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GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

fozzy fosbourne posted:

It's actually kind of bizarre that there aren't more really novel (and sometimes horrible) themes pasted on games. If you are just going to paste on a theme, why medieval village #106207 instead of Phoenix wright rip off or something

I imagine it's because nobody has an opinion on "farm simulator" so it's essentially a neutral gray, but some people may be like "ew sci fi" or "ew fantasy" or something. It's why Pret a Porter, which had a novel theme about being a fashion designer or something, is now being rethemed to be about game development.

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The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
You know, theme can be pretty important to me. I'm a very visual person and theme can get in the way of my enjoyment.

I can be professional and put that aside (my personal enjoyment might be at issue but my engagement and attention is something else) but when it's my personal enjoyment and/or collection there's just too much out there to spend time on the things I feel like is work.

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

GrandpaPants posted:

I imagine it's because nobody has an opinion on "farm simulator" so it's essentially a neutral gray, but some people may be like "ew sci fi" or "ew fantasy" or something. It's why Pret a Porter, which had a novel theme about being a fashion designer or something, is now being rethemed to be about game development.

Yeah, I remember reading that Ignacy basically totally regrets doing that theme since it was so repulsive to the average gamer I guess. I own a copy heh.

But, even then, game development is 10000000000 times more original than "guy going to a loving well in a village over and over" or whatever

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

fozzy fosbourne posted:

It's actually kind of bizarre that there aren't more really novel (and sometimes horrible) themes pasted on games. If you are just going to paste on a theme, why medieval village #106207 instead of Phoenix wright rip off or something

What's pretty funny about Dominion was that DXV apparently didn't play a bunch of stuff outside of Magic and his own games so he legitimately did not realize it would be the millionth "build a kingdom/castle in a medieval setting" game released. He's said he is not sure what he would have done instead but his usual theme was "gangsters".

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

GrandpaPants posted:

I imagine it's because nobody has an opinion on "farm simulator" so it's essentially a neutral gray, but some people may be like "ew sci fi" or "ew fantasy" or something.

Also people can have preconceived and very strong beliefs and opinions on what they think an e.g. Spaceship Simulator should be like and will automatically get all po'd when Ship Simulator 2014 isn't that.




"This game is nothing like what I think a dungeon crawler should be like but it's still a really solid game with some new and interesting things" said no review or comment ever.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
My wife doesn't like things that aren't "real" so she'd have a hard time with even Caverna because they're gnomes and gnomes aren't real. Maybe she could handle Agricola, since those seem to be humans. She loves Viticulture though, because it's wine and wine is very real.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD
Caverna is dwarves, not gnomes. Dwarves are real!

PlaneGuy
Mar 28, 2001

g e r m a n
e n g i n e e r i n g

Yam Slacker

Rutibex posted:

XXXenophile is actually a mechanically excellent game, but the art/theme is.....off
Warning, Erotic art drawn by Phil Foglio :nms:
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1627/xxxenophile

I thought http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1463/girl-genius-works was the non-porn version of that.

Though Girl Genius isn't much better....

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

PlaneGuy posted:

I thought http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1463/girl-genius-works was the non-porn version of that.

Though Girl Genius isn't much better....

Girl Genius is actually the version I played, but he was looking for "terrible" themes, not "mediocre".

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Theme is the sole reason I like Suburbia over Ludwig, despite many agreeing the latter is the better game mechanically. Then again, I'm fine with whatever theme as long as it suits the mechanics well and isn't creepy. I'm a big fan of Agricola's theme because the mechanics gel with it quite well, and I think Tragedy Looper's got a great theme as well despite myself not being a fan of anime.

Of course, it also helps a ton that I enjoy the gameplay of both games. But the right theme can really enhance a game (see BSG, or the comparisons between Dune and Rex, and a hundred other examples).

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams

Mega64 posted:

I'm a big fan of Agricola's theme because the mechanics gel with it quite well

When I played Caverna for the first time I hadn't played very many (if any) "designer" board games but even with basically no understanding or vocabulary to describe my experience, I walked away with that exact same thought.

Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

Guy A. Person posted:

What's pretty funny about Dominion was that DXV apparently didn't play a bunch of stuff outside of Magic and his own games so he legitimately did not realize it would be the millionth "build a kingdom/castle in a medieval setting" game released. He's said he is not sure what he would have done instead but his usual theme was "gangsters".

His next game was Kingdom Builder though..

PubicMice posted:

the hopefully-soon-to-be-released Kingdom Death: Monster

which gross rape-monster miniature are you most looking forward to?

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
Played two good games in the last few days. Elysium is a tableau drafting game that presents some interesting choices. We played it three player and really liked it.

Brew Masters looked kind of bad when I laid it out and read the rules, but it's a fairly tight processing game (in the style of Agricola but not really similar to it). What I noticed too is that the designer didn't stray too far. It would have been tempting to make the game more complex, but the design is clean and easy to play and explain. We played this two player and I'm anxious to play with more people (but not five).

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Bubble-T posted:

His next game was Kingdom Builder though..


which gross rape-monster miniature are you most looking forward to?

Kingdom Builder was a placeholder title, a parallel to Dominion's "Castle Builder" working title, but Queen wanted to get their DXV game out so fast they didn't bother replacing it.

EvilChameleon
Nov 20, 2003

In my infinite money,
the jimmies rustle softly.
Edit: I played Expedition: Northwest Passage tonight and it made me wonder why there aren't more games set in icy wastelands. What's the deal with all these goddam tropical islands? I want frost and snow and death on the ice.

Big McHuge posted:

I think I'm the lone dissenter in the thread that doesn't enjoy Roll. I love Race, and it just seems like a far more elegant game than Roll. I found it to be a bit fiddly and very very slow to start out.

I also didn't like that they didn't include enough tiles to give everyone a "draw two and pick one" for your starting planets. I figured that they would have learned from Race on that issue, since the expansions addressed it and made the game much more enjoyable.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not completely panning it. I think it's actually pretty decent for a dice game, I just think it's a step down from playing the original.

I agree with these points but Roll is still a good game. It also comes in a big box which is a selling point to some? I dunno.

PubicMice
Feb 14, 2012

looking for information on posts

Bubble-T posted:

which gross rape-monster miniature are you most looking forward to?

i'm sorry for holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play it

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

EvilChameleon posted:

What's the deal with all these goddam tropical islands? I want frost and snow and death on the ice.

Because icy wastelands give you Dead of Winter while tropical islands give you Archipelago.

EBag
May 18, 2006

The only thing I don't like about Roll is how much exploring can slow down the game. In Race everyone just grabs their cards and that's that, but in Roll you have to wait for people to look at all their tiles, decide which ones they're keeping and then discarding unwanted ones and repeat as necessary. You can have like 4 or 5 explores quickly going up to 6+ tiles multiple times. Otherwise I think it's a nice alternative to Race, but I agree Race is a deeper and more elegant game.


E: VVVV Oooh those are awesome, bags for the season tiles would be great!

EBag fucked around with this message at 05:05 on May 1, 2015

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

Some pretty sweet Keyflower bags added to the big artscow sale thing: https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/190164/direct-links-artscowcowcow-draw-bag-designes/page/4

Texmo
Jun 12, 2002

'Time fer a waaagh from above!
Pubic Mice, congratulations on a fantastic username.
If you enjoy assembling miniatures then you could try either Space Hulk or Dreadfleet. Games Workshop, despite being despicably overpriced and generally a Bad Company, produce the absolute best miniatures for assembly/posability, and if you absolutely must avoid wargames, then either of these would be a decent way to scratch the itch.

That, or you could buy a 40k kit or 3 and use them to kitbash inquisitorial/cultist figures and use them to play those D&D type games they have.
There's also a similar situation for Malifaux with their Through The Breach make-a-steampunk-person kits, but it seems to lack the kind of structured game you want.

I've got the same urge (sucker for games-with-nice-miniatures, assembly-a-bonus), and have found exactly jack and poo poo for decent game model kits outside of GW products.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Texmo posted:

Pubic Mice, congratulations on a fantastic username.
If you enjoy assembling miniatures then you could try either Space Hulk or Dreadfleet. Games Workshop, despite being despicably overpriced and generally a Bad Company, produce the absolute best miniatures for assembly/posability, and if you absolutely must avoid wargames, then either of these would be a decent way to scratch the itch.

That, or you could buy a 40k kit or 3 and use them to kitbash inquisitorial/cultist figures and use them to play those D&D type games they have.
There's also a similar situation for Malifaux with their Through The Breach make-a-steampunk-person kits, but it seems to lack the kind of structured game you want.

I've got the same urge (sucker for games-with-nice-miniatures, assembly-a-bonus), and have found exactly jack and poo poo for decent game model kits outside of GW products.

I submit Warmachine Warjacks for your approval. If necessary I will provide pictures. Warmachine jacks are amazing for posability for most of them.

PubicMice
Feb 14, 2012

looking for information on posts

Texmo posted:

Dreadfleet

a one-box minis wargame about fantasy pirates? sold

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

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PubicMice posted:

a one-box minis wargame about fantasy pirates? sold

seriously, you deserve dreadfleet.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Got to play Ginkgopolis tonight -- really solid abstract. Sort of gave me the same feeling Keyflower does (although it's quite a bit shorter -- 45 min, and at its core its an area control game). I think I'm a sucker for games that have a bunch of mechanics (in this case: drafting, area control, tile placement, and simultaneous action selection) that manage to support each other nicely.

e: oh cool I didn't even know it was by the same guy who did Troyes now I want to play that even more

Zurui
Apr 20, 2005
Even now...



Is Rivet Wars any good, or did my friend just bust a C note for a lovely game? What should I expect?

PubicMice
Feb 14, 2012

looking for information on posts

Broken Loose posted:

seriously, you deserve dreadfleet.

i'm sorry i like things you don't, gonna go kill myself now

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

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PubicMice posted:

i'm sorry i like things you don't, gonna go kill myself now

the gently caress do you care? it has minis and you don't give a poo poo about game quality or company quality. you can take my post at face value and it's not an insult at all.

if you're serious, though, don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out.

The End
Apr 16, 2007

You're welcome.
So, seeing as Hasbro's going to be doing all the Dominion printings (or at least a bunch of it) from here on out, I decided to take the plunge and grab the last two expansions I needed in their glorious German printed form from my flgs. Adventures had just showed up, so I said gently caress it and grabbed it too. It's a US printing. No miscuts or anything egregious, but I can confirm that in the process of unwrapping and sorting all the cards from Adventures and two German printed expansions, it instantly confirmed for me the difference in card stock. It is true, the US printed cards are thinner (and the box insert is shittier, bizarrely) - you can see it in how they bend and just holding ten cards, you can instantly feel the difference in weight. It's not different enough to make them weird to shuffle, but it's different enough that some people are going to get their nose out of joint.

PubicMice
Feb 14, 2012

looking for information on posts

Broken Loose posted:

the gently caress do you care? it has minis and you don't give a poo poo about game quality or company quality. you can take my post at face value and it's not an insult at all.

if you're serious, though, don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out.

why do you care so much about what i do or don't like?

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


PubicMice posted:

why do you care so much about what i do or don't like?
You never me broken loose before have you?

Tendales
Mar 9, 2012

The End posted:

So, seeing as Hasbro's going to be doing all the Dominion printings (or at least a bunch of it) from here on out, I decided to take the plunge and grab the last two expansions I needed in their glorious German printed form from my flgs. Adventures had just showed up, so I said gently caress it and grabbed it too. It's a US printing. No miscuts or anything egregious, but I can confirm that in the process of unwrapping and sorting all the cards from Adventures and two German printed expansions, it instantly confirmed for me the difference in card stock. It is true, the US printed cards are thinner (and the box insert is shittier, bizarrely) - you can see it in how they bend and just holding ten cards, you can instantly feel the difference in weight. It's not different enough to make them weird to shuffle, but it's different enough that some people are going to get their nose out of joint.

It's kind of amazing how Hasbro, of all companies, is complete poo poo at printing cards. Just completely awful. Any hasbro game that isn't M:tG is almost guaranteed to have absurdly bad production quality.

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

PubicMice posted:

why do you care so much about what i do or don't like?

Because your an rear end in a top hat.

Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

PubicMice posted:

why do you care so much about what i do or don't like?

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

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Tekopo posted:

You never me broken loose before have you?

i was never about "liking" things or giving a poo poo what you like. i'm always about recommending things and promoting discussion. if some shitbird wants to come in, google us for literally any random miniatures games quality be damned, make suicide jokes, and then try to have an ironic meltdown, i reserve every right to tell him to get the gently caress out.

Funso Banjo
Dec 22, 2003

Broken Loose posted:

seriously, you deserve dreadfleet.

You deserve Munchkin, Broken.

You really really do.

In a perfect world, you'd never have the time required to poo poo on anyone else, because you'd be stuck in an infinite loop of Munchkin. There'd be a table next to yours, and it would have Dominion set up on it. But through divine intervention you would never be able to stop playing Munchkin. Just steal occasional glances at the Dominion game nearby.

Funso Banjo fucked around with this message at 09:44 on May 1, 2015

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

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Funso Banjo posted:

You deserve Munchkin, Broken.

You really really do.

In a perfect world, you'd never have the time required to poo poo on anyone else, because you'd be stuck in an infinite loop of Munchkin. There'd be a table next to yours, and it would have Dominion set up on it. But through divine intervention you would never be able to stop playing Munchkin. Just be able to cast occasional glances at the Dominion game nearby.

see? this is what i mean. idiots like funso banjo with no reading comprehension think i'm making GBS threads on them when i say, "hey, there's something better out there." the cult of ignorance that is the internet would rather assume i'm out to get them instead of just having standards. just like i expect somebody to say "u mad" or the equivalent any second now because i called somebody out on their bullshit.

Funso Banjo
Dec 22, 2003

Broken Loose posted:

see? this is what i mean. idiots like funso banjo with no reading comprehension think i'm making GBS threads on them when i say, "hey, there's something better out there." the cult of ignorance that is the internet would rather assume i'm out to get them instead of just having standards. just like i expect somebody to say "u mad" or the equivalent any second now because i called somebody out on their bullshit.

I don't think you're making GBS threads on me, or out to get me, Broken Loose. Not at all, we haven't argued in a long time.

But this immediate jump to call me part of the ignorance that is the internet just because I suggest you deserve a game by Steve Jackson, just reinforces that you really need to be in that infinite loop and unable to get unreasonably angry at people.

I'm just having a joke, don't get so angry. (I wouldn't really wish infinite Munchkin on anyone.)

Funso Banjo fucked around with this message at 10:03 on May 1, 2015

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade

Funso Banjo posted:

You deserve Munchkin, Broken.

You really really do.

In a perfect world, you'd never have the time required to poo poo on anyone else, because you'd be stuck in an infinite loop of Munchkin. There'd be a table next to yours, and it would have Dominion set up on it. But through divine intervention you would never be able to stop playing Munchkin. Just steal occasional glances at the Dominion game nearby.

Funso Banjo posted:

I don't think you're making GBS threads on me, or out to get me, Broken Loose. Not at all, we haven't argued in a long time.

But this immediate jump to call me part of the ignorance that is the internet just because I suggest you deserve a game by Steve Jackson, just reinforces that you really need to be in that infinite loop and unable to get unreasonably angry at people.

Seriously gently caress off.

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
Ah, that's some vintage BG thread right here.

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Durendal
Jan 25, 2008

Who made you God to say
"I'll take your sheep from you?"



Eh, I prefer Standard BG thread. A lot less broken posters in that format.

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