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That would be pretty great. If we manage to popularize tracker blockers and noscript well enough seeing javascript and trackers fall out of use would be even more delightful.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol moral quandary I wonder if billboard advertisers get as pissed when a car passenger is reading a book as Internet advertisers do about adblocking. and I bet there was much whining when ir tv remotes with mute, channel, and power buttons started becoming standard
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Apr 22, 2015 14:51
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Apr 22, 2015 14:53
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calling pagancow we need pagancow on the scene of this thread stat
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Apr 22, 2015 15:09
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youtube update: now they have decided that i want to see some #gamergate dude's videos. i saw some video in the related videos of several other (non-gaming related) videos i was watching. i clicked it just to see what the hell it was. it was some rant about some article on some gaming website. i clicked thumbs down and closed the tab. now youtube is showing me several of the dude's videos in the related videos section. 
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annapacketstormaya posted:calling pagancow we need pagancow on the scene of this thread stat yeah, 45 all caps angry contrived posts no one will read and some worn out meme gifs sure sounds good about now
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LastInLine posted:it legit bothers me how often i agree with posts by The Management and its purely due to the username I registered this account intending to do a whole gimmick but never followed through. bad posting is my only gimmick now.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:25
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol moral quandary
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The Merkinman posted:I hope adblocking gets even more popular so every site on the Internet is forced to have a paywall. me too, then poo poo like buzzfeed and its million idiot cousins will immediately die
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Apr 22, 2015 15:40
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I'm fine with other people viewing ads and subsidizing my ad-free viewing
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Apr 22, 2015 15:40
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except it's going to turn into free-2-view websites where the first half of the listicle is free and you only need to PAY 0.005 BUZZCOINS TO CONTINUE! ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: BUZZFEED SUPPORTER GOLD STAR ULTIMATE USER CLICK HERE TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS!! [BUZZFEED INSIDERS] [FACEBOOK] [TWITTER] AND GET 0.0001 BUZZCOINS DON'T BE OUT OF THE LOOP, TOP UP YOUR BUZZCOINS! 1 BUZZCOIN ($400) BEST DEAL!!!
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Apr 22, 2015 15:43
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only with vr headsets you can't remove until the ads are finished
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Wheany posted:youtube update: now they have decided that i want to see some #gamergate dude's videos. i saw some video in the related videos of several other (non-gaming related) videos i was watching. i clicked it just to see what the hell it was. it was some rant about some article on some gaming website. i clicked thumbs down and closed the tab. lol look at this guy visiting youtube while logged in e: its not like the annoyance settings (autoplay on, annotations on) actually follow your account so why bother logging in Progressive JPEG fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 16:05
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:only with vr headsets you can't remove until the ads are finished enter the 4 digit code we randomly embedded in the audio track of this video
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:except it's going to turn into free-2-view websites where the first half of the listicle is free and you only need to PAY 0.005 BUZZCOINS TO CONTINUE! people have been predicting this for literally 20 years. (of course, most of them were breathlessly exclaiming how GOOD it was going to be and huffing their own farts.) fortunately, it will never, ever happen. it flies in the face of everything we know about human nature. when you get down to prices under a dollar, the effort of deciding whether to pay for something costs as much as actually paying for it. micropayments are a total non-starter because 99.9% of customers will just say flat, no, not even going to think about it. if you charge on an article-by-article basis, you will find your content is not valuable enough for people to invest the time in debating whether to pay for it
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true eg i hardly ever buy paid apps, even if theyre just a dollar meanwhile i never put much thought into the cost of menu items when eating out
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plus you get the effect of someone hating an article/thinking it's too short/etc and being pissed they spent money on it but then seeing a good article and not thinking "hey that was totally worth 8 cents"
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Progressive JPEG posted:true eg i hardly ever buy paid apps, even if theyre just a dollar apps are where small amount nuts of money make sense tho, because you actually get to keep something, unlike an article
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theflyingexecutive posted:apps are where small amount nuts of money make sense tho, because you actually get to keep something, unlike an article you don't keep the information or analysis you read in a good article?
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The Management posted:you don't keep the information or analysis you read in a good article? not with this crippling benzo addiction
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theflyingexecutive posted:plus you get the effect of someone hating an article/thinking it's too short/etc and being pissed they spent money on it but then seeing a good article and not thinking "hey that was totally worth 8 cents" if only there was a curation mechanism for articles to make them mostly good, a sort of compendium of writings. magazines used to do this. today, the people I follow on Twitter do.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:people have been predicting this for literally 20 years. (of course, most of them were breathlessly exclaiming how GOOD it was going to be and huffing their own farts.) i just love the articles about it (from 1998) " Some analysts say that users don't want to be "nickeled and dimed" while they are online. In fact, the problem is being dimed; not being nickeled. Unfortunately, some sites that currently charge for content do so at a level of a dollar or more per page. Such pricing is obviously unpleasant and will only be acceptable for highly value-added content that users can predict in advance that they will benefit significantly from buying. Regular articles (like this column) cannot be that expensive. Long-distance telephone calls and electricity are both metered services. Many people do feel a tension while they are on the phone, at least while making an international or other expensive call. At the same time, very few people worry about powering a lightbulb, even though doing so costs a few cents per hour. Electricity charges mainly serve to make people turn off the lights when they go to bed. The difference is clearly in the level of pricing: less than a cent per minute and people use as much as they need (electricity) 10 cents per minute, and people ration their usage a little (long distance phone calls) 40 cents per minute, and people ration their usage a lot (international calls) " " On the Web, users should not worry about a cent per page. If a page is not worth a cent, then you should not download it in the first place. Even as the Web grows in importance in the future, most people will probably access less than 100 non-free pages per day (in June 1998, heavy users visited an average of 46 pages per day). Most users will have $10-$30 in monthly service charges for Web content. During working hours, it is easy to calculate the value of a user's time. If we assume that various overhead costs are about the same as a person's salary, then somebody making $35,000 per year costs their company a cent per second. In other words, every time you access a Web page, it costs your company ten cents just for having you sit and wait while it downloads (assuming that the page design obeys the 10-second response time limit). Add time to actually read the page, and we are looking at a cost of 25 cents to a dollar every time an employee accesses a Web page (with proportionally larger costs for highly-paid staff). In this context, paying a cent (or a few cents) for the content is nothing if it ensures higher-quality pages. Simply waiting for a typical banner ad to download costs about 3 cents in lost employee time, so that could be a possible value of ad-free pages. Of course, much Web access occurs during off-duty hours where people's time is harder to value. But if people value their free time at a third of their working time, then even leisure browsers should be willing to pay a cent to avoid an ad. " " Even if authors and search engines do link to a subscription site, users will never go there because the cost of signing up for a subscription and the time needed to do so cannot be justified for the sake of a single desired page. Thus, the site never gets visited by the user; it also never gets the chance to prove its value to that user and convert him or her into a loyal, repeat visitor. In contrast, charging a micro-fee will not prevent links. Presumably, there will be a way for reputable search engines to spider a micro-charging site for free since most sites want to be found. A human author would not be deterred from linking to a fee-based page: if you don't think that a page would be worth a few cents to your readers, then you should not recommend it in the first place. " "It is likely that there will be mechanisms for pre-paid links. If, for example, a movie site wanted to refer users to a particularly favorable review on a certain newspaper's site, then it could use a special, digitally signed, link that would authorize the newspaper to charge the micro-fee to the movie site and not to the user. Users would thus be encouraged to follow the link and read the favorable review. "
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Progressive JPEG posted:true eg i hardly ever buy paid apps, even if theyre just a dollar this has more to do w/ the fact that people still dont like to pay for digital goods would you pay for a digital dinner? didnt think so
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Nintendo Kid posted:On the Web, users should not worry about a cent per page. If a page is not worth a cent, then you should not download it in the first place. somebody in the '90s thought users would have a conscious choice about downloading web pages, you won't believe what happened next
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Wheany posted:youtube update: now they have decided that i want to see some #gamergate dude's videos. i saw some video in the related videos of several other (non-gaming related) videos i was watching. i clicked it just to see what the hell it was. it was some rant about some article on some gaming website. i clicked thumbs down and closed the tab. somehow i get recommendations for greek soap operas every other video 
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Wheany posted:youtube update: now they have decided that i want to see some #gamergate dude's videos. i saw some video in the related videos of several other (non-gaming related) videos i was watching. i clicked it just to see what the hell it was. it was some rant about some article on some gaming website. i clicked thumbs down and closed the tab. i watched a steven universe video and now the exact same video is recommended after every single video i view i mean it was good but theres limits
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Apr 22, 2015 18:00
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anthonypants posted:lol if you sign in to watch youtube
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i just sign into chrome with my goog account and it keeps everything else signed in theres one feature i really want in youtube and that is the ability to search through my video history, its still not possible and i dont know who to shout at it to make it happen
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Apr 22, 2015 18:22
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I just sign into my browser made by an advertising company
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:I just sign into my browser made by an advertising company when i sign into any chrome browser on any machine, it remembers the plguins i have installed and automatically downloads and runs adblock why are you so afraid of ads?
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Valeyard posted:i just sign into chrome with my goog account and it keeps everything else signed in this and more robust searching in general. the goog is literally *the* search company and youtube's search is garbage
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Valeyard posted:when i sign into any chrome browser on any machine, it remembers the plguins i have installed and automatically downloads and runs adblock I just sign into a browser made by an advertising company on any machine
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Necc0 posted:this and more robust searching in general. the goog is literally *the* search company and youtube's search is garbage sarch in google prodiucts that isn't their main search box tends to be terrible
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A Pinball Wizard posted:i watched a steven universe video and now the exact same video is recommended after every single video i view finish watching fartzmaster part 6, recommended videos: fartzmaster part 5, fartzmaster part 4, fartzmaster part 2 , some angry gamergate dude also the annotation and autoplay setting have actually worked for me lately, which is really surprising
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Cocoa Crispies posted:sarch in google prodiucts that isn't their main search box tends to be terrible yeah, youtube search refuses to remember any filters, google search remembers filters just fine. and some times i think youtube search returns videos where some of the search terms appeared in the related videos or something. not the actual video though.
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remember when related videos meant videos related to what you were watching and now it just sprinkles in videos related to anything you've ever watched
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:I just sign into a browser made by an advertising company on any machine google owns
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Wheany posted:finish watching fartzmaster part 1, recommended videos: fartzmaster part 5, fartsmaester part 1, fartzmaster part 7 , some angry gamergate dude fixt
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