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gently caress's sake stop taking the bait people. Its a vaguely provocative nonsense statement and he's got you riled up over it.
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LuiCypher posted:Fixed that for you. Yeah, it's really hard to notice that 40K takes place in a future fascist grimdark hellscape and is fascist about pretty much everything. I think the posters above are just glad that regardless of what's been written before by GW and fanboys, the WH40K RPGs deliberately avoid extremely skeevy territory. They're probably the best introduction to 40K, and definitely the least expensive. In the last thread I posted a quote from a guy who took umbrage when I referred to the Imperium as a fascist institution in an off-hand comment. Like I was sullying the good term. It came out later that he was a rape apologist and gamer gater. Shocking, I know.
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Clanpot Shake posted:It came out later that he was a rape apologist and gamer gater. Shocking, I know.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:20
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Not unless he's weirdly invested in the 40k RPG's adherence to fluff consistency.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:34
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lifg posted:I'm not even convinced that all OSR were about "rulings over rules". Original DnD maybe, but 1st edition was written with tournament play partially in mind, which meant everyone playing the same game. The OSR is more specialized towards a play-style than an umbrella community for all pre-WotC D&D. 2nd Edition retroclones are virtually non-existent, and the overwhelming amount of blogs, products, etc, focus on Original and Basic D&D and its spiritual sequels (Labyrinth Lord, Swords & Wizardry, etc). Nothing wrong with that, but it can be confusing when folk walk in and ask "where's all the AD&D support?"
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Effectronica posted:the whole "sex is gross and involves tentacles, slime, and lobster arms" thing is pretty much exactly how fascists approach(ed) sex and sexuality according to wilhelm reich, anyway. but yeah, it's not so much that 40k rpgs are 'dancing around' the idea of fascism as they are sort of explicitly stating it. this isn't particularly controversial stuff. 'sex is gross and weird and leads to disunity' is very much a part of toxic male nerd culture (oh no! our friendship has been ruined by X running off to have sex with Y instead of rolling dice with us!) and it's absolutely no surprise that this is reflected in 40K's attitudes toward sex. this has gently caress all to do with elf slave rape though.
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Mechanicus Initiate: HOW IS KROOT BABBY FORMED? HOW KROOT GET PRAGNENT? Magos Biologis: They need to do way instain mother. Who kill their babbys, becuse these babby cant frigth back? It was on the vox this mroing, a mother in Pech who had kill her three kids. They are taking the three babby back to T'au too lady to rest my pary are with the father who lost his chrilden; i am truley sorry for your lots.
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Apr 23, 2015 03:02
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Libertad! posted:The OSR is more specialized towards a play-style than an umbrella community for all pre-WotC D&D. Isn't Dark Dungeons/Darker Dungeons an AD&D retroclone with a decent amount of support?
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LORD OF BUTT posted:Isn't Dark Dungeons/Darker Dungeons an AD&D retroclone with a decent amount of support? It's a BECMI retroclone.
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Yeah Dark Dungeons is a clone of the Rules Cyclopedia, which was all the BECMI stuff collected into a single volume. Darker Dungeons is an attempt to modernize that with stuff like base attack bonuses, ascending AC and non-random abillity scores and HP.
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Apr 23, 2015 04:38
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LORD OF BUTT posted:Isn't Dark Dungeons/Darker Dungeons an AD&D retroclone with a decent amount of support? Dark Dungeons is based on the Rules Compendium. OSRIC is the most popular retroclone based on AD&D 1e. There's also at least one AD&D 2e-based retroclone that I know of, For Gold and Glory, but Libertad is correct that the vast majority of the OSR revolves around OD&D and BECMI.
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Oh yeah, OSRIC was what I was thinking of. 
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Hackmaster 3e demonstrated that WotC still gave GW levels of fucks about the intellectual property associated with AD&D2e. (Probably just because it was the biggest money cRPG associated with the brand.)
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ENWorld hates it when people ask if 5e's license has been released. ..... The only reason this thread pops up again and again is that people are passive-aggressively protesting against WotCs decision not to prioritize any license. In a most irritating and completely useless manner; since WotC isn't basing it's business decisions on threads at EN world. So, yeah. It would be far preferable if new threads were started, since that would mean these people would have to retype their arguments. More work means fewer posts. And each time, the arguing would get lighter, just like time heals all wounds. Meanwhile, when and if any real info becomes available, all these threads will be instantly ignored for new ones. Meaning that, yes, there are all kinds of reasons to lock this sucker and put a lid on the infected bile. PS. Especially if the main reason for a monthly "overwatch" is simply to circumvent Morris' decision in the first post. That is, to make this shambling mound never get five months old. Folks, a rotting pile of leaves is still a rotting pile of leaves no matter how often you stir it. ------ LEAVE %E ALONE!
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I wonder if any of those same people were quite so sanguine about the GSL when 4e came out.
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quote:This was my experience, exactly. Kevin runs Rifts like a narrative/story game; he uses the crunch as benchmarks in his head. He doesn't really grok games like Fate or Cortex Plus, but would love them. As little context as I have, I manage to doubt they tried "talk to the problem player in kind honesty, and failing that part ways." No, the adult thing to do is make the guy pay to play a game where the author himself can poo poo on him.
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Plague of Hats posted:No, the adult thing to do is make the guy pay to play a game where the author himself can poo poo on him. To be fair this pretty much describes the Rifts experience.
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Apr 24, 2015 08:05
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What's wrong with making GBS threads on rule lawyers?
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It promotes the kind of players-vs-GM atmosphere that encourages people to rules-lawyer for every "defence" against the other side they can get. Also it's always better to just talk to people about why something's a problem instead of passive-aggressively taking it out on them through the game.
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RottenK posted:What's wrong with making GBS threads on rule lawyers? The fact that Kevin Sembieda's definition of "rules lawyer" probably includes "anyone who tries to hold him, the guy who plasters his name on every single Rifts book, to the rules he copy/pastes without playtesting and charges people money for and then can't even be bothered to use." Every single anecdote and story that anyone who's ever met and/or worked with Sembieda paints a picture of a massively passive-aggressive (and plain ol' aggressive), scummy, insufferable rear end in a top hat, so I'm hugely skeptical that the person being discussed actually deserved to be shat upon.
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To sum up and agree with the last two posts: 1) I'm pretty dubious about what these guys consider a "rules lawyer." 2) Regardless, that's a lovely, childish thing to do. EDIT:  
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Here's some slightly offbeat grog from the delusional business idea binquote:Hello RPG.Net! quote:I've suspected it might be cost-prohibitive, but the first step before I even try and run numbers and check revenue vs expenses is to see if there was even a demand. I came up with the concept because I've wanted access to a variety of maps and minis for limited time frames without having to horde them. I personally would think some maps or minis might only be used for a single adventure or two, but it would be nice to have them (the higher encounter-level type of monsters, for example). Same thing for exotic terrain beyond your standard dungeon crawl. But as I float the idea out there, it seems a fair segment enjoys the hording aspect and having their own stockpile. So, I at least am disproving that my personal preferences are mainstream.
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Plague of Hats posted:EDIT: Grognards.txt: Look at all these Arby's opinions.
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FMguru posted:Here's some slightly offbeat grog from the delusional business idea bin
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Nessus posted:This sounds like a useful sideline for a hobby shop honestly. Or as an added benny if you run a game in the store. There are at least a few stores in Kansas of all places that just have spare crap for gamers to use, beyond the usual Warhams terrain.
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Dude loses his poo poo over New World of Darkness abandoning metaplot:quote:Lord of the Rings and Star Wars shine when they abandon cannon. Guns ‘N Roses better without the band! Forgotten Realms more compelling without Drizzt and Dark Elves!
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quote:Forgotten Realms more compelling without Drizzt and Dark Elves! Correct! A Good Grogpost.
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Libertad! posted:Lord of the Rings and Star Wars shine when they abandon cannon. Guns ‘N Roses better without the band! Forgotten Realms more compelling without Drizzt and Dark Elves! Oh, he was being sarcastic.
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Libertad! posted:There is a reason True Blood, Underworld and Blade are arguably bigger and better franchises despite the fact that like the New World of Darkness they are all obvious rip offs of it. They at least had the common sense to rip off the best parts of the franchise, those being the story and the mythology. Yeah, Blade sure is an obvious WoD ripoff. Despite, you know, being older than the RPG hobby itself and all that.
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Chances are that guy isn't even aware that Blade has a longer and more storied history than the movies.
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Sage Genesis posted:Yeah, Blade sure is an obvious WoD ripoff. Despite, you know, being older than the RPG hobby itself and all that. The first Blade movie lifted its entire setting and plot from VtM, though. Like, the only thing in the movie that actually comes from the comics is the basic concept of "there's a black guy named Blade who fights vampires, and the head vampire he fights is named Deacon Frost", and even then, both characters are radically different in the comics than they are in the movie. In particular, the comics version of Deacon Frost is a geriatric alchemist whose magic bite creates clones of people, whereas in the movie he's a sleazy young-looking guy who wears expensive designer outfits, spends half his time in sexy gothic nightclubs and the other half in isolated million-dollar penthouse suites, and has a master plan that builds up to awakening a
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He's talking about the movies. New World of Dodging(Taxes)
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gtrmp posted:The first Blade movie lifted its entire setting and plot from VtM, though. Like, the only thing in the movie that actually comes from the comics is the basic concept of "there's a black guy named Blade who fights vampires, and the head vampire he fights is named Deacon Frost", and even then, both characters are radically different in the comics than they are in the movie. In particular, the comics version of Deacon Frost is a geriatric alchemist whose magic bite creates clones of people, whereas in the movie he's a sleazy young-looking guy who wears expensive designer outfits, spends half his time in sexy gothic nightclubs and the other half in isolated million-dollar penthouse suites, and has a master plan that builds up to awakening a Ah. SO what you're saying is that Wesley Snipes is a fan of cWoD.
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I'm pretty sure Wesley Snipes is a fan of nothing except Wesley Snipes.
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Ronwayne posted:I'm pretty sure Wesley Snipes is a fan of nothing except Wesley Snipes. Incorrect. He's also a fan of both weed and tax evasion.
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Ratoslov posted:Incorrect. He's also a fan of both weed and tax evasion. And post-it notes.
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Maxwell Lord posted:BRB, designing a system where every action you attempt has a chance of causing bears to appear. Someone already beat you to it: Bear World
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Bear World posted:Declare your action: tell the Bear Master (henceforth referred to as “BM”)
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Man, I love the oWoD and even I don't think abandoning the metaplot and going with the nWoD style was a bad idea. One that saddens me a little, sure, but not a bad one. By the end there was a lot of metaplot, a lot of conflicting loose ends, and every other book had gone in a completely different direction. The mechanics were lovely half the time, the stories were getting harder and harder to grasp without a full knowledge of what came before, and things were so contradictory that to claim it had any real 'objective truths' beyond a few big ones was pretty false. As for playing fast and loose with canon, don't even get me started. I have a project that's pretty drat grog itself, making an encyclopedia of the whole setting, and White Wolf played pretty fast and loose themselves, usually for the better. But as usual, grogs tend to be deluded and have some hardcore rose-coloured glasses.
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