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mikeraskol posted:You didn't really get what I said. I was commenting more on how nasty Ward was being than your post, sorry I phrased it that way. But even Coulson told him to knock it off. Even if he does mean well, he's being a total fucker about the whole thing.
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AoS is effectively one long, expensive commercial for the MCU. Not going to spoil anything but there are a couple of events in Ultron that make it seem like AoS is almost an afterthought in the overall MCU. The show is a drop in the bucket compared to the juggernaut that is Marvel cinema. Coulson dying was a major plot point in the first Avengers movie and bringing him back to the movies would take away from that so I'm fairly confident he'll not be making anymore movie appearances that aren't flashbacks/dreams etc. In other news, JESUS loving CHRIST SKYE  Agent Skye Mary Sue Daisy Poots Johnson unleashed the John Wick AND brought in a bit of the Reverse Flash just for good measure. Holy gently caress that was a hell of a scene. I'm sad the bus is gone and that Skye didn't crush Ward's nuts from across the room but this was out-loving-standing overall.
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Apr 29, 2015 05:19
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notthegoatseguy posted:Maybe the first season I could understand but what the gently caress are you people thinking that this show doesn't matter to the broader MCU? They've introduced Inhumans (yes, even using the name and other associated terminology) four loving years before the Inhumans' own movie or any other show or movie that may have them before the movie. If you think any of this will matter for the Inhumans movie I don't know what to tell you. Just enjoy the show for what it is. Who cares if it ties into the MCU at all. 32MB OF ESRAM posted:drat, Skye is Solid Snake now I guess she did get all the recessive genes.
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Apr 29, 2015 05:22
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:drat, Skye is Solid Snake now She needs to sneak around in a cardboard box for this to truly come to pass.
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Apr 29, 2015 05:23
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Can someone describe the AoU preview after this week's AoS episode? I didn't get to see it.
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Apr 29, 2015 05:40
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Tangy Zizzle posted:Can someone describe the AoU preview after this week's AoS episode? I didn't get to see it. It was Cap fighting Ultron atop a moving truck, and then a bunch of quick edits of action scenes from the rest of the film. Nothing incredibly specific.
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Codependent Poster posted:Whedon has nothing to do with the films anymore, so what he said is pretty much just his thoughts when making AoU. If Feige or the Russos want to use Coulson or characters from the show, they will. Well, sure, I can't completely rule out the possibility of a cameo or Easter egg in Civil/Infinity War. But you're talking as though this was solely Whedon's decision and that Feige and the rest of Marvel Studios had nothing to do with it, which isn't exactly my takeaway from those quotes.
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Apr 29, 2015 05:45
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Welp, shut down all of television. That's as good as it's gonna get. Seriously, Skye's Sonic the Hedgehog burn, Jemma's cheery "Poof! No more Ward!" while literally advocating coldblooded murder, Hunter and Mack basically just going "Nah we cool", Coulson dunking all over Gonzales for months because he knew he didn't have the votes to get what he was going to do anyway... glorious. Still, the absolute best part was Coulson unlocking the toolbox, handing it over, and being like "You could've just waited ten minutes and not have Fury rip you a new one for all this oh woops he's alive btw." That, the way they effectively worked together, and the look on Gonzales' face afterwards when Phil dropped the mic and walked off. It was the first time a season-long plot has just felt satisfying, like everything actually came together and was resolved.
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Apr 29, 2015 06:11
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I wonder if Coulson just casually dropping that Fury's alive is going to make PointySHIELD flip their poo poo and go hunt Fury down for his secrets instead of our heroes. Probably not though.
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Apr 29, 2015 06:16
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Also not getting enough attention is Cal trying to be a better person. Yeah, he paced a little, but he'll count to ten next time  Lemniscate Blue posted:I wonder if Coulson just casually dropping that Fury's alive is going to make PointySHIELD flip their poo poo and go hunt Fury down for his secrets instead of our heroes. That would... be a mistake on their part. Especially since it was made very clear Phil, and by extension Hill/Fury/the Avengers, know where the bodies are buried.
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Apr 29, 2015 06:26
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Apr 29, 2015 06:28
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During that whole Skye-goes-commando scene I was like "wait, this is May, right? No, wait, no, it's Skye. drat May is a good teacher." I mean, poo poo, combine that with The Shocker's powers and she's come quite a long way.
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Apr 29, 2015 06:38
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During that whole sequence I was like "In season one I posted a joke about Skye's best episode being the one she was in a coma." This show has certainly come a long way.
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Apr 29, 2015 08:30
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Coulson being a smug prick about everything all the time has worn me down on the character. I've gone from being elated about his resurrection when the series started to wishing Loki had done a doubletap.
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Apr 29, 2015 08:35
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Holy poo poo Skye  Getting involved with Kevin Tanchereon is one of the best decisions this show's ever made.Skye being badass was amazing. Ward being crazy was amazing. Jemma being psycho was amazing. Coulson being smug was amazing. The last minute AoU advert wasn't amazing cause I've already seen it so it felt unnecessary but I'm sure it went down better for those who haven't. I doubt there'll be much follow up next episode, there's not really too much in the movie that the show could latch on to. notthegoatseguy posted:Maybe the first season I could understand but what the gently caress are you people thinking that this show doesn't matter to the broader MCU? They've introduced Inhumans (yes, even using the name and other associated terminology) four loving years before the Inhumans' own movie or any other show or movie that may have them before the movie. It's Barry Convex, just look at the OP
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Apr 29, 2015 08:43
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Barack HUSSEIN posted:Coulson being a smug prick about everything all the time has worn me down on the character. I've gone from being elated about his resurrection when the series started to wishing Loki had done a doubletap. How's the weather in Wrongopinionstan?
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Apr 29, 2015 08:44
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So, I was thinking. Is it possible that Chloe Bennet's oft-mocked history as a Chinese Pop Star actually gave her good experience for doing fight scenes? Learning choreography, doing rolls and flips in sync with other people... in other words, is having a dance background actually a good start for doing coolguy punchmans stuff?
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Apr 29, 2015 08:51
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I've heard some actors say that a dance background helps and others say that it makes action scenes counter-intuitive in ways. It probably depends on a lot of factors...but hey, when it comes down to it, being coordinated and used to moving around has gotta be vastly preferable to being clumsy and flat-footed.Barack HUSSEIN posted:Coulson being a smug prick about everything all the time has worn me down on the character. I've gone from being elated about his resurrection when the series started to wishing Loki had done a doubletap.  I think this season should've focused more on how different Coulson is from the SHIELD old guard that had allowed themselves to be taken over by Hydra/was merely another face of Hydra throughout the years. The whole point of Fury appointing Coulson as the new director was to have a fresh start with a different, better direction than the path SHIELD had meandered onto. But now we're kinda getting the feeling that Coulson is just a shorter, whiter Nick Fury, and I don't think it works that well for the character or for the show. I mean, he's still superior to Gonzales, but not by a glaring obvious margin.
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Apr 29, 2015 09:03
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Rarity posted:The last minute AoU advert wasn't amazing cause I've already seen it so it felt unnecessary but I'm sure it went down better for those who haven't. Just remember it's not out in the US for a couple of days, so its placement largely seems logical. Honestly, as much as I enjoyed getting to see AoU on the 23rd, seeing it right after watching this episode would've been really cool.
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Apr 29, 2015 09:06
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Barack HUSSEIN posted:Coulson being a smug prick about everything all the time has worn me down on the character. I've gone from being elated about his resurrection when the series started to wishing Loki had done a doubletap. Coulson being a smug prick is the thing he does best. I always feel like he doesn't have a lot to do or a lot of emotion when he does anything, so he's always doing strings of quips and asides, like his various Marvel movie appearances stapled together. When he really lets loose with the smugness he's achieving the best that can be done with the character.
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XboxPants posted:So, I was thinking. Ask Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee (if you could) about that and see what they say. (Answer is yes, it most certainly helps. Quite a number of stuntmen are also quite proficent dancers)
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Apr 29, 2015 10:18
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Rarity posted:Holy poo poo Skye Judging from twitter, that was a combination of Matt Mullins and Kevin Tancharoen and also Chloe Bennet being awesome. quote:Ming-Na Wen @MingNa quote:Chloe Bennet @ChloeBennet4 quote:Matt Mullins @Sideswipematt quote:Chloe Bennet @ChloeBennet4 I have to agree with Bennet on that last point, too. I was super duper hoping Simmons was gonna take out Ward the same way he does people, double tap on the ground. I'm frankly still hoping that is how he goes out. No lingering, no final words, just Simmons taking care of business. 
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Cat Terrist posted:Ask Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee (if you could) about that and see what they say. It probably also helps that Kevin Tanchereon is a choreographer as well as a director. He also directed the episode with that fantastic May/33 fight scene.
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It's both funny and sad how much better the fight/action scenes are now compared to early season one, which sometimes looked like they just forgot to hire a fight choreographer and told all the actors "poo poo I dunno, just kind of punch him I guess?" How far we've come from the days of May awkwardly beating up some Scandinavian prog rockers or the team fighting a half dozen super-soldiers by just standing next to them and having a boring, static fist fight.
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Apr 29, 2015 10:48
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VDay posted:It's both funny and sad how much better the fight/action scenes are now compared to early season one, which sometimes looked like they just forgot to hire a fight choreographer and told all the actors "poo poo I dunno, just kind of punch him I guess?" How far we've come from the days of May awkwardly beating up some Scandinavian prog rockers or the team fighting a half dozen super-soldiers by just standing next to them and having a boring, static fist fight. Remember that hilariously awful Ward versus Centipede guys in the Warehouse? Man I can't wait for that Skye scene to show up on youtube.
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Xtanstic posted:Remember that hilariously awful Ward versus Centipede guys in the Warehouse? Man I can't wait for that Skye scene to show up on youtube. No, you can't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hReYNlIoIWE
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Apr 29, 2015 11:49
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I loved the moment Skye shot the pipe and chased the HYDRA guy around the table. The entire fight sequence reminded me a bit of River's bar fight in Serenity. Muad'Dad's mood swings and eternal optimism concerning future family dinners will never get old.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:01
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hope and vaseline posted:I'm actually glad that I was wrong for once on Ward manipulating Agent 33 and instead genuinely caring for her. Unless he has some master backup plan to use her as a SHIELD mole... I don't know, from the little bit we saw she seemed genuinely upset that he left her behind.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:10
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Outside of what has already been said, I'm really glad that Deathlok didn't get mindwiped/tinkered with enough to have the awkward "welp I'm your enemy now we must fight" reveal. Mike has really been reasserting his own personality instead of being silent emo-bot and the more he talks the more I like the character. I am so glad that Cal remained calm and actually seems to have worked things out a bit with Jiaying. I was a little worried in their "walk with me" scene that she was literally going to take him to the edge of the mountain, Old Yeller him, and shove him wordlessly off the cliff but thankfully we get to keep him around at least long enough for him to rage out of the invaders next episode. The Raina and Jiaying power struggle is going to come to a head soon, possibly with her just manipulating others to undermine her authority. I'm curious if either their impending conflict or the invasion of Afterlife will force the Elders to reveal themselves and lay down the law. We're years away from the Inhumans movie, so probably not.
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Apr 29, 2015 12:33
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Theta Protocol is the New Avergers organisation, right? Coulson has been setting it up for Fury and Hill, and it will be there to support the Avengers defend Earth and Humanity. It even has a helicarrier. Both Shields will get subsumed.
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hope and vaseline posted:I'm actually glad that I was wrong for once on Ward manipulating Agent 33 and instead genuinely caring for her. Unless he has some master backup plan to use her as a SHIELD mole... There's almost zero possibility that Ward hasn't subtly manipulated her, if not straight-up subjected her to a second round of Whitehall's program, to be utterly loyal to him. Ward claimed he needed one more thing from Coulson and I doubt it was "take in Agent 33 as an olive branch." It's another play on Coulson's willingness to forgive and take in ex-SHIELD members. I suppose it's possible it wasn't a ploy, but considering almost everyone has alternate motives for every action in this show I doubt it.
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It's a nice touch to have the Shield-616 bus get blown up right as the conventional 616 marvel universe seems to be coming to an end with the secret war event. I also liked that Deathlok/Mike wasn't at all cool with missing a leg, and wanted to be reassured that he could get it repaired. He didn't seem to mind the missing eye, but he's probably on like his fifth eye now, so that might not be as big a deal for him. That Skye shootout is amazing every time I see it, that had to have been a TON of takes to get right, and Chloe Bennett was doing the heavy lifting with the random Hydra goon stuntmen just having to hit their marks and fall the right way, while she's doing 20 different things in the scene. Now hopefully we get to see a similar scene down the line, but with her firing off quake blasts and whatnot instead of using a gun.
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Little Mac posted:Solid Quake  Who would have though that I would live in a world where Skye has become a badass and one of my favorite characters? The hedgehog burn was a great line, and I really liked how the show did the trope of Ward expressing his regret for and "justifying" his actions, and the rest of the team went "nope, gently caress you, I still hope you die." While as a viewer I don't want evil-Ward to die because he's awesome, I appreciate that Simmons was really going to kill him; it's a realistic response to all the fuckery that Ward has done. I'm still dying to know what Gonzales is carrying in the cargo hold of that ship though.
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Collateral posted:Theta Protocol is the New Avergers organisation, right? Coulson has been setting it up for Fury and Hill, and it will be there to support the Avengers defend Earth and Humanity. It even has a helicarrier. Yeah, everything that they were saying Coulson was doing off books checks out with what we see in Age of Ultron.
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imperialparadox posted:I'm still dying to know what Gonzales is carrying in the cargo hold of that ship though. I have to assume that the two-part finale is going to deal directly with that, considering the title of the episode(s) is S.O.S.
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Rarity posted:It's Barry Convex, just look at the OP I've already eaten my share of crow about the introduction of the Inhumans concept. But if you think anything this show is doing with Inhumans will get much more than a cursory mention, if that, in the 2019 film... I suspect you'll be very disappointed.
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Holy poo poo that was a well done gunfight. That was some top tier fight choreography and Goddamn did Skye officially earn the title of badass there.
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