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more like dICK posted:I was in the audience for this. It's pretty loving lovely that a white man repackaged the work that marginalized people have been doing and claimed it as his own. He's part of the problem in a big way but he still gets standing ovations because this industry is a toxic pit. more like dICK posted:i wonder how many other articles by shanley will get standing loving ovations instead of rape threats when they come from a man the related question is should he have just talked about something else then. Or the problem is that this time the audience was receptive to the message?
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the problem is message appropriation you think the message would have been accepted if the speaker was a woman or minority?
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I'm hoping it would have went well. So what I'm wondering here is whether the message itself is good and this should be seen as a form of amplification (the people he lifted the message from have better chances of seeing the change they want to see happening, maybe?), or if only the marginalized people should be saying these things because they're the ones who wanted to communicate that message first? I have the feeling the problem here isn't that someone is repeating someone else's message, but that they are able to do it without any of the lovely consequences the marginalized speaker would have received. But that's a problem with the lovely audience, not the speakers, isn't it?
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# ? Apr 26, 2015 14:30 |
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it's the mansplaining effect
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# ? Apr 26, 2015 14:36 |
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it also matters whether or not they are actually amplifying a message, or presenting it as some novel thing they figured out while excluding the marginalized people who are actually affected by it, and have been speaking about it all along
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Jabor posted:also you're probably better off using a computed jump into a jump table (or even directly to the relevant code if you're feeling sufficiently Real Programmer) rather than a big ladder of compares and branches the most Real Programmer thing I've done so far here is figure out I can put my letters at tiles 41-5A and numbers at tiles 30-39 also writing assembly
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# ? Apr 26, 2015 15:27 |
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it's the same reason that there's an inherent problem with white anti-racists being at or near the forefront of the anti-racism movement the organizers of pycon are doing more damage to the cause of getting more women and minorities into technology by making a white man the messenger. there's no reason they couldn't have had someone like lyndsey scott or lynn root present the same talk
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MononcQc posted:I'm hoping it would have went well. welcome to the internet, you must be new here
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Deacon of Delicious posted:it also matters whether or not they are actually amplifying a message, or presenting it as some novel thing they figured out while excluding the marginalized people who are actually affected by it, and have been speaking about it all along yeah its this. you're not amplifying a thing if you completely whitewash other peoples contributions and work MononcQc posted:I'm hoping it would have went well. quote:I have the feeling the problem here isn't that someone is repeating someone else's message, but that they are able to do it without any of the lovely consequences the marginalized speaker would have received. But that's a problem with the lovely audience, not the speakers, isn't it?
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# ? Apr 26, 2015 21:07 |
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also another lovely thing about jacobian is that he beat me out for that loving tie at the auction the night before this keynote
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# ? Apr 26, 2015 21:14 |
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is message appropriation a monad?
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# ? Apr 26, 2015 21:18 |
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fleshweasel posted:is message appropriation a monad? pat boone says
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pointsofdata posted:Our product doesn't! wrongo db?
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# ? Apr 26, 2015 22:32 |
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more like dICK posted:yeah its this. you're not amplifying a thing if you completely whitewash other peoples contributions and work Yeah I see the issue then.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I'm pretty sure this isn't the ideal way of doing this. I can't do a JSR off of a compare without spaghetti short jumps to an intermediary subroutine. How should I be doing this? this is the reason for indexed addressing like you could just have one draw payouts routine (i might get some of assembler syntax wrong here) code:
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 02:02 |
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can anyone explain why a gui application is useful to like, view your database or w/e the gently caress is going on in here
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 02:42 |
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bobbilljim posted:can anyone explain why a gui application is useful to like, view your database or w/e the gently caress is going on in here because our database has over 900 tables and if i'm trying to understand the relationship between various tables in the database it's really helpful to have a tool that lets me visualize those relationships easily or at least let me jump between tables without having to try and remember what they're all called
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:because our database has over 900 tables and if i'm trying to understand the relationship between various tables in the database it's really helpful to have a tool that lets me visualize those relationships easily i never had 800 tables but connecting to the db and doing /d was enough for me. plus a few selects
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 04:53 |
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have you considered SQL Server Management Studio?
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 05:12 |
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install php myadmin lmao
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i'm storing it all in my very large brain
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bobbilljim posted:install php myadmin lmao triggered
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 08:39 |
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bobbilljim posted:i never had 800 tables but connecting to the db and doing /d was enough for me. plus a few selects wow your so cool!!
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bobbilljim posted:i never had 800 tables but connecting to the db and doing /d was enough for me. plus a few selects thats why you post here
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sql developer is not that bad a gui considering its both free and made by oracle i mostly just use the visual studio server explorer and oracle plugin tho jesus WEP fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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I am terrible but so are gui tools. cli lyf
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 09:42 |
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Are schemas not meant to be documented somewhere or abstracted away by some wrapper code anyway? idk anything about dbs
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bobbilljim posted:I am terrible but so are gui tools. cli lyf "ive never had to use a db gui tool because ive had simple dbs, theyre all poo poo"
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:11 |
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you get the same information in the cli, but faster. i didn't have 800 tables but maybe 100 or so?
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:16 |
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:because our database has over 900 tables and if i'm trying to understand the relationship between various tables in the database it's really helpful to have a tool that lets me visualize those relationships easily Just un-normalise your database
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:is there a mysql gui for osx that is a) decent and b) lets me like, bookmark a bunch of tables because we have like 960 tables in our DB and i'm only interested in about 80 of them and having to scroll between them all the time is annoying this kind of thing was something you used to be able to do with EOModeler.app in Enterprise Objects Framework, because it's part of how you'd create the mapping between objects and tables. maybe there are tools for doing this sort of thing that work with other ORMs like Hibernate. they'd exist primarily to make the object/relational mapping easier, but for most of that stuff a major goal is not having to modify the schema of existing databases, so you could likely use them just for visualization too.
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:17 |
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i bet all of you use file browsers too instead of ls and cd as god intended
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pointsofdata posted:Are schemas not meant to be documented somewhere or abstracted away by some wrapper code anyway? they should be both documented somewhere and abstracted away, though using wrapper code instead of an object relational mapping system sucks. if an ORM is written correctly it basically does all the wrapping you'd do yourself, plus stuff that's really hard to get right like concurrency and faulting. anyone who tells you not to use an ORM is a fool, even if you don't use one from the start you'll wind up using one, it'll just be a lovely ad hoc ORM you write yourself instead of one written by people who do ORM professionally.
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:22 |
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bobbilljim posted:i bet all of you use file browsers too instead of ls and cd as god intended dired is a good file browser
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 10:46 |
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i use ranger op
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# ? Apr 27, 2015 14:06 |
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denormalize yourself and face to schema
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Symbolic Butt posted:also learn java and/or c# because it's relatively easy to be half decent at these langs been writing in c# for the past few weeks it's p good, but the code i'm working on is legacy as poo poo - a big rear end website written in webforms with no documentation, passes references for action to be taken on instead of returning values and updating them, and full of methods that return a property on an object instead of the object itself
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Captain Foo posted:denormalize yourself and face to schema
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Captain Foo posted:denormalize yourself and face to schema
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eschaton posted:...they should be both documented somewhere and abstracted away... how do they even get documented without use of a gui tool anyway, documentation is only good for why things happened, not what happened, and "nobody" really writes why
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