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Rime posted:I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but if not you should probably do a cursory fact check before tossing out stupidity like that. China was aligned with the Soviet Union, it is considered Second World in the context of those terms. The Sino-Soviet split was a thing that happened and it was a very, very real enmity that existed.
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Ceciltron posted:The Sino-Soviet split was a thing that happened and it was a very, very real enmity that existed. Yeeessss, but that doesn't change...you know what, screw it. I'm just going to leave this here and you chucklefucks can educate yourselves for a change, I'm not in the mood to play history teacher tonight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
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Any source of median income by the areas listed in the map? Like the median income in BC vs Victoria or Vancouver is probably going to be pretty different. Also my Grandpa built a lot of his career as the general in charge of a big chunk of the Soviet/Chinese border. At least in his district they did not have much fear or respect for the Chinese and most of their intel was mostly about how poorly organized and equipped they were. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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I don't understand how they come up with the 'needed income'. At 20% downpayment for houses in Vancouver, according to their math you'll need to borrow $600000. That's roughly $3000/month or 50% of your net income at $150k/year. Costs like maintenance, property tax, insurance and utilities haven't even been factored in.
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# ? Apr 8, 2015 04:39 |
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Congratulations assholes. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/canadian-taxpayers-lose-35-billion-on-2009-bailout-of-auto-firms/article23828543/ quote:Canadian taxpayers will fall about $3.5-billion short of breaking even on the money the federal and Ontario governments invested in the bailouts of Chrysler Group LLC and General Motors Co. in 2009. Awesome job steve.
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Rime posted:Yeeessss, but that doesn't change...you know what, screw it. For a guy who has literally never met a Chinese person before you sure complain about them a lot. Thanks for the wikipedia link to a thing that most living Chinese people actually still remember, I'm sure they'll be fascinated to learn about how China was an ally of the Soviet Union.
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Rime posted:Yeeessss, but that doesn't change...you know what, screw it. Oh hey looks like there was an actual military conflict in the late 60s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict And a whole loving wikipedia article about how Russia and China hated each other http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split And as for the proxy wars between China and Russia? There's the failed Chinese invasion of Vietnam which the Russians helped the Vietnamese fight
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Are you guys really so loving dense that you're going to insist China was not a second world nation? Seriously? Are we actually having this discussion? Like, good christ, I'm well aware of the history between the two post 1950's, but that doesn't change that they were not third world. Throatwarbler posted:For a guy who has literally never met a Chinese person before you sure complain about them a lot. Thanks for the wikipedia link to a thing that most living Chinese people actually still remember, I'm sure they'll be fascinated to learn about how China was an ally of the Soviet Union. I couldn't see your avatar combo on mobile. Now this all makes sense. Rime fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:Congratulations assholes. So Canadian government basically bailed out US car company in hopes that the jobs would stay in Canada? The government lost money on stock sale and to add insult to injury most new car plants are in the US south/mexico. etalian fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Rime posted:I don't think China ever counted as the "third world" since it was allied with the USSR, but yes, yes it does. Yes, China was second world due to being a communist hellhole instead of a regular hellhole. Congrats. Doesn't make this here post any less wrong and you should probably stop trying to make everyone feel bad about calling you on it.
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shrike82 posted:What's Hal_2005's gimmick? Or the alternative is I know what I'm talking about, and you lack both the wit to know when you're being made fun at and how to parse facts sprinkled with inside baseball. D&D is fun, and as the Syria and crude explanation proved my gimmick is to offer both quick explanations of complex issues when the argument is important to Canadians, like say understanding why crude exports are accelerating despite market prices falling or why geopolitical law matters. And sometimes I make it fun for my own posting. And most of the time I'd rather get the facts out, and let someone else worry about the punctuation. Lifes little priorities, sue me. I do manage a large fund, and I do alot of work in Canadian Politics on the fiscal & monetary side at both the Provincial, Federal and International level. And no, I'm not Rob Anders, and if you honestly believe that, you need a few more bong rips for my sake. I'm also a goon. And no, I'm not Kevin O'Leary (of Borderbund fame). To help you out: I unironically gave the oral history of why Vancouver and the Kelowna corridor went from an 1950's mining and pacific rim depot to an overcrowded and very indebited copy of Los Angles. Take it or leave it, but every word of that is true. Sure it had a bit of weak spelling, but I'm sure if you can read 20 pages of the East European thread, you could appreciate how I broke each decade worth of insider baseball and politicking down into a set of small paragraphs which any sperg could read and passably comprehend. Since you failed, I guess you're well below the bell curve of a normal CanadaGoon, sad for you. The urbanization of Vancouver can basically be explained as a slow drunken lurch on bad debt advisory and BC Treasury servicing to paper over growing entitlements as both BC primary industries and financial programs failed over the prior 30 years of populism. I think that's the point of this 10 month old circle jerk on excessive malinvestment. I will bet before October 2015 we will have at least 4 more posts in the Canada or Canada bubble thread asking the question "what happened to Vancouver?" or lamenting on how clearly US or North European credit origination could have saved Canadians from the bubble. At that time, you can reference what I said and clean it up into a more vibrant post. In reality, the Canadian credit boom was fueled by excessive cash laundering much like the NY, London and Australia/NZ credit booms. Thread over. Make sense? As for my other post: CI pointed out how Trivest tweeted on the recent TSX Energy sector 18% rally off the lows. Since Peter of ARC's explanation is now unavilable on Globe & Mail.com to repost, I explained a dumbed down soundbite of why fracklog is a more eloquent method of CI's rant on excessive supply, but Trivest said it better. To preface that post I started by suggesting two quick media shows that could help the most autistic mincome CanadaGoon (you) learn both when crude will "bottom" and how it will feedback into the rate hike cycle which goons have spent all this time expecting/hoping to profit from. Since you clearly missed this, and jumped straight to I'll bet you missed all the main points of that post, much like this one. I hear that's your gimmick, and likely why you lack attention to details in life. Hal_2005 fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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ocrumsprug posted:Yes, China was second world due to being a communist hellhole instead of a regular hellhole. Congrats. ASDUHBASIDBASUIDBASIDBSADBASIDBASUIRFG(QWE*EDRBQWASJC ASZDXICFVHAWSKDCFBAWSUFGVASDBVC ASDUHCVB !@#$*&!@(*#&!@()#&!@*(#&!@*)#!@&)#!)@*#&!@**!@() THE THREE WORLD MODEL AND ITS ALIGNMENTS PREDATE THE IDEOLOGICAL SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO NATIONS BY A DECADE, YOU INSUFFERABLE loving STUCK-UP IGNORAMUSES. CHINA WAS LUMPED IN WITH THE USSR AS A "SECOND WORLD" NATION BECAUSE FROM THE END OF WWII TO 1960, THEY WERE loving ALLIES. CRUISE CONTROL. OUTTIE.
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Rime posted:ASDUHBASIDBASUIDBASIDBSADBASIDBASUIRFG(QWE*EDRBQWASJC ASZDXICFVHAWSKDCFBAWSUFGVASDBVC ASDUHCVB !@#$*&!@(*#&!@()#&!@*(#&!@*)#!@&)#!)@*#&!@**!@() Nice meltdown.
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Rime posted:ASDUHBASIDBASUIDBASIDBSADBASIDBASUIRFG(QWE*EDRBQWASJC ASZDXICFVHAWSKDCFBAWSUFGVASDBVC ASDUHCVB !@#$*&!@(*#&!@()#&!@*(#&!@*)#!@&)#!)@*#&!@**!@() It's like you're trying to apply a simplistic, outdated model to something that isn't and getting called out for it. LOL at the Ottawa / Gatineau discrepancy.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Nice meltdown. Left out the Goldfix and 9/11 reference. But Agreed. Also, if you read Kissinger's work about China, China hated Russia from about 57 onwards. Could have had something to do with Stalin trying to kill Mao, but those are minor details not for D&D.
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Settle down Rime, Jesus.
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This is enormously entertaining reading now.
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Hal_2005 posted:Or the alternative is I know what I'm talking about, and you lack both the wit to know when you're being made fun at and how to parse facts sprinkled with inside baseball. D&D is fun, and as the Syria and crude explanation proved my gimmick is to offer both quick explanations of complex issues when the argument is important to Canadians, like say understanding why crude exports are accelerating despite market prices falling or why geopolitical law matters. And sometimes I make it fun for my own posting. And most of the time I'd rather get the facts out, and let someone else worry about the punctuation. Lifes little priorities, sue me. Lmao.
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shrike82 posted:Lmao. Its all in good fun: shrike82 Jun 11, 2005 I HAVE NEVER CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING WORTHWHILE TO ANY DISCUSSION EVER. IF YOU ARE REPLYING TO ME YOU ARE WASTING EVEN AS PALTRY A RESOURCE AS INTERNET FORUM SPACE. PLEASE STOP ENGAGING ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS GIMMICK FOR YEARS. So Shrike, since you have all the insights how about you tell me and Uncle Wong why you think the great city of Vancouver is all hosed up ? Take a swing at the big leagues, for the lulz.
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Hal_2005 posted:I do manage a large fund, and I do alot of work in Canadian Politics on the fiscal & monetary side at both the Provincial, Federal and International level. Nah, I don't feel the need to debate with you. I think it's hilarious that you don't have the wherewithal to understand that no one believes you. Although the notion of a Canadian that believes he runs a hedge fund and is a politician is in some ways peak Canada.
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shrike82 posted:Nah, I don't feel the need to debate with you. I think it's hilarious that you don't have the wherewithal to understand that no one believes you. Thanks for proving your red text and being called Peak Canada. Can you make that my red text ? We can use that as the "Hal" safe harbor clause going forward.
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Rime posted:ASDUHBASIDBASUIDBASIDBSADBASIDBASUIRFG(QWE*EDRBQWASJC ASZDXICFVHAWSKDCFBAWSUFGVASDBVC ASDUHCVB !@#$*&!@(*#&!@()#&!@*(#&!@*)#!@&)#!)@*#&!@**!@() I'd also like to point out that anyone who doesn't notice a difference between, colloquially, communist hellholes and regular hellholes has obviously not been to both. Communist hellholes are a drat sight better than normal hellholes, to be honest with you. Both are worse than places that aren't hellholes, but that should be obvious.
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Hal_2005 posted:Thanks for proving your red text and being called Peak Canada. Can you make that my red text ? We can use that as the "Hal" safe harbor clause going forward. Not until I get a boutique 75% tax credit on the avatars. Whatever you see in CIMS about me is a lie.
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EvilJoven posted:How do you convince the people with money to spend it expanding their business in an environment with shrinking demand?
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LemonDrizzle posted:You take it off them through the tax system (either directly or by borrowing with a plan to raise their taxes later on) and have the government spend it on alternative investments. loving commie.
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EvilJoven posted:loving commie. Yeah, but is he a 2nd World commie or a different variety? Really important to establish this, apparently.
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Paywalled, drat. Oh well.
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SpannerX posted:Paywalled, drat. Oh well. quote:After months of weakness in oil prices, a number of recent events provide cause for cautious optimism that a rebound is in the works. quote:The path to a new equilibrium in oil prices will no doubt have its fair share of casualties. Some smaller producers are being forced to drill unprofitable wells to generate cash to meet current obligations, and a few countries, including Venezuela and Russia, are also in “forced production” mode.
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Hal_2005, If oil prices rise to $80 or whatever in 18-36 months, is it relevant at all that oil prices may sink to $40 this summer?
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It's cool. The Saudi's (Iraq and Libya too) increased their production to cover this shortfall. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/08/saudi-arabia-boosts-crude-oil-production-to-highest-level-on-record Alberta is so screwed.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Hal_2005, Most places think the new market price for oil will be in in the $40-$50 range. Basically OPEC sucks at being a effective price control cartel and everything in the system has the incentive to create even more supply.
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etalian posted:Most places think the new market price for oil will be in in the $40-$50 range. I don't imagine anything about the current situation in Saudi Arabia/Yemen would make the Saudis produce LESS oil, too.
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Yeah and most places think the bubble will always pop, but its different this time. They aren't making more oil.
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Franks Happy Place posted:I don't imagine anything about the current situation in Saudi Arabia/Yemen would make the Saudis produce LESS oil, too. As shown by Saudi Arabia, the lower price means they have a incentive to produce even more oil to balance the books. Also lolling how experts think Saudis bombing some poorly armed Shias will magically increase the price of oil. Saudi Arabia can get away with the above since they can produce oil at a very low cost given all the massive investment in the company and also the relative ease of production compared to other methods like tar sands. On a random note this is a pretty good quick intro to commodity concepts such as contango: http://oil-price.net/en/articles/how-markets-influence-oil-price.php etalian fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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etalian posted:As shown by Saudi Arabia, the lower price means they have a incentive to produce even more oil to balance the books. Also lolling how experts think Saudis bombing some poorly armed Shias will magically increase the price of oil. 1) Saudis need money to fund their war (and the concomitant social bribery campaign they will need to run in order to keep the domestic population happy, naturally) 2) Saudis need everyone else in the world to be as un-annoyed with them as possible right now. Why would they try to orchestrate an OPEC curtailment right when they need friends? Neither of those two things are enough to, like, push them into high production, but they certainly lean against reducing consumption. As for the effect this 'war' is having on oil prices, like I said a week ago, an Iranian nuclear deal is a WAY bigger positive than a Saudi safari in Yemen is a negative.
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PetroChina looks for painless exit from Canadian oil sands I love that they want to do an asset swap so they don't even have to pay taxes.
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quote:Two major liquefied natural gas export projects on British Columbia’s coast face a more uncertain future with Royal Dutch Shell’s proposed $70-billion (U.S.) acquisition of BG Group. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...rticle23830779/
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