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Whirlwind Jones posted:Probably not until days before release (so the ~21st). Probably, although there's at least a chance they might release the embargo a day or so before the preorder happens on the 10th. I know with iPhones they've been letting reviews come out between the presale and the device being released, but iPhones sell themselves these days.
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The appointment only thing is a pain, but there's absolutely nothing else Apple could do to solve the problem of letting people who actually might buy one try them on in some sort of comfortable environment. In every single Apple store I've ever been in you can't even try out an iPad or MacBook, because literally every single one they have is always being used by either some random mouthbreather acting like they've never seen a device with a screen before, or some ten year old hovering over them playing games or taking selfies or whatever. Imagine if you walked in to look at a watch and every demo unit was attached to someone else's wrist and then attached to some table, with a bunch of other people crowded around it.
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Bottom Liner posted:Goon's hating social interaction, imagine that. Did you see that little training module that was posted on 9to5mac? quote:Employees have been told to make comments such as “you seem to have a fun style. I think the Pink Sport band would match your style perfectly,” or “the white strap looks great on you.” Sounds excruciating.
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smackfu posted:Did you see that little training module that was posted on 9to5mac?
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smackfu posted:Did you see that little training module that was posted on 9to5mac? Oh no, another human might give me a compliment while trying to sell me something 
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Whirlwind Jones posted:Sounds like normal human interaction in a retail environment, actually. Which largely are terrible experiences. I have no problem talking with knowledgeable employees about products that I need information for, but that generally isn't the case. More frequently, you get stuck with a salesperson who is uneducated/pushy.
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Apr 6, 2015 21:57
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"I'm sure I'll have this for years."
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Apr 6, 2015 21:58
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That is definitely what normal shopping for fashion / clothing items in a boutique retail environment sounds like. Sorry basement dwellers who shop online and would find normal human interaction in a retail environment to be "excruciating".
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IuniusBrutus posted:Which largely are terrible experiences. I have no problem talking with knowledgeable employees about products that I need information for, but that generally isn't the case. More frequently, you get stuck with a salesperson who is uneducated/pushy.
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Apr 6, 2015 22:00
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Even buying a watch at Costco requires an employee hover with you.
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zen death robot posted:Talks about "normal human interaction" while also bitching about "mouth breathers" and children in the Apple Store at the mall. Good poo poo. Woah, nice use of bold there. How provocative. I did say that children and idiots constantly hog all the demo units of every product at every Apple store. What's your point? 
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Apr 6, 2015 22:21
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zen death robot posted:My point is that you're kind of a weird fucker to get uptight about other shoppers getting in the way of buying your gadget 10 minutes sooner. Did you even read the quote you're complaining about? monkeu posted:The appointment only thing is a pain, but there's absolutely nothing else Apple could do to solve the problem of letting people who actually might buy one try them on in some sort of comfortable environment. In every single Apple store I've ever been in you can't even try out an iPad or MacBook, because literally every single one they have is always being used by either some random mouthbreather acting like they've never seen a device with a screen before, or some ten year old hovering over them playing games or taking selfies or whatever. Imagine if you walked in to look at a watch and every demo unit was attached to someone else's wrist and then attached to some table, with a bunch of other people crowded around it.
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zen death robot posted:My point is that you're kind of a weird fucker to get uptight about other shoppers getting in the way of buying your gadget 10 minutes sooner. I'm not uptight about it, it's just a fact of life that every Apple store is always packed, often with people who clearly have no intention of actually buying the products they're standing around using. Hence my acknowledgement that appointment-only sales of the watch are a pain, but the only practical solution.
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IuniusBrutus posted:Which largely are terrible experiences. I have no problem talking with knowledgeable employees about products that I need information for, but that generally isn't the case. More frequently, you get stuck with a salesperson who is uneducated/pushy. So just tell the Apple store person that you don't need help and you're just trying the thing on? Also, I'm not sure what kinds of Apple Stores you guys do your shopping in, but I've been in 4-5 of them around the US and never, not once, had one of the employees feel in any way pushy or try to annoyingly upsell me.
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Gentleman, as you know, the choice of fedora that one dons to the Apple Store is not one to be made lightly. Thus honor would be served if my fellow compatriots could take a moment assess the selection below and leave their comments as to which would be most appropriate for this most serious endeavor:
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In other news, I just put in my application for a part-time job at the mall. http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/06/tim-cook-apple-employee-watch-discounts/
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shodanjr_gr posted:So just tell the Apple store person that you don't need help and you're just trying the thing on? Also, I'm not sure what kinds of Apple Stores you guys do your shopping in, but I've been in 4-5 of them around the US and never, not once, had one of the employees feel in any way pushy or try to annoyingly upsell me. Apparently I find the stores that often have as many employees as customers in the store at the same time. I've had the pushy thing in all stores I've been in except for one, and this is across 7 states.
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Apr 7, 2015 00:14
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The whole appointment thing is less for trying on the product and more to make people feel exclusive for wanting one/add to the marketing value of the Apple Watch being awesome and totally worth having.
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Thousands of people will try them on. I hope you like lurgies.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:The whole appointment thing is less for trying on the product and more to make people feel exclusive for wanting one/add to the marketing value of the Apple Watch being awesome and totally worth having. EDIT: The only reason dealerships allow people to test drive cars is to make them feel exclusive and add to the marketing value of the car. :pseudo101:
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coldplay chiptunes posted:Nah, it's to allow people to try on the device and experience its features so they can decide if they want to purchase it. Hmmmm yes, a difference being that you can test drive a 20,000 dollar car without making an appointment but heaven forbid you want to try on a $450 watch without calling ahead of time. Hot Dog Day #82 fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 01:39
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Zero appointments under Steve.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Hmmmm yes, a difference being that you can test drive a 20,000 dollar car without making an appointment but heaven forbid you want to try on a $450 watch without calling ahead of time. Show me a car lot that has even 1/10th of the people you would find in your average Apple store, all of whom are looking to try the same new vehicle. Apple stores are going to be slammed, even more so than usual. Obviously they want to control that. Do you also think it's stupid that you have to schedule an appointment with a Genius to get your computer looked at? I sure don't, since it made getting in and out of a store that had 100 people in it much easier than it would have been otherwise.
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You can walk in and try on a $5-10k Rolex, no reason you shouldn't be able to do the same with an apple watch.
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rear end Catchcum posted:Zero appointments under Steve. Terrible comparison. Under Steve, most of the iPhone launches were absolute debacles which would have taken effort to make worse. Slow, inaccessible carrier sites. Apple's own store website getting pummeled and being easier to access from the mobile version of the site. I'm sure there are even worse stories that I can't remember. Every single time, every single year. Except maybe in 2007 when dumb phones and Blackberries were still pervasive and everyone thought the idea of an iPhone was a failure waiting to happen.
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blugu64 posted:You can walk in and try on a $5-10k Rolex, no reason you shouldn't be able to do the same with an apple watch. If over the course of a day the Rolex store expected to get 3000 people wanting to try on a Rolex, I'd be certain they would make you schedule an appointment.
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blugu64 posted:You can walk in and try on a $5-10k Rolex, no reason you shouldn't be able to do the same with an apple watch.
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So if you guys were getting this 50% discount would you still get the model you were originally looking at or would you spring for something more expensive? I really like the stainless steel with black leather band but I feel like the smarter decision is the space grey sport with black band. I've got a little baby that I'm always getting into messes with and constantly washing stuff so I'm thinking it wouldn't be smart to go for leather. Thoughts?
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Shampy posted:So if you guys were getting this 50% discount would you still get the model you were originally looking at or would you spring for something more expensive?  And as far as appointments I've seen sites saying they'll do walk ins with a wait, but I imagine that might be a long wait in the early days.
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Shampy posted:So if you guys were getting this 50% discount would you still get the model you were originally looking at or would you spring for something more expensive? I'm going the 42 mm stainless steel with the black leather loop for day to day wear, and buying a green sport strap for when I exercise with it. My pie in the sky is the all black stainless steel, but I really can't justify the extra cash for it. Maybe when I upgrade to the third gen or whatever.
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If the store isn't busy, you get to try on the watch immediately. If it's busy, you make an appointment because there's no one there to grab one for you. This is such an easy thing to grasp.
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Shampy posted:So if you guys were getting this 50% discount would you still get the model you were originally looking at or would you spring for something more expensive? I feel like if you have that discount and you're working retail you take the opportunity to get the more expensive model. There will always be a Sport available at an affordable price.
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If anyone apple employees read this thread and don't plan on using their discount I would be very interested in working something out.
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rear end Catchcum posted:If anyone apple employees read this thread and don't plan on using their discount I would be very interested in working something out. After all that poo poo talking from you, you're looking to buy an intentionally crippled first gen useless smart watch from Apple??
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I tell you what the heart rate monitor is going to explode when I see the price tag on that thing
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rear end Catchcum posted:If anyone apple employees read this thread and don't plan on using their discount I would be very interested in working something out. You're my favorite poster ever
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Super Dude posted:Here's one with 4.5 stars for $80. This looks amazing. I probably won't buy an Apple Watch after all. Great find!
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Angela Ahrendts posted:The Apple Store app and our online store make it much easier to purchase Apple Watch and the new MacBook. ... This is a significant change in mindset, and we need your help to make it happen. Tell your customers we have more availability online, and show them how easy it is to order. You'll make their day. I'm really surprised Apple would tell customers to leave and use the online store instead. They've been saying the retail store is the best experience for buying their products for years, even when it's had hours long waits on product launches. They've offered pre-orders, but only when they were essentially forced after insane lines for the 3G and 3GS. They clearly wanted everyone possible to use the store. Are they just facing reality that an uncrowded retail store may be better than the online experience, but they don't have uncrowded stores?
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Yeah, it's exactly that. They'll carry some in the store, but with 30 SKUs of Watch not even counting the Edition editions and six different MacBooks, that's a lot to keep in stock. Hell, I got a 13" MBP and they didn't have the specific one I wanted in stores on launch day (though it appears they do now).
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