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Quest For Glory II posted:Grandia 1's load times are pretty abysmal, just bear that in mind Does the PSN version fix that at all?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Does the PSN version fix that at all?
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Quest For Glory II posted:Grandia 1's load times are pretty abysmal, just bear that in mind And you can work around them entirely if you play it on an emulator, which is probably what you'd end up doing because good luck finding a PS1 that still works, or a PS2/first-gen PS3 with a laser with enough integrity to read PS1 games. poo poo is instantaneous.
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If I have never played Person or SMT where's a good place to start? Hear they're great games.
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Captain Q posted:If I have never played Person or SMT where's a good place to start? Hear they're great games. Nocturne.
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Captain Q posted:If I have never played Person or SMT where's a good place to start? Hear they're great games. SMT: Nocturne, available on the PSN for like $10, cheaper on sale. Persona: Persona 3 or Persona 4, available in a variety of different forms. The best is either Persona 3 FES (updated port of the PS2 version, on the PSN) or P3 Portable (Vita/PSP. More and better content but uses Visual Novel style cutscenes instead.) If you go for P4 get P4 Golden for the Vita unless you don't have a choice, it is unambiguously the best version.
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Captain Q posted:If I have never played Person or SMT where's a good place to start? Hear they're great games. I think Digital Devil Saga is pretty accessible. Nocturne has been said and I agree, I just happen to like DDS a bit more. Nocturne is a silent protagonist with summoned demons as party members; DDS is all named party members (with a silent protagonist) who have demon forms and you unlock powers by buying upgrades.
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Continuing the SO5 reveal, a video was released. Not much in it besides the rather odd confirmation that they're keeping SO3 in the timeline. This game is NOT AFTER it. I wonder how that works out. They're going to run out of years that take place before SO3 at some point and then they're gonna be screwed because they'll have to deal with the repercussions of their weird twist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsqSLxSt68
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Apr 15, 2015 16:46
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Apr 15, 2015 16:51
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Star Ocean 5: Integrity and Faithlessness I'm sure the battle system will be good.
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Apparently SO4 took place in an alternate dimension from the previous games. This Japanese article supposedly confirms that. Also, read this post from Neogaf. It explains the game series' timeline and how the alternate dimensions could be used.
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Can't they just go "SO3 was in an alternate universe/never happened/was an MMO in a MMO" I'm sure folks wont miss it being removed from the timeline.
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Golden Goat posted:Can't they just go "SO3 was in an alternate universe/never happened/was an MMO in a MMO" I'm sure folks wont miss it being removed from the timeline. That's my feeling too. SO4 was fairly inconsequential to the universe so who cares if it's retconned out? SO3 had actual ramifications for the universe and that looks like it's still a thing.
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they're not declaring SO3 non-canon because it's the last game people liked in the series, but they're putting the game before it so they don't need to deal with the ramifications of SO3.
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What would be a good and fun Monster Rancher like clone now-a-days? Mostly I just want the trainer sim of setting up weekly schedules while having to balance stats with some type of arena style fights at different points.
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You can still like the game but that plot twist just fucks with everything. It'll go in one way or another.
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Mill Village posted:Apparently SO4 took place in an alternate dimension from the previous games. This Japanese article supposedly confirms that. That's actually kind of funny because at the time of Star Ocean 4's release I'm pretty sure the developers said Star Ocean 3 was in a different dimension from Star Ocean 1, 2 and 4. I guess 4 being so completely godawful made Tri-Ace change their minds.
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Cake Attack posted:they're not declaring SO3 non-canon because it's the last game people liked in the series, but they're putting the game before it so they don't need to deal with the ramifications of SO3. But that means it's still in the terrible universe of SO3, doesn't it? Maybe this time the final boss will be the DB Admin's intern.
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Halfway through SO5 the game just ends because the planet exploded. There we go, series canon aligned.
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Mill Village posted:Apparently SO4 took place in an alternate dimension from the previous games. This Japanese article supposedly confirms that. So SO4 was like a different server from SO3 or was it more like another MMO entirely?
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After skimming that article about Star Ocean V I'm now convinced this will crash and burn hideously. Seriously, there is no other possibility. Star Ocean had a good sequel and a passable third part, the rest is just trash. Without the interesting combat systems, this series wouldn't even exist. But if part V comes out and is actually successful, I'll eat a  and make a Let's Play out of the horrible German translation of Star Ocean: The Second Story. But let's stop joking, this won't happen. Star Ocean is dead.
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GrandpaPants posted:So SO4 was like a different server from SO3 or was it more like another MMO entirely? SO 4 was the adults only furry roleplay server of Eternal Sphere.
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I want Star Ocean to be good because I have a soft spot for sci-fi RPGs. They are so few and far between. I have a feeling that even if Xenoblade Chronicles X isn't as good a game as the first one, it'll still scratch that itch for sci-fi. EDIT: Star Ocean will be bad though. It wont be Sci-Fi either.
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Levantine posted:I want Star Ocean to be good because I have a soft spot for sci-fi RPGs. They are so few and far between. I have a feeling that even if Xenoblade Chronicles X isn't as good a game as the first one, it'll still scratch that itch for sci-fi. I'm trying to think, have there really been any sci-fi RPGs that took place during a straight-up 'golden age of humanity', so to speak? As in, no aliens, just human society evolved and developed to the logical extreme. Xenosaga is the only one I can think of, and I guess there's the opening video of Star Ocean 3 that kinda teases it but that's all I can think of. It really seems like it'd have some great visuals and make an amazing setting for a game.
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Levantine posted:I want Star Ocean to be good because I have a soft spot for sci-fi RPGs. They are so few and far between. I have a feeling that even if Xenoblade Chronicles X isn't as good a game as the first one, it'll still scratch that itch for sci-fi. They've already shown screencaps of the party in high-tech places.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I'm trying to think, have there really been any sci-fi RPGs that took place during a straight-up 'golden age of humanity', so to speak? As in, no aliens, just human society evolved and developed to the logical extreme. Xenosaga is the only one I can think of, and I guess there's the opening video of Star Ocean 3 that kinda teases it but that's all I can think of. There's Infinite Space for the DS. It has aliens, but 99,9% of the game deals with humans and human society.
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Libluini posted:After skimming that article about Star Ocean V I'm now convinced this will crash and burn hideously. In that article the developers admit SO4 was a huge fuckup and they want to correct the mistakes they made there. The people in charge of that game are not making this one, so there is some hope.
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The Valkyries pour in from the competitor's MMO and Fetal Cletus or w/e teams up with Lezard to go on a bug hunt. Suddenly Cletus finds he can't exit the game though, and neither can anyone else. Someone has played a sick joke and when people die in the MMo they die in RL. Everyone still has their sexy bits though so not all is lost! Star Ocean 5! Where you might go to space Uguuuuuu~
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There are many ways for SO5 to fall lower... All private actions take place inside one and the same room for the entire game. They all involve various degrees of peeking into the shower. One of the worlds is the home planet of the overly dramatic talkative race (like that circus NPC in SO3) where you will be told "fetch me a rat's rear end" in half an hour of unskippable dialogue. Elemental damage is explained in the first ten minutes of the game, in another hour you realize that 95% of enemies absorb or ignore elements, so your only tactic is "hit with stick". The final boss gets a party-wide instant kill attack, expanded in range and unavoidable in the PAL version. A no-magic Stone Age world takes up thirty hours of play time. Then you go to a space ship to get a sword, and return. The secret boss is the girl from Resonance of Fate wearing her Santa outfit and eternally stunlocking you with presents. Lightning returns.
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SelenicMartian posted:Lightning returns. we can only hope
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Cake Attack posted:we can only hope
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Crabtree posted:Between most companies that kill their franchises and those that pretend they never exist, I'll gladly take another release of Lunar for PC from a company at least knows what sells. It's better than getting another dragon song and then to hear nothing for another 5 years. Lunar 2 hasn't been ported to anything post PS1 though. I would live a good PC port of the Eternal Blue Complete version. Emulation works fine of course but Steam would be a fine platform for these retro RPGs. Oh, and a good Grandia 2 PC port would certainly be nice.
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Mill Village posted:In that article the developers admit SO4 was a huge fuckup and they want to correct the mistakes they made there. The people in charge of that game are not making this one, so there is some hope. i am going to register myself as 'cautiously optimistic' with this one. i really want a new star ocean that goes back to so2, and i'm willing to compromise and let so3 in. that video reminded me, however, of the parts i liked in so1 and 2. its the part where space age dude is stuck using primitive technology, although there is something high tech on, possibly being monkeyed with, by low tech people. seeing claude with just a normal sword got me super hype for that reason. i'd really like them to return to that, but that's a really specific niche, and those games already exist, so i'm not entirely sure that this will happen again.
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Cake Attack posted:they're not declaring SO3 non-canon because it's the last game people liked in the series, but they're putting the game before it so they don't need to deal with the ramifications of SO3. I admittedly don't know dick about Star Ocean but that article seems to say "it's not clear which is the parallel world and which is the real world." Something something about "The world was destroyed(?) in 3 and people thought that was the end of Star Ocean, but that was just a mock world created to be like a parallel universe, and which is the "true" Star Ocean world is not yet entirely clear so it doesn't mean everything is over." Given the contextual nature of Japanese I could be very well missing the point of that, given that it seems to assume prior knowledge of Star Ocean, (3 at least) of which I have none.
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Genpei Turtle posted:Given the contextual nature of Japanese I could be very well missing the point of that, given that it seems to assume prior knowledge of Star Ocean, (3 at least) of which I have none.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:I'm trying to think, have there really been any sci-fi RPGs that took place during a straight-up 'golden age of humanity', so to speak? As in, no aliens, just human society evolved and developed to the logical extreme. Xenosaga is the only one I can think of, and I guess there's the opening video of Star Ocean 3 that kinda teases it but that's all I can think of. Mass Effect takes place during a golden age but there are aliens so...
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SelenicMartian posted:SO3 decided to reveal that the entire series takes place in an MMO, which gets erased and somehow un-erased in the ending the same way the ending of FFVIII worked. That's...an interesting tack to take I guess. Then again, from what I've picked up from this thread seems to suggest that Star Ocean is an entirely different beast nowadays from what I remember. My sole exposure to the series was the first game, which I played on my host family's Super Famicom in Japan back in 1996. It was a fairly generic, if fun, fantasy RPG with some sci-fi elements. But what I hear now is things about spaceships and anime and pedophilia and catgirls. Though I guess the first Star Ocean had catgirls too, as the one thing that stood out to me is that they made the cast Felpurrs, the cat-person race that they straight-up stole from Wizardry.
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SO4 was directed by Mitsuo Iwao, who wanted to make porno games. He has not made any games since. The previous games were directed Yoshiharu Gotanda, and there was no pedophilia in those games. They were just Star Trek inspired anime style dramas.
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