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Main Paineframe posted:Melt them? I dunno where you're getting your figures from but all my research papers (can't link them they're behind an extremely expensive pay wall that you can't afford) estimate that a single microwave power plant will cost approx. 28,000$ dollars and output 1,600MW. Again, this is out of date so I expect that the real cost will be lower by now. Gavrilo Princip posted:I'm currently working in this field, what exactly do you want to know? Working power plants are a long way off, although a functioning prototype (the DEMO reactor) is the next phase of development after ITER. Current timescales put DEMO at around 15-20 years after ITER begins operation (which should happen within a few years). Notional plants maybe 10-15 years after that. Not the most hopeful timescale, it's true, but speaking with a decent knowledge of the current state of the field, it is likely to actually happen. How safe are they? In spider-man 2 the miniature sun they create gets out of control and I think Dr. Octopus has to sacrifice himself to stop it from growing and destroying the planet. Are fusion reactors more or less dangerous than nuclear? Would you say an out of control fusion reaction is more or less likely than the microwave energy tube breaking/bending?? Thanks.
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JohnGalt posted:Why don't we take the poor and put them into self contained pods which harvest their electrical energy and place their minds into a simulation of earth. Best Username/Post Combo. Frykte posted:I dunno where you're getting your figures from but all my research papers (can't link them they're behind an extremely expensive pay wall that you can't afford) estimate that a single microwave power plant will cost approx. 28,000$ dollars and output 1,600MW. Again, this is out of date so I expect that the real cost will be lower by now. BULLSHIT. Bullshit. Bullshit. Frykte posted:How safe are they? In spider-man 2 the miniature sun they create gets out of control and I think Dr. Octopus has to sacrifice himself to stop it from growing and destroying the planet. Are fusion reactors more or less dangerous than nuclear? Would you say an out of control fusion reaction is more or less likely than the microwave energy tube breaking/bending?? Thanks. It is nuclear. Fusion is nuclear. Fission is Nuclear. They are both nuclear. Also, your tube idea is hilarious and also bullshit.
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CommieGIR posted:BULLSHIT. Bullshit. Bullshit. GameFAQs for SimCity2000 posted:-MICROWAVE POWER-
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Frykte posted:I dunno where you're getting your figures from but all my research papers (can't link them they're behind an extremely expensive pay wall that you can't afford) estimate that a single microwave power plant will cost approx. 28,000$ dollars and output 1,600MW. Again, this is out of date so I expect that the real cost will be lower by now. loving lol you can't be serious
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Frykte posted:I dunno where you're getting your figures from but all my research papers (can't link them they're behind an extremely expensive pay wall that you can't afford) estimate that a single microwave power plant will cost approx. 28,000$ dollars and output 1,600MW. Again, this is out of date so I expect that the real cost will be lower by now. Plus irradiation is permanent.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 23:08 |
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Ohhhh he got us.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 23:28 |
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drat. Well, I guess we'd better start construction and cut funding to public infrastructure ASAP. Y'know, before another disaster hits.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 23:37 |
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To be fair to the OP I did always skip to fusion.
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 23:40 |
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Click this thread for one weird trick to generate energy the central bankers don't want you to know about
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 23:44 |
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How about blasting it with tachyon particles?
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Frykte posted:Read the entire thread before replying please. It won't hurt the atmosphere because it's either going through a tube for the length of the atmosphere, or a metal rod will make a path for the microwaves. Wait, you're going to build a loving space elevator and all you're going to do with it is use your bullshit energy generation technology from SImCity 2000? BTW, the materials required to make a space elevator don't exist and may never exist. It ain't gonna be metal either. Also if your 35,785-kilometer bullwhip to the heavens breaks, what's going to happen to the earth? E: Oh wow he really did take this straight from SimCity 2000. Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Frykte posted:I dunno where you're getting your figures from but all my research papers (can't link them they're behind an extremely expensive pay wall that you can't afford) estimate that a single microwave power plant will cost approx. 28,000$ dollars and output 1,600MW. Again, this is out of date so I expect that the real cost will be lower by now. If you can't identify trolling by a statement like this, you are basically braindead.
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Zodium posted:If you can't identify trolling by a statement like this, you are basically braindead. I thought people figure it out by the first post
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# ? Apr 21, 2015 21:43 |
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Zeitgueist posted:I thought people figure it out by the first post Debate and Discussion.
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Woolie Wool posted:Wait, you're going to build a loving space elevator and all you're going to do with it is use your bullshit energy generation technology from SImCity 2000? Yeah you better call my 3rd grade teacher and tell her to change my A+ grade for my report about ants based entirely on Sim Ant because video games can't possibly be scientifically accurate, right?
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CommieGIR posted:Debate and Discussion. ...but if we take this obvious troll seriously, and then debunk his position, we will have accomplished...
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# ? Apr 21, 2015 22:26 |
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blowfish posted:...but if we take this obvious troll seriously, and then debunk his position, we will have accomplished... I will actually say that I was quite surprised by some of the information people posted, and I'm actually glad somebody made this dumb thread. This is one of those dumb science fiction ideas that gets tossed around a little bit sometimes, and it's pretty stunning how stupid it actually is on every single level. From the sheer cost, to the possibility of devastation caused by the microwave beam, to the impossibility of actually providing enough usable electricity... I think this thread was worth it.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 07:22 |
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Did people not actually get that this was a SimCity 2000 thing from the first post?
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Pope Guilty posted:Did people not actually get that this was a SimCity 2000 thing from the first post? The authors of the SimCity 2000 instruction manual used solid peer reviewed scientific research for the sections on water systems and power plants. Nobody in this thread has actually refuted using a tube to get microwave energy past the atmosphere.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 07:44 |
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Alpha Centauri had a much sounder scientific basis than SimCity and it placed Orbital Power Transmitters after fusion in the tech tree so hold your drat horses, OP.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 07:54 |
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The latest SimCity has poop agents to handle all your fecal transference needs.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 07:59 |
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CommieGIR posted:I'm saying pouring MEGAWATTS of energy through the atmosphere is a terrible idea, regardless of giant metal rods or giant tubes. This. A sustainable model of star energy collection was already proposed back in the sixties by way of Dyson Spheres/Swarms: Fucktons of radiation panels put up close to and around a star (in our case, the sun), but the technology to do so still eludes us. Especially since, if we blocked off the sun, we'd have to go live on the habitat we'd build around it, and that's kinda hard too.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 08:03 |
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Where on the tech tree is it?
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 01:54 |
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I support this endeavour OP because it can be easily repurposed into a death ray to vapourise poor brown people.
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Phobophilia posted:I support this endeavour OP because it can be easily repurposed into a death ray to vapourise poor brown people. That's the neutron bomb, jeez
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 03:07 |
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Can the satellite beam be aimed with enough accuracy to reliably take down the giant alien/monster thingy? I could support that.
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Pope Guilty posted:That's the neutron bomb, jeez Ah, but can you neutron bomb people from orbit? I think not sir.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 03:30 |
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its actually space illegal to have weapons of mass destruction in orbit
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Phobophilia posted:Ah, but can you neutron bomb people from orbit? I think not sir. If your cyberpunk future doesn't have neutron bomb rods from god I don't want to live in it.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Could we, say, construct a graphene space windmill to harvest the energy of the solar winds? Theoretically, of course. How would you keep it from just acting as a solar sail?
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 05:18 |
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You just need to drop a space anchor on earth from orbit.
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Phobophilia posted:You just need to drop a space anchor on earth from orbit. great now we're spinning the earth
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blowfish posted:great now we're spinning the earth WE'LL BE FLUNG INTO THE HEAVENS
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 09:33 |
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Put sails and a rudder on earth, turning it into a giant spaceship? Now this is something I can get behind.
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JohnGalt posted:Put sails and a rudder on earth, turning it into a giant spaceship? Add some continent-sized fusion engines.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Click this thread for one weird trick to generate energy the central bankers don't want you to know about it's just a link to "Chain Reaction" it's the movie "Chain Reaction" starring Keanu Reeves and Morgan Freeman
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 15:07 |
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So im envisioning the space weapon system from cod ghosts except instead of tungsten rods it shoots energy down instead
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:So im envisioning the space weapon system from cod ghosts except instead of tungsten rods it shoots energy down instead In the future, barbecues will be . Attach GPS device to cow, wait for microwave satellite to take aim and fire.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 15:30 |
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Realtalk my crazy grandfather still believes that this is the solution to our energy crisis and would occasionally launch into rants about either this strategy or a plan involving magnets rolling in a metal tube to generate free energy. I; having just played Sim City was all "But Grampa what if it misses?"
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The projected maximum payload for Falcon Heavy is 53 metric tons to LEO, but only 19 metric tons to a geostationary transfer orbit! We'll be generous again and assume that this ratio applies to the final payload to geostationary orbit itself. This effectively raises our launch cost by a factor of at least 2.8, meaning it would cost about 3.1 billion dollars - again, this is only to lift the mass of the solar arrays into orbit. This doesn't cover actually building a modular solar array satellite bigger than the International Space Station, nor does it cover building the receiving antenna or power infrastructure on the ground. Better hope you can design it to be remotely assembled without a human presence, because manned missions will rapidly inflate your costs too.
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