terrible programmers: my god, it's full of chars

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > YOSPOS > terrible programmers: my god, it's full of chars

«‹›1446 »

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

Jabor posted:

also you're probably better off using a computed jump into a jump table (or even directly to the relevant code if you're feeling sufficiently Real Programmer) rather than a big ladder of compares and branches

the most Real Programmer thing I've done so far here is figure out I can put my letters at tiles 41-5A and numbers at tiles 30-39

also writing assembly

# ? Apr 26, 2015 15:27

Blinkz0rz: May 27, 2001; MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

it's the same reason that there's an inherent problem with white anti-racists being at or near the forefront of the anti-racism movement

the organizers of pycon are doing more damage to the cause of getting more women and minorities into technology by making a white man the messenger. there's no reason they couldn't have had someone like lyndsey scott or lynn root present the same talk

# ? Apr 26, 2015 15:40

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

MononcQc posted:

I'm hoping it would have went well.

welcome to the internet, you must be new here

# ? Apr 26, 2015 19:12

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

Deacon of Delicious posted:

it also matters whether or not they are actually amplifying a message, or presenting it as some novel thing they figured out while excluding the marginalized people who are actually affected by it, and have been speaking about it all along

yeah its this. you're not amplifying a thing if you completely whitewash other peoples contributions and work

MononcQc posted:

I'm hoping it would have went well.

if it would fly anywhere, it would be pycon, but based on my time there i'm doubtful

quote:

I have the feeling the problem here isn't that someone is repeating someone else's message, but that they are able to do it without any of the lovely consequences the marginalized speaker would have received. But that's a problem with the lovely audience, not the speakers, isn't it?

this issue is appropriation and whitewashing. if he had actually just presented other peoples work and acknowledged their contributions, i wouldn't be as upset with him.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 21:07

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

also another lovely thing about jacobian is that he beat me out for that loving tie at the auction the night before this keynote

# ? Apr 26, 2015 21:14

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

is message appropriation a monad?

# ? Apr 26, 2015 21:18

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

fleshweasel posted:

is message appropriation a monad?

pat boone says

# ? Apr 26, 2015 22:18

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

pointsofdata posted:

Our product doesn't!

It uses specially formatted spreadsheets instead.

wrongo db?

# ? Apr 26, 2015 22:32

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

Luigi Thirty posted:

I'm pretty sure this isn't the ideal way of doing this. I can't do a JSR off of a compare without spaghetti short jumps to an intermediary subroutine. How should I be doing this?

this is the reason for indexed addressing

like you could just have one draw payouts routine (i might get some of assembler syntax wrong here)

code:

DrawPayouts:
	LDA payoutLinesDrawn ; has numbers 1-9
	ASL ; multiply by two because tables have 16 bit numbers
	TAX
	LDA textDestinationTable,X
	STA textDestinationLow
	LDA textPointerTable,X
	STA textPointerLow
	INX
	LDA textDestinationTable,X
	STA textDestinationHigh
	LDA textPointerTable,X
	STA textPointerHigh
	JSR DrawString
	JMP LoopForever

then for the tables you just have areas somewhere in ram, preferably not crossing page border, that just have the 9 different destination and pointer values

# ? Apr 27, 2015 02:02

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

can anyone explain why a gui application is useful to like, view your database or w/e the gently caress is going on in here

# ? Apr 27, 2015 02:42

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

bobbilljim posted:

can anyone explain why a gui application is useful to like, view your database or w/e the gently caress is going on in here

because our database has over 900 tables and if i'm trying to understand the relationship between various tables in the database it's really helpful to have a tool that lets me visualize those relationships easily

or at least let me jump between tables without having to try and remember what they're all called

# ? Apr 27, 2015 02:46

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

because our database has over 900 tables and if i'm trying to understand the relationship between various tables in the database it's really helpful to have a tool that lets me visualize those relationships easily

or at least let me jump between tables without having to try and remember what they're all called

i never had 800 tables but connecting to the db and doing /d was enough for me. plus a few selects

# ? Apr 27, 2015 04:53

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

have you considered SQL Server Management Studio?

# ? Apr 27, 2015 05:12

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

install php myadmin lmao

# ? Apr 27, 2015 05:19

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

i'm storing it all in my very large brain

# ? Apr 27, 2015 05:25

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

bobbilljim posted:

install php myadmin lmao

triggered

# ? Apr 27, 2015 08:39

karms: Jan 22, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Yam Slacker

bobbilljim posted:

i never had 800 tables but connecting to the db and doing /d was enough for me. plus a few selects

wow your so cool!!

# ? Apr 27, 2015 09:23

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

bobbilljim posted:

i never had 800 tables but connecting to the db and doing /d was enough for me. plus a few selects

thats why you post here

# ? Apr 27, 2015 09:36

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

sql developer is not that bad a gui considering its both free and made by oracle

i mostly just use the visual studio server explorer and oracle plugin tho

jesus WEP fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Apr 27, 2015

# ? Apr 27, 2015 09:39

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

I am terrible but so are gui tools. cli lyf

# ? Apr 27, 2015 09:42

distortion park: Apr 25, 2011

Are schemas not meant to be documented somewhere or abstracted away by some wrapper code anyway?

idk anything about dbs

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:00

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

bobbilljim posted:

I am terrible but so are gui tools. cli lyf

"ive never had to use a db gui tool because ive had simple dbs, theyre all poo poo"

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:11

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

you get the same information in the cli, but faster. i didn't have 800 tables but maybe 100 or so?

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:16

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

because our database has over 900 tables and if i'm trying to understand the relationship between various tables in the database it's really helpful to have a tool that lets me visualize those relationships easily

or at least let me jump between tables without having to try and remember what they're all called

Just un-normalise your database :v:

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:16

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

is there a mysql gui for osx that is a) decent and b) lets me like, bookmark a bunch of tables because we have like 960 tables in our DB and i'm only interested in about 80 of them and having to scroll between them all the time is annoying

i know the answer is 'get good at a command line sql tool' but i'm not a database developer and i mostly just need access to the schema quickly and easily

this kind of thing was something you used to be able to do with EOModeler.app in Enterprise Objects Framework, because it's part of how you'd create the mapping between objects and tables.

maybe there are tools for doing this sort of thing that work with other ORMs like Hibernate. they'd exist primarily to make the object/relational mapping easier, but for most of that stuff a major goal is not having to modify the schema of existing databases, so you could likely use them just for visualization too.

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:17

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

i bet all of you use file browsers too instead of ls and cd as god intended

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:19

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

pointsofdata posted:

Are schemas not meant to be documented somewhere or abstracted away by some wrapper code anyway?

idk anything about dbs

they should be both documented somewhere and abstracted away, though using wrapper code instead of an object relational mapping system sucks. if an ORM is written correctly it basically does all the wrapping you'd do yourself, plus stuff that's really hard to get right like concurrency and faulting.

anyone who tells you not to use an ORM is a fool, even if you don't use one from the start you'll wind up using one, it'll just be a lovely ad hoc ORM you write yourself instead of one written by people who do ORM professionally.

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:22

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

bobbilljim posted:

i bet all of you use file browsers too instead of ls and cd as god intended

dired is a good file browser

# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:46

power botton: Nov 2, 2011

i use ranger op

# ? Apr 27, 2015 14:06

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

denormalize yourself and face to schema

# ? Apr 27, 2015 14:14

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

Symbolic Butt posted:

also learn java and/or c# because it's relatively easy to be half decent at these langs

been writing in c# for the past few weeks

it's p good, but the code i'm working on is legacy as poo poo - a big rear end website written in webforms with no documentation, passes references for action to be taken on instead of returning values and updating them, and full of methods that return a property on an object instead of the object itself

# ? Apr 27, 2015 14:38

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Captain Foo posted:

denormalize yourself and face to schema

# ? Apr 27, 2015 14:40

EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

Captain Foo posted:

denormalize yourself and face to schema

# ? Apr 27, 2015 14:41

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 13, 2024 20:04

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

eschaton posted:

...they should be both documented somewhere and abstracted away...

how do they even get documented without use of a gui tool

anyway, documentation is only good for why things happened, not what happened, and "nobody" really writes why

# ? Apr 27, 2015 14:47

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > YOSPOS > terrible programmers: my god, it's full of chars

«‹›1446 »

more like dICK posted:

more like dICK posted:

Jabor posted:

MononcQc posted:

Deacon of Delicious posted:

MononcQc posted:

quote:

fleshweasel posted:

pointsofdata posted:

more like dICK posted:

Luigi Thirty posted:

code:

bobbilljim posted:

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

bobbilljim posted:

bobbilljim posted:

bobbilljim posted:

bobbilljim posted:

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

pointsofdata posted:

bobbilljim posted:

Symbolic Butt posted:

Captain Foo posted:

Captain Foo posted:

eschaton posted: