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mds2 posted:Well, after 78 years of woodworking grandpa had his first table saw accident. His thumb is a bit shorter today. Well this is terrifying. Really glad I picked up some push blocks MickRaider fucked around with this message at 01:15 on May 1, 2015 |
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MickRaider posted:Are Kevlar/chain mail gloves worth the investment in the event of contact? One million times no
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Apr 30, 2015 05:15
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What was your grandfather doing when it happened and did you identify the cause of the accident, did he use push sticks?
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Apr 30, 2015 05:58
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MickRaider posted:Well this is terrifying. Really glad I picked up some push blocks Never use gloves with machines, instead of just a finger coming off it'll pull your whole hand in and it might not stop there. Edit: At least that's what got drilled into me.
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Apr 30, 2015 06:41
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LookieLoo posted:Never use gloves with machines, instead of just a finger coming off it'll pull your whole hand in and it might not stop there. Yep, nor long sleeves, long hair not tied back, etc. Only exception I make is angle grinders, I always wear a pair of well-fitted work gloves, saved me from a few "grinder bites" now working in cramped conditions.
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Apr 30, 2015 09:37
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I make exception for long sleeves because that's just not possible. Then I'd only be able to work 1/3rd of the year EDIT: My first chair, sitting inside. I am definitely making a jig for the next couple of chairs, and thinking up a better way to line up the back to the sides properly.  Gonna have to buy some oil. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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Apr 30, 2015 09:49
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His Divine Shadow posted:What was your grandfather doing when it happened and did you identify the cause of the accident, did he use push sticks? I asked if he had a kickback and he said no. He said he doesn't really remember what happened, said it was so fast, and he didn't even feel it till after. He's pissed at himself. Mostly because he cant work now. I bet he buys that new Bosch table saw.
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Apr 30, 2015 13:39
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MickRaider posted:Are Kevlar/chain mail gloves worth the investment in the event of contact? I'd be more worried about a tooth on the saw blade grabbing the glove and pulling your hand into the blade. Same reason you don't wear your wedding ring when working in a machine shop -- feel free to google it, but it's pretty gross:  degloving Push block for running a table saw is the only real safe way, and keeping your body clear of the cutting area and boards when ripping in case they get flung.I'm really struggling with this with my Dad because he is in his 60's and stubborn as gently caress. His mantra is "Do as I say, not as I do", as he lectures me about safe handling of a chainsaw but then does a sideways cut with his leg right next to the chain. I'm trying to talk him into at least wearing a dust mask when he's sanding inside of his workshop because he has no dust collection set up, and he never wears goggles when sharpening stuff on the grinding wheel. Any suggestions on how to teach an old dog new (safer) tricks? I'm just hoping that whatever poo poo he's inhaling won't hurt him before old age takes him. 
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Apr 30, 2015 14:42
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ChaoticSeven posted:That sucks, was it really bad or relatively minor (well, as far as tablesaw cutting injuries go anyway)? 78 years, that's nuts. That looks awesome, although I'm probably wrong in my opinion here, but I thought it looked better before you put the fronts on, when you could see the joints and it was flat across the front.  This picture. That said, I think it's because it reminds me of the tiny ikea craft-stuff drawers I've got upstairs somewhere, which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. 
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Apr 30, 2015 15:12
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Spazz posted:I'd be more worried about a tooth on the saw blade grabbing the glove and pulling your hand into the blade. Same reason you don't wear your wedding ring when working in a machine shop -- feel free to google it, but it's pretty gross: I'm of your dad's generation, and short of something really traumatizing, probably nothing will get his attention. Some guys are just  as leather, and don't get beat down. I always used to wear at least a bandanna cutting or shaping lumber, glasses, ear protection....and still do, although it's a hobby for me now. I see obits from time to time of guys younger than me who worked cabinet shops dying from some pulmonary related thing. Their faces are gray in the pics, you know their lungs were 3/4 full of cellulose and whatever bonding glue and formaldehyde crap they put in particle board and mdf. I'll be damned if something I had to do for a living for years will be the end of me.
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Apr 30, 2015 15:14
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Always worth noting, this is totally worth the $$ And hell no to using gloves.
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Apr 30, 2015 15:57
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Spazz posted:Same reason you don't wear your wedding ring when working in a machine shop -- feel free to google it, but it's pretty gross: This is the one I'm going to struggle with. I lose stuff SO easily. But I know I need to lose the ring when I'm working with spinny things.
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Apr 30, 2015 18:01
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I can't get mine off, I had an injury on my knuckle (doing cleaning, in the house) that sliced a big flap open, somehow it healed back up, flaps usually don't but I guess it was substansial enough in this case. Anyway I got a big bump on my knuckle from that and I can't get my ring past that... Anyhoo, oiled the chair, bought a can of oil via my work, still drying at this stage, it's changed hue a bit since I took the photo: 
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Apr 30, 2015 18:05
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I might buy that ripper and see if he'll use it more. I watched him cutting a mortise on the table saw with his hand right next to the blade this past weekend. I figure it may take him losing a finger and his wife yelling at him before he finally wises up. Or maybe not -- his lower back is pretty hosed up from lifting a heavy box incorrectly and he refuses to use the lifting belt I gave him when moving stuff. thespaceinvader posted:This is the one I'm going to struggle with. I lose stuff SO easily. But I know I need to lose the ring when I'm working with spinny things. Get a chain and put it on that around your neck when you're not wearing it -- just make sure it's a sturdy and comfortable one. I suggest the same thing to people at the gym when lifting because injuries can happen when lifting while wearing rings, too.
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Apr 30, 2015 20:20
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Spazz posted:Get a chain and put it on that around your neck when you're not wearing it -- just make sure it's a sturdy and comfortable one. I suggest the same thing to people at the gym when lifting because injuries can happen when lifting while wearing rings, too. I think I would rather have a ring around my finger get caught on a high-powered fast-spinning tool than a chain around my neck. 
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Apr 30, 2015 20:24
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Bad Munki posted:I think I would rather have a ring around my finger get caught on a high-powered fast-spinning tool than a chain around my neck. You put the ring and chain under your shirt.
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Apr 30, 2015 21:14
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Magnus Praeda posted:You put the ring and chain under your shirt. But then it'd get your shirt as well. You be drawn into the cutter by not just your ring, but also by your necklace, and your shirt. Might as well save yourself the hassle and just clamp your dick in the chuck to begin with.
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Apr 30, 2015 22:42
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Deedle posted:Might as well save yourself the hassle and just clamp your dick in the chuck to begin with. Please don't kinkshame, thx.
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Apr 30, 2015 22:55
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Wear nothing but a jockstrap in the shop.
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Apr 30, 2015 23:07
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You also don't buy a chain that's going to be strong enough to pull your entire head in to a piece of machinery if it gets caught, nor loose enough that it's even hanging openly enough to do that. Tuck in it your shirt and you'll be fine.
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May 1, 2015 03:08
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Just wear a glove over it and it's all good.
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May 1, 2015 03:11
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I wear a full body condom when I'm in the shop.
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May 1, 2015 05:35
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Speaking of cutting body parts on saws... I managed to cut my pinky on the bandsaw on Monday. I was trimming bowl blanks and on the last one got sloppy. Was paying attention to my main fingers and the pinky curled around into the path of the blade on exiting the log. Zapped me good. Went through the nail, nail bed and into the bone. Had surgery on Wednesday, in a splint thing for 10 days and then a month or so of no straining it apparently. Good lesson for me to be more focussed and to build a sled of some sort for next time. Also to listen to my body and if it says it's time to finish for the day actually do so instead of trying to fit just one more in. Munki make sure you use unlubricated condoms, sawdust doesn't stick to them as easily
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May 1, 2015 06:59
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MrPete posted:Also listen to my body and if it says it's time to finish for the day actually do so instead of trying to fit just one more in. I struggle with this almost daily (work in general, not just woodworking). At the time I need to quit I usually am either behind the eight ball schedule wise or am amped up from doing something I really like to do. I usually keep going until I screw something up then I'll see the light and quit.
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May 1, 2015 08:33
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Welp, spent like $500+ on poo poo from Lee Valley and Amazon last night for my workshop. Buy once, cry once. Right guys? ...Right? 
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May 1, 2015 13:33
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MrPete posted:Good lesson for me to be more focussed and to build a sled of some sort for next time. Also to listen to my body and if it says it's time to finish for the day actually do so instead of trying to fit just one more in. This is the hardest lesson I've ever learned (and am still learning). I love working when it's work that I love and have a very hard time slowing myself down and stopping.
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May 1, 2015 14:58
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Urgh, ran out of outdoor wood glue so I decided to build my 2nd chair with polyurethane construction adhesive, much much messier and it's pitch black so the squeeze out is much uglier and definitely needs to be removed much more fastidiously.... On the plus side I almost finished the 2nd chair in one evening. Made an assembly jig too so it goes faster.
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May 1, 2015 20:46
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Planed finish(is that a thing?) done on one side, I couldn't resist throwing down some mineral spirits. I'm tempted to shellac it as is instead of sanding. It's not much rougher than what 220 would give and it looks so much better.  One more side to finish flattening with my new* joiner plane.  *Mockridge & Francis went out of business in 1868.
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May 2, 2015 02:44
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Bad Munki posted:I wear a full body condom when I'm in the shop. Well yeah, who's gonna take the time to remove their leisure wear every time they step into the shop? You'd burn through talcum powder way too fast.
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May 2, 2015 03:26
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His Divine Shadow posted:I'm revamping my homemade shop vac before I am starting on the DC project so it won't be such a huge clumsy lump in my shop. Took some inspiration from woodgears again and the V1 dust collector he made, I feel like I am turning into a woodgears shill. Do you have some sort of airlock or seal at the bottom of the cyclone? Does the garbage can fit up tightly to the green disc under the cyclone somehow that's not obvious in your pictures? The way you have it set up the vacuum is pulling air from both the inlet end and the bottom of the cyclone.
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May 2, 2015 05:05
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It's totally not finished in the picture so it doesn't work at all like that. I just put the major parts roughly where they'd go so you'd get an idea of what it'd look like. It does go up against the green disc when the bucket is mounted and it's air tight.
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May 2, 2015 08:20
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Where can I learn about planes? I was watching woodwork videos last night and the guy kept switching planes and I have no idea why or what they were supposed to do. "I'll start with a scrub plane, then switch to my modified #4, and later the #19" means nothing to me. I have a no-name 6 1 /2" block plane I've probably misused every time I've used it, but it would be charitable to call my work up to date joinery.
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May 2, 2015 14:25
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Cakefool posted:Where can I learn about planes? I was watching woodwork videos last night and the guy kept switching planes and I have no idea why or what they were supposed to do. I'm no plane expert but I can give a short summary. #7 or larger are jointer planes for making edges flat and true. #6 Foreplane, (before, earlier) for rough lumber. The first plane you use. Scrub plane, German plane for rough lumber, narrower and shorter than the English foreplane. #5 Jack plane, jack of all trades, expert at none. Can do anything. #1 - 4, Smoothing planes, for finishing a surface Block planes, for small lumber Then there are a host of specialized planes for joinery, decoration, or cutting difficult grain. edit, the numbers above are Stanley model numbers. Manufacturers each had their own system. Some stayed close to the Stanley scheme with numbering like 400, 500, etc. Others made up their own system. Look up Woodwright's Shop episodes with Chris Schwarz, they should all be available on PBS.com. edit2, http://video.pbs.org/video/2172600556/ wormil fucked around with this message at 16:39 on May 2, 2015 |
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May 2, 2015 16:32
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Cakefool posted:Where can I learn about planes? I was watching woodwork videos last night and the guy kept switching planes and I have no idea why or what they were supposed to do. This page gives a rather thorough look into the different types and their uses- http://woodandshop.com/woodworking-hand-tool-buying-guide-handplanes/
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May 2, 2015 16:39
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Recommend me a guide/tutorial about making a picture frame with nice corners and straight edges.
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May 2, 2015 19:01
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oxbrain posted:Planed finish(is that a thing?) Definitely is, yes, but usually the plane concerned is a cabinet scraper. Nice plane, too.
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May 2, 2015 19:10
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Thanks for the links, good reading. Another, different question: if I had a drill press is there a tool I can use to cut circular holes and grooves of any size in wood? Not a hole saw, because they come in specific sizes only.
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May 2, 2015 20:33
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Cakefool posted:Thanks for the links, good reading. This is what you're looking for-  http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/145072/Circle-Cutter-Small.aspx
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May 2, 2015 20:43
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So the tool I need to cut circles...is a circle cutter? I should have guessed, thank you.
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Don't try using one of those while holding the wood. Clamp it down firmly. They are not forgiving.
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