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Ev
Aug 3, 2006

Shumagorath posted:

Mine was done quickly but I'm not really keen on installing updates that don't describe themselves.

That was kind of my reaction to owning an iPad for a week, but apart from having a platform Amazon didn't treat like poo poo I don't find myself longing for particular apps; just better support for the existing WP versions. Aside from e-mail I don't use any Google or Apple services so if they're going to refuse to legitimize the platform by writing first-party apps for things like iTunes and Maps it's their loss, not mine.

I haven't check if there's an update for my 1520 but I've seen some post on some blog (Windows Central maybe?) about 8.1 Update 2, although I have no idea what it changes. Is that what you got?

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Shumagorath posted:

That was kind of my reaction to owning an iPad for a week, but apart from having a platform Amazon didn't treat like poo poo I don't find myself longing for particular apps; just better support for the existing WP versions. Aside from e-mail I don't use any Google or Apple services so if they're going to refuse to legitimize the platform by writing first-party apps for things like iTunes and Maps it's their loss, not mine.

One of the things that's impressed me with Windows Phone is the way they've sidestepped a lack of apps for certain websites by letting you create live tiles for them instead. I don't have a Steam app, but pinning the website gives me the correct logo and live updates on deals, which the iOS app doesn't do (it does notifications for wishlist deals, but not store front deals). Same with DeviantArt. Some sites only give you the logo and others give you nothing, but it's neat when it happens all the same.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

One of the things that's impressed me with Windows Phone is the way they've sidestepped a lack of apps for certain websites by letting you create live tiles for them instead. I don't have a Steam app, but pinning the website gives me the correct logo and live updates on deals, which the iOS app doesn't do (it does notifications for wishlist deals, but not store front deals). Same with DeviantArt. Some sites only give you the logo and others give you nothing, but it's neat when it happens all the same.

That's neat. How do that do that? Tap into feeds or something? I don't have a WP, so I'm curious on how that works.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Ev posted:

I haven't check if there's an update for my 1520 but I've seen some post on some blog (Windows Central maybe?) about 8.1 Update 2, although I have no idea what it changes. Is that what you got?
It was just "Update for Lumia phones" or something completely nondescript.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

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loquacius posted:

That's cool, didn't know that worked :tipshat: Does it still auto-launch iTunes every time you plug it in and bug you to update it all the time, though?

I uninstalled it or just closed it every time, I forget. Never was a problem.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Shumagorath posted:

Can't wait for that new flagship.
Rumors about an (inevitable?) Lumia 940 started. Some stuff about a regular and XL version, as well as a 24-25MP sensor.

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

Wow, and I thought the comments on windowscentral got hostile!

http://www.ktul.com/story/28827848/tulsa-roommates-stab-each-other-over-debate-between-iphone-samsung

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


A metaphor for Something Awful in general

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
<img src="https://forumimages.somethingawful.com/images/newbie.gif" border=0>

"Police did not respond when our photographer asked which phone is better"


:lol::lol::lol:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I'm reminded of that Lumia commercial with the wedding

In this hypothetical ad the photographer is taking professional-grade pictures for his job at ABC News Tulsa on his NokiaTM Lumia 1020 (c)

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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loquacius posted:

I'm reminded of that Lumia commercial with the wedding

In this hypothetical ad the photographer is taking professional-grade pictures for his job at ABC News Tulsa on his NokiaTM Lumia 1020 (c)

Then their boss sees the pictures and goes "Why are they so blurry? We can't use these! You're fired Jones!"

I'm assuming the photographers name is "Jones", first or last, I don't care.

Alternative pants
Nov 2, 2009

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.


I love my 1020, but there is just no way to take spontaneous pictures and have them look even halfway decent.

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

Alternative pants posted:

I love my 1020, but there is just no way to take spontaneous pictures and have them look even halfway decent.

In other words, the one camera thing neurotypicals actually care about. :cripes:

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

LifeSizePotato posted:

In other words, the one camera thing neurotypicals actually care about. :cripes:

wtf is a neurotypical

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

ElGroucho posted:

wtf is a neurotypical

Internet slang for "normal people who don't sperg about their phone's spec sheets," gramps.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Not to say that the camera lag can't be a bit annoying, because it can, but I don't think the 1020 was ever intended for "camera neurotypicals." :v:

future ghost
Dec 5, 2005

:byetankie:
Gun Saliva
From reading this thread, wasn't the 1020 basically sold (*theoretically) on its camera? If it can't take decent pictures under slightly-non-ideal settings what's the point of attaching what was supposed to be a higher-quality camera?

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

Not to say that the camera lag can't be a bit annoying, because it can, but I don't think the 1020 was ever intended for "camera neurotypicals." :v:

Windows Phone: it was never intended for neurotypicals

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

cisco privilege posted:

From reading this thread, wasn't the 1020 basically sold (*theoretically) on its camera? If it can't take decent pictures under slightly-non-ideal settings what's the point of attaching what was supposed to be a higher-quality camera?

Having the indisputable best phone camera could have been a genuinely compelling feature for normies, but MS and Nokia had to screw it up with a bunch of lag and poorly optimized default settings. At the time, it technically did have the best capability, but you had to spend 30 seconds dicking around with the settings for each shot and saving it as a RAW file to get anything impressive out of it.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



That's why I like camera 360 sight on my 925, fast and nice pics if you don't use HDR. My S4 camera with google camera is really fast aswell.

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

Guillermus posted:

That's why I like camera 360 sight on my 925, fast and nice pics if you don't use HDR. My S4 camera with google camera is really fast aswell.

That is a pretty great app, surprised I hadn't heard of it before.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



It is great on Android too. The WP version has nice swipe gestures to access all quick settings and takes a few seconds to set up a shot properly.

MobMentality
Aug 22, 2007

I'm Mike Doyle.

RVProfootballer posted:

Windows Phone: it was never intended for neurotypicals

I'm pretty typical. I care about good battery, pretty screens, rich colors, responsive UI, and a dope camera. If they can fake any of those with software or do it with hardware I really don't care.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

LifeSizePotato posted:

Having the indisputable best phone camera could have been a genuinely compelling feature for normies

So do you consider yourself some sort of ubermensch of technology or some poo poo? Because that is delightfully goony

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

ElGroucho posted:

So do you consider yourself some sort of ubermensch of technology or some poo poo? Because that is delightfully goony

Actually, what's goony is that that upset you for some reason.

Normal people would like to buy a phone with an awesome, fast camera that takes perfect pictures instantly = lol some goony rear end poo poo, goon sire, 5 golden man babies!!

LifeSizePotato fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Apr 19, 2015

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Doesn't upset me, makes me chuckle sensibly at goons thinking Grandma El Groucho and me don't want the same things on our phone... apps, a good camera, and a new phone every 2 years.

edit: nm, this, MS10 and audiophile thread are basically the only threads you post on, you win, oh King of Dweebs

ElGroucho fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Apr 19, 2015

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

ElGroucho posted:

Doesn't upset me, makes me chuckle sensibly at goons thinking Grandma El Groucho and me don't want the same things on our phone... apps, a good camera, and a new phone every 2 years.

Where did I say that you, Sir Goonfred of Goonshire, don't want a good camera like grandma does?

All I said was that if the 1040 had a legitimately great camera that took perfect photos instantly, it wouldn't have been as much of a niche product. As it stood, it only appealed to photography and WP nerds who didn't mind messing with settings for each photo.

quote:

edit: nm, this, MS10 and audiophile thread are basically the only threads you post on, you win, oh King of Dweebs

owned so hard

edit:

lol at the literal autist (el groucho) who bought me this:



fyi, i was speaking ironically on the something awful comedy forums. "normies" is from family guy for pete's sake.

LifeSizePotato fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 19, 2015

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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Just in case anyone thought I forgot about this thread



Lumia 1520 and my brand new Dell XPS 13 :3:



It's still kinda crappy (the padding looks weird) but it's getting there. At least the avatars should not be LOL huge anymore. And again, the bigger the device, the more space it will give the image/title text. So it should scale nicely.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Drastic Actions posted:

Just in case anyone thought I forgot about this thread



Lumia 1520 and my brand new Dell XPS 13 :3:



It's still kinda crappy (the padding looks weird) but it's getting there. At least the avatars should not be LOL huge anymore. And again, the bigger the device, the more space it will give the image/title text. So it should scale nicely.

Dang, that is pretty rad

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

Pretty interesting article about MS moving away from metro.

https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/windows-phone/3000/ex-microsoft-designer-explains-the-move-away-from-metro

beuges
Jul 4, 2005
fluffy bunny butterfly broomstick

I can live with pivots and panoramas going away based on the explanation that swiping through 5 screens to get where you want to go isn't usable. But what is really disappointing with the UX on the WP10 build I have on my Lumia 820 is the seeming obsession with cloning iOS with the theming, not navigation. The round profile pics and rounded on/off switches look absolutely terrible and out of place in an OS built around square, flat controls. For all it's other faults, WP8/8.1 is at least visually consistent and looks great. There's very little I like with the WP10 theme at all.
They could move away from the pivots and navigation used in Metro while still keeping the look and feel, but sadly it seems to be the norm for MS to implement awesome features only to kill them in the next iteration due to whatever idiotic metrics they use.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

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beuges posted:

but sadly it seems to be the norm for MS to implement awesome features only to kill them in the next iteration due to whatever idiotic metrics they use.

Caring what users say is the metric, and I completely agree that they should stop. Consistently always using those disliked releases, ME to Vista to 8x, even before, I know Microsoft's biggest challenge with operating systems is the fickle, dilettante bitches who literally love things they used to diarrhea about the moment Microsoft doesn't budge and keeps a feature around for a second release.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh
Are they going to keep the in-app animations for stuff like Mail? Minor thing obviously but I likes it.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction
Navigation is the part of iOS I hate the most. Metro cracked that problem with pivots, and now that WP is dead we'll have to go through another whole generation of UX design before someone at Apple reintroduces pivots in iOS 15 and the rest of the world follows along. Then og metro fans will be like today's BeOS crybabies.

cougar cub
Jun 28, 2004

LifeSizePotato posted:

Having the indisputable best phone camera could have been a genuinely compelling feature for normies, but MS and Nokia had to screw it up with a bunch of lag and poorly optimized default settings. At the time, it technically did have the best capability, but you had to spend 30 seconds dicking around with the settings for each shot and saving it as a RAW file to get anything impressive out of it.

I have a 1020, what settings should be changed?

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

cougar cub posted:

I have a 1020, what settings should be changed?

Depends. Are you happy with how your quick snapshots turn out? In my experience it would depend on the photo - changing ISO, focus, white balance, etc., which is why it was annoying that the iPhone could just get it right no matter what the scenario. It often came down to the JPG processing and color settings, too.

The newest Lumia camera app is much improved from what I've seen, being faster and more accurate all around.

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

The Windows Phone app situation in a nutshell:

quote:

One of our readers reached out to Delta Airlines to offer his thoughts on the Fly Delta app and received a response via email:

quote:

"Thank you also for reporting these issues. Unfortunately, we have not been updating the app for Windows Phones because the usage level is less that 1% of the total app usage. There are no plans to update it in the near future. We regret any inconvenience and frustration this may have caused."

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Hi. I bought a Windows Phone for $20 to simply be a music player and it sucks at that because trying to copy any music over MTP takes 8 billion years and the music player app keeps getting corrupted and any time I click on a song it takes like 20 minutes to actually play it and also when the song ends there's this awkward "crrHHCCCZT" at full volume.

Did Microsoft ever test this piece of poo poo before they released it?

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Oh also there's this dumb UI design where there's small amounts of random buttons on the right side so if I slight the right side of my phone at all when playing music it will just randomly switch to another song because they forgot to disable the random buttons when you cannot even see them.

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Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

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Suspicious Dish posted:

Hi. I bought a Windows Phone for $20 to simply be a music player.

You bought a Windows Phone for music playback :roflolmao:

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