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Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

this happens even between versions of microsoft office

it's just a really bad document format
yeah i had to send a doc i typed up in office 2007 to a company that was apparently running 2003, and they called me up and asked what was up with the hosed up formatting

don't use doc anywhere ever if you can help it

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pram
Jun 10, 2001

Zom Aur posted:

i usually just export all my important docs as pdf.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
which i might add can be done natively in the worlds most advanced os (apple osx macintosh)

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

also natively in the worlds most advanced office suite (microsoft office)

plus natively in the communist office suite and the third tier operating system

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

pseudorandom name posted:

also natively in the worlds most advanced office suite (microsoft office)

advanced in the cancer sense

Rahu
Feb 14, 2009


let me just check my figures real quick here
Grimey Drawer
Posting from debian 8, the best desktop linux available.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Rahu posted:

Posting from Ubuntu 15.04 Gnome 3, the best desktop linux available.

ftfy.

celeron 300a
Jan 23, 2005

by exmarx
Yam Slacker

CPColin posted:

I wrote my resume in LibreOffice and got it formatted all nicely and didn't get a call back. Then I had my girlfriend open it in MS Word and it was formatted like hot garbage.

Zom Aur posted:

i usually just export all my important docs as pdf.

If I intend to have a document read by anyone, it always gets exported to PDF. Abiword and Libreoffice claim to use ODF but they format it differently.

I've always wanted to learn how to write documents in LaTeX but the laziness is so profound that I'm going to just specialize in markdown.

Countdown until when we need to start exporting documents as html/epub so that mobile readers can view them.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
it's news to me that abiword is actively maintained, or used by anyone

the last time i saw someone mention abiword, it was an actual printed page, in a linux magazine, back when those existed

celeron 300a
Jan 23, 2005

by exmarx
Yam Slacker

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's news to me that abiword is actively maintained, or used by anyone

the last time i saw someone mention abiword, it was an actual printed page, in a linux magazine, back when those existed

It gets automatically installed when you run lubuntu. People were updating documentation on older hardware and it was absolutely ruining the layout until someone figured it out.

The obvious solution, of course, is to remove abiword and install libreoffice.

The true (in 1980s, ivory tower ideals) solution would be to teach kids LaTeX in elementary school or something but

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

I love latex and use it extensively but it's a bad ecosystem with bad idioms and bad syntax and bad tools and represents the worst of endemic ux problems crippling awesome tech

to be clear libreoffice le logos whatever is still worse in every possible way

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
The best part of my resume-building experience happened when I installed TeXstudio and its package didn't bring in any of the necessary dependencies for it to be able to generate PDF files. Then the UI have useless messages and nothing ever suggested installing the extra packages until I'd Googled it for an hour.

Then I didn't write any of that down, so I'll get to go through it all again, next time I reinstall.

Oh, also I turned down the job offer.

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
sounds like a piece of poo poo

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
That's me, all right. :(

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

CPColin posted:

That's me, all right. :(

I think it's probably your operating system

which TeX should also be counted as

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001

it's amazing to me you all keep using bad-debian and debian on your desktops

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
Linux mint xfce is a tolerable desktop os for work

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Breakfast All Day posted:

I love latex and use it extensively but it's a bad ecosystem with bad idioms and bad syntax and bad tools and represents the worst of endemic ux problems crippling awesome tech

the tech is pretty bad too tbqh, though at least it's gotten better since things like xetex dragged it kicking and screaming into the late 1990s

it's still the least bad option for writing papers tho

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



Soricidus posted:

the tech is pretty bad too tbqh, though at least it's gotten better since things like xetex dragged it kicking and screaming into the late 1990s

it's still the least bad option for writing papers tho

It's horrible trash, and I die inside a little more every time I need to touch our invoicing system which uses it for the pdfs :smithicide:

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Zom Aur posted:

i usually just export all my important docs as pdf.

who the gently caress doesn't do this

dont skimp on the shrimp
Apr 23, 2008

:coffee:

Captain Foo posted:

who the gently caress doesn't do this
no one.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

this happens even between versions of microsoft office

it's just a really bad document format

no it doesn't.

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
Abiword is great and I use it when emacs just doesn't cut it.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

CPColin posted:

The best part of my resume-building experience happened when I installed TeXstudio and its package didn't bring in any of the necessary dependencies for it to be able to generate PDF files. Then the UI have useless messages and nothing ever suggested installing the extra packages until I'd Googled it for an hour.

Then I didn't write any of that down, so I'll get to go through it all again, next time I reinstall.

Oh, also I turned down the job offer.

mactex/texshop supremacy

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Abiword is great and I use it when emacs just doesn't cut it.

i too never ever use abiword

so lucky most of our written poo poo at work is in markdown, org-mode, or other human-readable plaintext formats

Captain Pike
Jul 29, 2003

I wrote all of my college papers in QuarkXPress.

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

celeron 300a posted:

That's ok, it's just a framework for how we will integrate bespoke solutions for your particular corner cases.

Gonna add a plugin to make sure a quake server is always on PID 4 and running that crazy gravity changing level because you never know.
you're doing god's work

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

lol people on my twitter are complaining about systemd

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

"gentoo is horrid but at least it's not systemd"

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Captain Pike posted:

I wrote all of my college papers in QuarkXPress.

i wrote mine in wordperfect on my mac lc ii running the world's most advanced operating system, system 7

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug

Captain Foo posted:

"gentoo is horrid but at least it's not systemd"

i just switched my gentoo machines to systemd

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Lysidas posted:

i just switched my gentoo machines to systemd

:greencube:

pram
Jun 10, 2001
gentoo machines. not just one. multiple. as if you didnt learn from your mistake the first time

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

all my gentoo machines also run systemd

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

pram posted:

gentoo machines. not just one. multiple. as if you didnt learn from your mistake the first time

dont skimp on the shrimp
Apr 23, 2008

:coffee:

pram posted:

gentoo machines. not just one. multiple. as if you didnt learn from your mistake the first time
gotta cluster that poo poo son

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
all of my personal machines either run OS X or debian

all of my work machines mostly all either run centos or solaris

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
My personal machine runs ubuntu 15.04 and windows.

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Asshole Masonanie
Oct 27, 2009

by vyelkin
run linux hypervisor and have every OS

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