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(softly, as though from a great distance) Newt! Newt! Newt! Newt!
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Apr 24, 2015 00:27
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paranoid randroid posted:I want to know who the 3% that chose "none of the above" are holding out for. The gang's all here, guys. There's no more clowns we can stuff in this particular Volkswagen. Pence, Snyder, Mitt, Gilmore.
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Dunno if I'd be more excited to see Bolton or Palin on the debate stage.
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Apr 24, 2015 00:45
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Let's be real though, Bring Back Sky Admiral Bachmann
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Also, these polling firms should really include Vermin Supreme. I mean, if you're including Donald Trump, you don't have an excuse to exclude anyone and Vermin goes to the trouble of actually getting on the ballot.
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Apr 24, 2015 00:49
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... and then when JEB fails a third ballot at the convention WHAM!! Jon Huntsman from out of nowhere on a brokered unity ticket!!!
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paranoid randroid posted:I want to know who the 3% that chose "none of the above" are holding out for. The gang's all here, guys. There's no more clowns we can stuff in this particular Volkswagen. 
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Apr 24, 2015 00:53
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He was in the poll. Got 2%. Unless you mean the dog, in which case I endorse. That Dog 2016 
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The dog. e:b
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radical meme posted:So is the story about Hillary personally benefiting from a bribe to sell America's uranium to the Russians and then single handedly approving the sale on behalf of America going to have legs or not. It's what every talking head on the radio was on about today. After the Republicans have cried wolf over every imaginable scandal regarding the Clintons, I don't know what it'd take to actually stick anymore. Something daring and juicy like a covered-up murder? Yawn, yeah right, been done. A sex scandal? Didn't work last time. Something dull and technical like the email thing? Already forgotten about it, put it on the pile. Some kind of conspiracy? Tighten up that tinfoil, Benghazi-buddy. There's just no kind of scandal regarding the Clintons we haven't seen a dozen times before, people are jaded and go into them assuming it's a mountain from a molehill and not worth paying attention to. The most I can imagine is that once the campaign proper is underway and the average voter is paying attention to politics again, campaign scandals like Mitt Romney's 47% comment might matter. Hillary still has some weaknesses, it just probably helps that anyone she'll be up against has as many or more. Obama's debates were must-watch TV and I think the same will be true for Hillary's. If it's her vs. Bush the Iraq issue alone is going to make for some convoluted answers.
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paranoid randroid posted:I want to know who the 3% that chose "none of the above" are holding out for. The gang's all here, guys. There's no more clowns we can stuff in this particular Volkswagen. Honestly I suspect the answer is 
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oldswitcheroo posted:Well, he's term limited so he can't run for Governor again. And though he would probably carry Louisiana in a potential presidential general election, I seriously doubt his ability to win as a favorite son candidate in a primary. And if he can't carry his home state in the primary.... he's not getting to the general. A dead cat running as a Republican would win Louisiana.
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Apr 24, 2015 01:23
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Gravel Gravy posted:Surprised he even got that much punishment given how Jack Bauer the establishment was in those days. The armed services were never as down with that stuff as the intelligence community and the executive branch, According to reports about Abu Ghraib, for example, a lot of the misconduct by those soldiers was actually them imitating the CIA personnel they were working with. And of course a bunch of them got scapegoated and wrecked under the UCMJ. The Allen West thing happened rather early in the occupation. He was drummed out in November 2003. The situation from the perspective of higher-ups is you have a colonel ordering his men to kidnap and torture a random Iraqi policeman, and then he personally mock executes the guy. As a bonus, the Iraqi was innocent and knew nothing. So first off, West is an erratic idiot. Even just on that basis you maybe don't want him in a command position--he's a danger to civilians and to his men. Second, he is not being a good example to his subordinates and other officers. You have to let them know that being that guy gets you canned, so don't be that guy. Third, the Iraqis and in particular the Iraqi cops knew what he did. That's going to [A] piss them off because he tortured a guy and [B] arouse their contempt because he even hosed that up. You're gonna have to work with those people in the future. So they kinda had to can him. As to the establishment being Jack Bauer fans, that didn't save his career but it did get him placed in a new one. He got a lot of positive press in the conservative media for what he did, and how it got him fired (durn liberal pussies). He parlayed that buzz into his political career. Straight up, people voted for him because he tortured an Arab for no good reason.
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paranoid randroid posted:I want to know who the 3% that chose "none of the above" are holding out for. The gang's all here, guys. There's no more clowns we can stuff in this particular Volkswagen. rockefeller republicans who keep forgetting to change their registration
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EvanSchenck posted:As to the establishment being Jack Bauer fans, that didn't save his career but it did get him placed in a new one. He got a lot of positive press in the conservative media for what he did, and how it got him fired (durn liberal pussies). He parlayed that buzz into his political career. Straight up, people voted for him because he tortured an Arab for no good reason. 9/11 is a hell of a drug  
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paranoid randroid posted:I want to know who the 3% that chose "none of the above" are holding out for. The gang's all here, guys. There's no more clowns we can stuff in this particular Volkswagen. They long for "generic Republican"
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paranoid randroid posted:I want to know who the 3% that chose "none of the above" are holding out for. The gang's all here, guys. There's no more clowns we can stuff in this particular Volkswagen. Bolton is missing from that list  E: goddamnit Joe
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By the way, Rand Paul has said this week that he's "heard about" and is "looking into" the situation with the Walmart closures. Want to know about about this? Well, here's a video from Alex Jones about how this is a conspiracy to link up Walmarts using underground tunnels for the military to turn the stores into FEMA deathcamps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIalJZeKwbw
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Joementum posted:Unless you mean the dog, in which case I endorse. That Dog 2016 Joementum, use your amazing newsreading powers to find out the breed.
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Apr 24, 2015 02:01
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Jesus. The GOP side of things this time around is going to make 2012 look quick and orderly.
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I've yet to see a candidate wear Salvatore Ferragamo. Until I do, I withhold my vote.
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Joementum posted:By the way, Rand Paul has said this week that he's "heard about" and is "looking into" the situation with the Walmart closures. My heart tells me that is true, but the facts say that it is probably going to be about the closed stores being sites of planned protests. The workers were told at 7PM the night before that they were going to be closed for renovations for an undetermined amount of time when they had already been renovated a few months earlier without being closed. I really hope it's the Alex Jones thing though.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Jesus. The GOP side of things this time around is going to make 2012 look quick and orderly. The crazy field will dry up quickly if the Establishment are able to hold them out of the debates and events. I'm sure if Reince had his way the debates would just be Jeb, Rubio, Walker and maybe one carefully-vetted crazy person for favorable contrast.
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Somewhere a number of pages back there was a debate over whether perry's 'oops' moment was really a big enough deal to shut him out as a serious candidate, and why he's still perceived as a joke. I was thinking about that the other day and if I remember correctly, his comments about anyone wanting to deny some sort of benefit to illegals (in state tuition?)being "heartless" did him in well before that.
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PupsOfWar posted:The crazy field will dry up quickly if the Establishment are able to hold them out of the debates and events. I'm sure if Reince had his way the debates would just be Jeb, Rubio, Walker and maybe one carefully-vetted crazy person for favorable contrast. The GOP is using debates as leverage right now, if you participate in a non-sanctioned debate (like Values Voters), you get locked out of the Serious Debates. If they don't even hand out invitations to the clown car, they'll start their own Republican Primary, with raptures, speaking in tongues, and an empty podium labelled "Jeb Bush" being asked why her personally murders infants.
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Bill Clinton got booed off the DNC stage in 1988. Nixon told the press they wouldn't have him to kick around any more in 1962. Unfortunately for Rick Perry, he's nowhere near as good a politician as those two, but don't be fooled into thinking that a candidate can't remake themselves.
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What I'm thinking is he may have to remake himself not only as competent, but as more socially conservative. Then again, no one may remember that he even said that.
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I always figured what Perry lacked was a Hook. Seems like he doesn't do much that other candidates can't do better. Romney had the stern, patrician "I understand Business and the Economy, unlike the probably-illiterate negro barack hussein obama" thing down, as do a number of people who could run next cycle (rauner, haslem, snyder). Rubio has the "I'm the face of New Conservatism, lookit my handsome mug" thing. Cruz is your resident firebrand. Rand is your resident libertarian who can appeal to the youth and pretend to appeal to minorities. What does Perry bring to the table, other than being an inferior, significantly-less-likable version of Dubya? PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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eternalname posted:What I'm thinking is he may have to remake himself not only as competent, but as more socially conservative. Then again, no one may remember that he even said that. Yes he has to remake himself as socially conservative, very astute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V78ReJbjdxo
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:They long for "generic Republican" They've found him and his name is Scott Walker
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:They long for "generic Republican" I think the term you're looking for is Ronald Wilson Reagan
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PupsOfWar posted:What does Perry bring to the table, other than being an inferior, significantly-less-likable version of Dubya? Pills, and them dang ol' glasses!
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