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Linvala saw play in pod before that was banned as a pre-emptive Twin answer that didn't die to bolt and represented a clock. e: chording up a Linvala in response to splinter win must have felt amazing.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why not just remove in response to Twin being on the stack?
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Serperoth posted:Besides Soul Sisters, is there an actual answer to a resolved Pestermite+Twin or Deceiver+Twin? Emphasis on "answer", not prevention. Zoness posted:Rakdos Charm
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# ? Apr 14, 2015 22:52 |
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Serperoth posted:Besides Soul Sisters, is there an actual answer to a resolved Pestermite+Twin or Deceiver+Twin? Emphasis on "answer", not prevention. Abrupt Decay, Path, Bolt on Pestermite, Galvanic Blast w/out Metalcraft on Petermite, Galvanic Blast w/ Metalcraft on Deceiver, Rending Volley, Dismember, Doom Blade, Ultimate Price, Victim of Night, Echoing Truth, Rakdos Charm, Combust, Wear//Tear even if you ignore the removal spells that you would likely cast before the Twin resolved there are plenty of options. Wear//Tear Destructive Revelry Naturalize Nature's Claim Is this a serious question? Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Suture Priest works against Exarch, too (as long as you have as much HP as your opponent).
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Abrupt Decay, Path, Bolt on Pestermite, Galvanic Blast w/out Metalcraft on Petermite, Galvanic Blast w/ Metalcraft on Deceiver, Rending Volley, Dismember, Doom Blade, Ultimate Price, Victim of Night, Echoing Truth, Rakdos Charm, Combust, Wear//Tear even if you ignore the removal spells that you would likely cast before the Twin resolved there are plenty of options. Yeah, it's pretty late and I didn't think that you can remove the enchanted guy at instant speed. Brainfart on my end. But I did find out about the existence of Batwing Brume, which seems like the best response. "Oh I lose? No you lose
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# ? Apr 14, 2015 22:57 |
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Rakdos charm also works, though honestly just play a card that does something in other matchups too, like any removal spell.
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# ? Apr 14, 2015 22:59 |
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There's also stuff like Night of Soul's Betrayal/Curse of Death's Hold.Angry Grimace posted:I'd be okay with BBE being unbanned if it meant JTMS being unbanned, I just hate BBE for reasons that are only half-related to its power level (Cascade is among the shittiest designed mechanics ever and gets even more stupid when stapled to a 3/2 haste duder).
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Serperoth posted:Yeah, it's pretty late and I didn't think that you can remove the enchanted guy at instant speed. Brainfart on my end. But I did find out about the existence of Batwing Brume, which seems like the best response. "Oh I lose? No you lose Yeah it's easy to forget there are a lot of ways to stop Twin for a turn that aren't destroying the creature or countering it and sometimes that's enough to win. I've been Rakdos Charmed, I've had Zealous Persecution stop me long enough to lose, I've had Vines of Vastwood blow me out when I thought "No way he boarded in Nature's Claim, hes only got one green" I once lost to a Puresteel Paladin deck that played Dispatch w/out Metalcraft and followed it up by crushing me with Sword of Fire and Ice. There's a lot to do against Twin, there's a reason so many players advocate removing nearly all the combo in post board games, it's not as oppressive as people like to convince themselves.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Yeah it's easy to forget there are a lot of ways to stop Twin that aren't destroying the creature or countering it and sometimes that's enough to win. I've been Rakdos Charmed, I've had Zealous Persecution stop me long enough to lose, I've had Vines of Vastwood blow me out when I thought "No way he boarded in Nature's Claim, hes only got one green" I once lost to a Puresteel Paladin deck that played Dispatch w/out Metalcraft and followed it up by crushing me with Sword of Fire and Ice. World's Best Puresteel Paladin Deck: Deck: Puresteel Paladin Deck //Creatures 3 Monastery Mentor 4 Puresteel Paladin //Lands 1 Island 2 Plains 3 Flooded Strand 2 Glimmervoid 1 Godless Shrine 3 Hallowed Fountain 2 Mystic Gate 1 Polluted Delta //Spells 4 Accorder's Shield 4 Bone Saw 4 Kite Shield 4 Paradise Mantle 1 Sigil of Distinction 4 Spidersilk Net 1 Echoing Truth 4 Muddle the Mixture 3 Noxious Revival 4 Retract 4 Mox Opal 1 Grapeshot //Sideboard 3 Angel's Grace 3 Batwing Brume 3 Gut Shot 3 Silence 3 Cavern of Souls
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I knew that effect was somewhere besides Rakdos Charm, I just didn't feel like looking.
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Angry Grimace posted:World's Best Puresteel Paladin Deck: Hmmm the guy who beat me ran 4x Paladin, 4x Mortarpod, 4x Flayer Husk, 4x Glint Hawk, 4x Opal, Batterskull, a couple of swords of XnY, Path, Dispatch, 4x Steelshapers Gift and tons of utility equipment, I saw him beat a Goryo's Vengence deck with a Leonin Bola. It was great the other dude was pissed. "BUT EMRAKUL HAS PROTECTION" From spells, Bro, apparently a pair of balls linked by string is too much for the Eldrazi to handle It was a kooky brew and I wonder what makes it bad because when I saw him play it definetely gave the impression that it had loads of game. Now that I'm thinking about it there might be a list with there with the Mentor, Darksteel Citadel, some blue for Ensoul Artifact, Thoughtcast, some permission. Interesting. EDIT: I don't actually think there is Puresteel Paladin deck waiting to be discovered. Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Angry Grimace posted:World's Best Puresteel Paladin Deck: Is this a deck that someone has played? Because I want to play it. Also Emrakul has pro: colored spells, so even if leonin bolas was red it still would be 2pro4emmy
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Yes that's fine. You can discuss splits and concessions independently to your hearts content. The problem is Judges have been very loose about what "independently" means so you get a lot of players who think you can nibble around the edges and the understanding a lot players and Judges have developed is that as long as you're not flat out directly asking your opponent to scoop in exchange for a split than its totally allowed and you can imply and wink wink all day. Which of us, if any, did something wrong?
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Sigma-X posted:Is this a deck that someone has played? Because I want to play it. It was 3rd at States (idk where) http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=82550
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Yawgmoth posted:Which of us, if any, did something wrong? The penalty is the same for the person who makes the bribe and the person who accepts it. In this case your opponent first violated the rules when he said "Ill concede if you give me the pack" at that point you are supposed to call a Judge, you did not and in failing to do so and accepting his offer you are also now guilty of Bribery. A Judge should DQ both of you. I'll quote L4 and excellent Judge Kim Warren on the subject of these types of serious infractions at FNM or other regular REL events. L4 Kim Warren posted:The most common disqualifications are those that occur for rolling a die or using some other random method to determine the outcome of a match, or for bribery where some extra incentive is offered in exchange for a desired match result. Unlike with cheating, these infractions do not require a player to be aware that what they are attempting to do is breaking the rules in order to lead to a disqualification. It is important that Magic matches are decided based on the parameters of the game in order to be fair to all the participants in a tournament. Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I kindof agree. BBE probably wouldn't break the format but having such a horribly sacky mechanic on a format-defining creature sounds miserable. BBE having an Armageddon attached to it sure was format breaking for a minute in Modern.
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Only loss tonight was against RG Dragons with Xenagos and Stormbreath and it was scary for my G/RDW. Any sideboard strategy for that? Thinking I might grab that Temple of Abandon and go up to 20 lands and throw 2 rabbles in the sideboard instead of outpost siege. The Pro Tour guy had 20 lands and I'm thinking that's the best to smooth it out enough. The fetches help a lot, but only if you actually draw them. Anything else for a RDW sideboard to think about for Saturday? PTQ and Game Day at my LGS, and will be my first ones ever of both of those.
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Dohaeris posted:Only loss tonight was against RG Dragons with Xenagos and Stormbreath and it was scary for my G/RDW. Any sideboard strategy for that? Thinking I might grab that Temple of Abandon and go up to 20 lands and throw 2 rabbles in the sideboard instead of outpost siege. The Pro Tour guy had 20 lands and I'm thinking that's the best to smooth it out enough. The fetches help a lot, but only if you actually draw them. Anything else for a RDW sideboard to think about for Saturday? PTQ and Game Day at my LGS, and will be my first ones ever of both of those. R/G is just a difficult matchup for RDW. You have to draw well and hope they don't draw a hand with a lot of dorks and things to ramp to.
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Angry Grimace posted:World's Best Puresteel Paladin Deck: This is loving incredible.
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Does it take longer than normal for a GPT to get recorded? I attended my first this last weekend and I still don't see it in my history even though I did a draft on Sunday which is there. I'm wondering if the store opted to not record me due to a situation that arose in my final match of the day. I accidentally started to draw two cards from the top of my deck and my opponent immediately called a judge, accused me of cheating stating that I drew two cards and then eventually he backpedaled to that he believed I saw the top card of my deck. I was a bit blown away as we were both 2-2 and out of contention for a top 8 spot so it seemed absurd to me that someone would bother cheating. I was not aware of any specific rules and was just playing for a couple plansewalker points and to test my deck some more. While the judge is conferring with the store owner I go to check my phone for texts and he makes what I felt was a rather smarmy remark about not being allowed to use my phone. All around the guy seemed like a dick but he's local to the store and after he trounced me with a never ending parade of Dromoka's Commands I heard him talking poo poo about me to the judge. I'm wondering if they chose to side with him and just make my results disappear.
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So... does this deck do anything if you don't draw a paladin or if your opponent draws removal?
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cheetah7071 posted:So... does this deck do anything if you don't draw a paladin or if your opponent draws removal? poo poo out like a dozen Monastery Mentor tokens.
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Mr. Peepers posted:This is loving incredible. I might start playing magic again to play this.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 05:24 |
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Real men play Spoils of the Vault.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 05:41 |
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cheetah7071 posted:So... does this deck do anything if you don't draw a paladin or if your opponent draws removal? Muddle the Mixture both finds the guy and protects him once he's on the field. It's practically unbeatable!
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My friend Martin wrote a bit on his Pro Tour victory - it's in Danish though, but Google Translate pulls through pretty nicely. (Formatting goes to hell though) https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.danskmagic.com%2Farticles%2Findex.php%3FID%3D1809
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alphabrawl posted:Reprints that'll never happen is my guess. I'm okay with this.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 11:17 |
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JerryLee posted:Without dumb recurring derails what would we actually talk about in this thread, though? I like that "if not for pedantic arguing what could we possibly do to discuss things" is apparently a concern
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 11:20 |
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Maybe a stupid question but do any LGS's have the ability or desire to say run a retro themed FNM? Would something like that be supported by Wizard or the player community? I only started playing right when Dragon's Maze was released and I realize I can play those decks now if I wanted since they're modern legal but they lose out to actual real modern decklists. I just thought of a casual style FNM of an old set/block would be hit with people who had favorite decks back then who can't play them now. ie Maze's End, U/W Control, Wolf Run Ramp, etc etc etc
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Maybe a stupid question but do any LGS's have the ability or desire to say run a retro themed FNM? Would something like that be supported by Wizard or the player community? The closest I've seen are flashback drafts, sometimes. We did RoE a few weeks ago. (It was overpriced, and I was the only one who pulled a $20+ card out of the whole pod. It was a Splinter Twin.)
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 15:34 |
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Maybe a stupid question but do any LGS's have the ability or desire to say run a retro themed FNM? Would something like that be supported by Wizard or the player community? FNM is now "any format you like". As far as Wizards is concerned, stores can run Urza's Block Constructed, Cube, Mirage Block Draft, and so on. The question is whether your store wants to run a retro-themed FNM, and the players. You could look for ideas in old Invitational stuff, they've balanced decks out by having players lose life or starting hand size, so that could work potentially?
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I don't know if any of you have been paying attention, but a number of big names in magic have done a modern rotisserie draft over the past few weeks, and they're streaming their matches on twitch at 6pm PST tonight. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vce9vdhxqtu6zrptp_GmTyq3ik79wdqNxc4iXPF5DUk/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0 Should be a fun watch, some interesting picks. We've got Randy Buehler with a balls to the wall nearly mono red aggro, and Rashad Miller who first picked Glimpse the Unthinkable and has built some kind of Mill/Self-mill monstrosity. Others have all taken various different paths, and everyone's deck looks pretty good. I'm excited to check it out, though I'll probably be out playing paper magic through the beginning of it. Hopefully there'll be some VODs.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 15:56 |
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Surrak: still cool in the new timeline
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:25 |
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Legit man who can punch a Dragon and snap its neck confirmed Baller of Tarkir
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 16:54 |
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God this writing is still loving awful. Do they actually pay writers for this, or is it just the creative team on their downtime?
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Lancelot posted:God this writing is still loving awful. Do they actually pay writers for this, or is it just the creative team on their downtime? The latter.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 17:08 |
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Lol if you were expecting quality writing from the MTG creative fluff pieces.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 17:15 |
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quote:With a burst of speed, Surrak slammed his fist into his second's ribs, cracking several, and sending the knife clattering along the stone. He caught the huge man before he hit the ground and held him close, whispering into his ear. "I don't blame you for trying. But she knows I did nothing wrong. Why are dragons above humans? They're stronger. Simple as that. But the dragon we found was weak. Sick. So what reverence did we owe it? She understands. And now you do."
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jassi007 posted:The latter. Not just the creative team, they got Sam Stoddard(who is on the development team) to do it last week. But yes, basically lol MtG writing.
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