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huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
i'll vote for hillary if she makes references to galla placidia because im a classics fag

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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
there is only one elected official who has ever maintained their ideological purity, at great cost

RIP Dennis Kucinich

Rubies
Dec 30, 2005

Live Forever
Die Every Day

:h: :s: :d: :c:
I felt a bunch of feelings about Obama and was actually moved to tears when he was elected, imagining me and my fellow Americans from all walks of life tending public gardens and poo poo. Now I just see him as a (somewhat more likable than usual) corporate pawn. Can someone explain to a not-very-political person why this won't happen again with my main man Bernie? Honestly my mind is already running wild with visions of all the factories moving back and everyone volunteering at after school programs and I don't want to feel stupid again :/

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
i wish donald trump would start his own political party to make the US an explicit empire

say what you will about the trumpster, he's no empire denier

Oceanlife
Oct 6, 2008

Haha, nice one Punchy

Rubies posted:

I felt a bunch of feelings about Obama and was actually moved to tears when he was elected, imagining me and my fellow Americans from all walks of life tending public gardens and poo poo. Now I just see him as a (somewhat more likable than usual) corporate pawn. Can someone explain to a not-very-political person why this won't happen again with my main man Bernie? Honestly my mind is already running wild with visions of all the factories moving back and everyone volunteering at after school programs and I don't want to feel stupid again :/

Watch more Rush Limbaugh he understand how liberals think

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot

Rubies posted:

I felt a bunch of feelings about Obama and was actually moved to tears when he was elected, imagining me and my fellow Americans from all walks of life tending public gardens and poo poo. Now I just see him as a (somewhat more likable than usual) corporate pawn. Can someone explain to a not-very-political person why this won't happen again with my main man Bernie? Honestly my mind is already running wild with visions of all the factories moving back and everyone volunteering at after school programs and I don't want to feel stupid again :/

there's a nonzero chance he'll get assassinated by the teamsters so they can get their own guy up there

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Concerned Citizen posted:

there is only one elected official who has ever maintained their ideological purity, at great cost

RIP Dennis Kucinich

Dude could take sugar glass to head better than most politicians probably

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/m2tq5t/dennis-kucinich-s-improbable-success

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
bernie sanders' top political strategist, tad devine, helped viktor yanukovich win three separate elections. cold as ice

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat
Honestly it is super unlikely sanders will be elected, let alone be competitive, but supporting his candidacy is pretty important since it may force Clinton to move a little further left than she would otherwise. Also it never hurts to rally around a progressive voice in this awful culture of ours!

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001

Yivgev posted:

Hail, friend.

Hail to you.

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
Hail Satan!

-Bernie Sanders

Zev
Apr 3, 2009
Another 10 pages another $10!

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot
Hoping Bernie will reform the prison system

Seize private prisons, turn them into a gulag archipelago

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

Hot Dog Day #82 posted:

it may force Clinton to move a little further left than she would otherwise

Yeah she may even go as far center right as Barack Obama :chanpop:

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Rubies posted:

I felt a bunch of feelings about Obama and was actually moved to tears when he was elected, imagining me and my fellow Americans from all walks of life tending public gardens and poo poo. Now I just see him as a (somewhat more likable than usual) corporate pawn. Can someone explain to a not-very-political person why this won't happen again with my main man Bernie? Honestly my mind is already running wild with visions of all the factories moving back and everyone volunteering at after school programs and I don't want to feel stupid again :/

Obama kind of came out of nowhere and had no real context with which to judge his claims and promises. Bernie is running on essentially the same platform he's been publicly espousing since the 80s.

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
bernie sanders supports corrective rape for male misbehavior


just kidding, that's the rest of america

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001
Is Gulag that Hungarian pasta dish served with tomatoes and meatballs?

Deadbeat Poetry
Mar 6, 2004

Sorry if my costume scared you

Demonachizer posted:

Pretty sure he doesn't.

Hmm... almost the perfect candidate.

Oh well I'll still vote for him

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

Under the vegetable posted:

Obama kind of came out of nowhere and had no real context with which to judge his claims and promises. Bernie is running on essentially the same platform he's been publicly espousing since the 80s.

that and his claims and promises were no different from other blue dog democrats

but he's gonna close Guantanamo guys :3:

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

mdm posted:

that and his claims and promises were no different from other blue dog democrats

but he's gonna close Guantanamo guys :3:

Well, he said something about universal single-payer healthcare for like three or four minutes before quietly shifting into promoting Mitt Romney's Massachusetts health care plan.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Rubies posted:

I felt a bunch of feelings about Obama and was actually moved to tears when he was elected, imagining me and my fellow Americans from all walks of life tending public gardens and poo poo. Now I just see him as a (somewhat more likable than usual) corporate pawn. Can someone explain to a not-very-political person why this won't happen again with my main man Bernie? Honestly my mind is already running wild with visions of all the factories moving back and everyone volunteering at after school programs and I don't want to feel stupid again :/

if he somehow got elected bernie sanders would never be able to enact his agenda legislatively because the house will certainly not go to the democrats in 2016 (due to incumbency advantage and gerrymandering) and the senate would more likely than not remain republican as well. at best he could enact changes within existing statutory framework through executive orders and regulations, and appoint liberal justices to the supreme court (just as hillary would). he would have more leverage to control foreign policy but he is not exactly a peacenik. basically: if by act of god sanders became president, institutional inertia means that nothing would change except for the same gradual reforms that would occur under hillary. but he'd be more palatable.

sanders/ron paul 2016

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot

Fiend posted:

Is Gulag that Hungarian pasta dish served with tomatoes and meatballs?

youre thinking of the italo-hungarian dish gabagoulash

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
When Bernie Sanders takes his shirt off he's actually quite ripped, like groundskeeper Willy.

Rubies
Dec 30, 2005

Live Forever
Die Every Day

:h: :s: :d: :c:

Jagchosis posted:

if he somehow got elected bernie sanders would never be able to enact his agenda legislatively because the house will certainly not go to the democrats in 2016 (due to incumbency advantage and gerrymandering) and the senate would more likely than not remain republican as well. at best he could enact changes within existing statutory framework through executive orders and regulations, and appoint liberal justices to the supreme court (just as hillary would). he would have more leverage to control foreign policy but he is not exactly a peacenik. basically: if by act of god sanders became president, institutional inertia means that nothing would change except for the same gradual reforms that would occur under hillary. but he'd be more palatable.

sanders/ron paul 2016

:( but also kinda :)

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot

Under the vegetable posted:

Well, he said something about universal single-payer healthcare for like three or four minutes before quietly shifting into promoting Mitt Romney's Massachusetts health care plan.

white folks have to build up street cred for loving years or be born into a dynasty before they can pull off the blatant sheistiness of obama's career, i think we should write an article about black privilege vis-a-vis this fact

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot

InterFaced posted:

When Bernie Sanders takes his shirt off he's actually quite ripped, like groundskeeper Willy.

who invited putin's gang

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Jagchosis posted:

and appoint liberal justices to the supreme court (just as hillary would)

hahahahahahaha haahahaha lmao good one

Neptr
Mar 1, 2011
I see Bernie saying down with this and down with that, but what does Bernie want to bring up? Up with what, socialism?

I'd be all for that, I just want to see something constructive, not destructive

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Rubies posted:

I felt a bunch of feelings about Obama and was actually moved to tears when he was elected, imagining me and my fellow Americans from all walks of life tending public gardens and poo poo. Now I just see him as a (somewhat more likable than usual) corporate pawn. Can someone explain to a not-very-political person why this won't happen again with my main man Bernie? Honestly my mind is already running wild with visions of all the factories moving back and everyone volunteering at after school programs and I don't want to feel stupid again :/

Bernie will kill all of us, myself included, and when the last body has fallen he will turn his gun upon himself and end this horrible chapter in the earth's history. In heaven Jesus and Marx will put us to work digging ditches, while the unlucky will descend to hell and spend eternity arguing with Trotsky while hanging out on bean bags.

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
also I think republican primaries are an excellent target for hardline syndicalists, they've already got the red, just need a little splash of black

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
lol @ people that think bernie actually has a chance

Neptr
Mar 1, 2011

Under the vegetable posted:

hahahahahahaha haahahaha lmao good one

Can Hillary nominate herself to Supreme Court while holding office? There's no rules against that, are there?

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
^^ and she could have bill as the running mate and resign to fill the spot giving us a third bill clinton term

Neptr posted:

I see Bernie saying down with this and down with that, but what does Bernie want to bring up? Up with what, socialism?

I'd be all for that, I just want to see something constructive, not destructive

how about 1 trill in infrastructure spending

instant jobs and you're not going to be devoured by a collapsing bridge headed to work one day

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Under the vegetable posted:

hahahahahahaha haahahaha lmao good one

obama and clinton 1 did and they are thoroughly centrist

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
They say you get more conservative as you get older.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Jagchosis posted:

obama and clinton 1 did and they are thoroughly centrist

kagan and sotomayor own

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
they are cool people but i have no faith in Hillary to nominate anyone who isn't explicitly pro corp/bank/dereg

Male Tiers
Dec 27, 2012

Why don't you just lay down your weapons now?
I wish Bernie was not an old, white man and also not pro-Israel. Otherwise I think he is good. Also, I voted for Jill Stein in 2012. :wooper:

Neptr
Mar 1, 2011

huskarl_marx posted:

^^ and she could have bill as the running mate and resign to fill the spot giving us a third bill clinton term


how about 1 trill in infrastructure spending

instant jobs and you're not going to be devoured by a collapsing bridge headed to work one day

I like this because I cross a bridge twice a day that was built in the 1930s and got a D+ on it's last report card.

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Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
i guess we'll see what happens when it happens but she's certainly not going to have any better nominations than any other potential democratic president

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