way to get change. Conflating the head of the FCC as a babysitter that happens to be a dingo, creating an ad blitz with Jeff the diseased lung, and showing how unfettered surveillance means that the government is staring at your junk is necessary for that context. I agree to an extent, but I do think that the whole dick pics thing oversimplifies a serious issue. The fact that NSA employees pass around dick pics for fun is the least horrifying thing about a government agency that has the ability to access pretty much any data it wants with only a kangaroo court to keep it in check. A huge part of any conversation on government surveillance is about how privacy is important even if you're not a terrorist, because a ton of people operate with that mindset of "if you have nothing to hide, why do you care?" This was never brought up, and it really should have been.
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Oh Snapple! posted:Some folks really, really hate Edward Snowden and that resulting lens leads to some really stupid things. No, he definitely tore into Snowden for a while, a lot longer than I was expecting -- and more than Snowden was expecting too, I think. I was expecting the vast majority of time to be devoted to dangers of the surveillance state. The first few minutes of the interview really took Snowden to task for releasing a ton of classified data that could potentially threaten lives or allow terrorist organizations to evade surveillance. And I think, objectively speaking, he deserves to answer for that as well, even if the answer ends up being "It was outweighed by the public's need to see what kind of records the government was keeping."
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It's not at all new that complicated news needs to be put into context; it's just that most news outlets prefer to do stories about things that people are already interested in rather than doing their loving job and making the important things of the day interesting to the viewer. Actual investigative reporting is mostly dead because reporters can't loving present things in an interesting way.
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Irish Joe posted:"The government has a record of everything you've done online, a copy of every e-mail and text you've ever sent or received, and a recording of every cell phone conversation you've ever had" needs context? Contextualizing it in a way that displays a specific capacity they have that is disturbing is much easier to understand.
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Katana Gomai posted:It does for Americans, apparently. I'm German and Snowden is a hero here; it confuses me deeply that people in the US don't even seem to know him. At the very least, I expected them to have bought into some Fox News traitor spin. "Man on the street" segments are intended to prove a point, confirm a bias, land a joke/etc. Not to be accurate. Yes they found some idiots that didn't know who Snowden was, yes there are a lot of them, but I promise you people are stupid and ignorant of what goes on around them in every country or grouping you can come up with, in roughly equal measure. I mean, Germans don't exactly have a sterling reputation for keeping their government from loving up now do you?
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IRQ posted:"Man on the street" segments are intended to prove a point, confirm a bias, land a joke/etc. Not to be accurate. "Yeah well your country sucks too" is such a wonderful counterstatement. 
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JT Jag posted:To the layman that sounds like exaggeration, and besides, with so much data what do I have to worry about with my relatively innocent online activities? You do have to love the vanity required for the contextualization though. All the things you've done or said electronically will be lost in the sea of data. But pictures of your dick? gently caress, no way those get lost in the shuffle. Your dick is magic.
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