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I didn't like cameron espsoito the first time she was on the show but i did like her this time, and i think its just because she was better on the show this time. that said, i specifically remember thinking halfway through the show "this straight cis white man cameron esposito is pretty funny, like all people who fit into those demographic categories and specifically just those people". cheers.
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I don't like Cameron either typically but she was really funny this episode. I think because she wasn't riding on the lesbian schtick.
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May 1, 2015 12:36
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Shnooks posted:the lesbian schtick. 
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May 1, 2015 14:13
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I didn't care for Scott Aukerman when he was riding his straight guy schtick, always talking about his wife.
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May 1, 2015 14:23
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Shnooks posted:I think because she wasn't riding on the lesbian schtick. My wiiiife and me found her funny on No You Shut Up, so we watched some of her standup. I think the "schtick" you're running into is that she's a relatively new comedian, and she kinda falls back to established jokes because she lacks a really large backlog. Some of it strikes me as a defense mechanism thing, and we definitely noticed it as we watched more of her standup/interviews, but I think it's really just a symptom of being newly popular-ish and falling back on known safe zones. You'd see the same thing with a good deal of ANY comic just starting out/starting to come into their own. There was an ancient Louie CK standup special from the 90's on HBO GO or Amazon we watched a few months ago. That was excrutiating for similar reasons. Just give her some time and don't judge her future output on the limited stuff she's done so far.
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I'm usually not a fan of Chris Rock and his black schtick but he was pretty good on his last appearance. Same with Aziz Ansari and his relationships-in-modern-times schtick. Wish Louis CK would drop his middle aged dad schtick! Hey Patton Oswalt and Brian Posehn, we get it. You're nerds! Yo Trevor Noah, Apartheid ended 20 years ago. You can stop with the whole race relations schtick. Everytime Cameron makes a podcast appearance, this place reads like the Kotaku comments section. Every comedian has a shtick. Newer comics rely on it more than comics doing it 20 years. What it comes down to is people uncomfortable with a gay woman talking about what it's like to be a gay woman in an age where gays have more rights that ever but still face homophobia in subtle ways (besides all the obvious state sponsored ways). Like calling her experiences a schtick. WerthersWay fucked around with this message at 15:34 on May 1, 2015 |
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May 1, 2015 15:29
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Mordecai's "taking one comment and blowing it up to include the whole forums" schtick is getting pretty tired, I wish he would expand his posting act.
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May 1, 2015 15:52
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He may be over-reacting, but he's right that minority comics get a surprising of undeserved poo poo for doing material about being that minority. If Maria Bamford does a set that's like 90% being a neurotic, depressed middle-aged white lady no one acts like it's a "schtick" that needs to be dropped, it's understood that this is her comic persona and her chosen subject matter. Of course Cameron Esposito wasn't "riding her lesbian schtick", this wasn't Ask A Lesbian Part 4 or her stand-up comedy act about being a lesbian.
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May 1, 2015 18:52
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WHy, of all comedians to pick, Maria bamford.
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Every comedian should act like a straight white middle class able-bodied man of a healthy weight or risk being totally unrelatable. 
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May 1, 2015 21:28
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Mr. Squishy posted:WHy, of all comedians to pick, Maria bamford. Yeah, she's the best.
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May 1, 2015 22:56
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I think she was mentioned specifically because she's universally loved (obviously) but still has a very specific and well-defined wheelhouse. It's a supportive "this is good, so why not that" comparison
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Maria Bamford is terrible and her "depressed housewife persona" is awful. I don't care if she does comedy about being a minority, I just feel like her jokes are kind of blah about it. Shlomo Palestein posted:My wiiiife and me found her funny on No You Shut Up, so we watched some of her standup. I think the "schtick" you're running into is that she's a relatively new comedian, and she kinda falls back to established jokes because she lacks a really large backlog. Some of it strikes me as a defense mechanism thing, and we definitely noticed it as we watched more of her standup/interviews, but I think it's really just a symptom of being newly popular-ish and falling back on known safe zones. You'd see the same thing with a good deal of ANY comic just starting out/starting to come into their own. Pretty much that. There's plenty of ways to be funny about whatever minority group you're in. There's also a lot of ways to not be funny about it. Shnooks fucked around with this message at 00:26 on May 2, 2015 |
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May 2, 2015 00:24
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Cameron Esposito is hilarious and adorable. Hope this helps!
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May 2, 2015 02:03
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Poopy Palpy posted:I didn't care for Scott Aukerman when he was riding his straight guy schtick, always talking about his wife. His former girlfriend (who he later married.)
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Shnooks posted:Maria Bamford is terrible I'm glad someone has finally come out and said this. Even though it's wrong.
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May 2, 2015 03:41
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Shnooks posted:Maria Bamford is terrible How dare you slam the Bam.
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May 2, 2015 03:51
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If you hate the bammer there is something wrong with you
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May 2, 2015 04:12
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Yeah endlessly complaining about recent guests of the show isnt good enough anymore. Let's poo poo on maria bamford for no reason.
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May 2, 2015 04:40
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This show sucks and I'm sick of alt comedy. The only good guest in the last year was Tom green explaining that he enjoys creating content.
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the only guest i have ever liked was the guy that poo poo all over harris wittles bad foam corner. those jokes aren't even funny
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May 2, 2015 17:50
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:This show sucks and I'm sick of alt comedy. The only good guest in the last year was Tom green explaining that he enjoys creating content. EDIt: also andy daly is literally stalin
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May 2, 2015 17:51
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imo this discussion of what people do and do not find funny is funnier than anything comedy bang bang ever did. this should be a podcast.
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May 2, 2015 18:08
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I hate this podcast. The only good thing is never listening to it.
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May 2, 2015 18:09
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I tried listening to superego today but I don't think I like it though there are some funny bits. It feels so, i dunno, edited? I think I'd like it better without like the sound effects and production and it was just the comedians
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ImPureAwesome posted:I tried listening to superego today but I don't think I like it though there are some funny bits. It feels so, i dunno, edited? I think I'd like it better without like the sound effects and production and it was just the comedians Just think of it as a sketch show rather than an improv show. Some other edited improv podcasts (ie Make Yourself Comfy) do the same "improvise then edit" thing, but Superego actually has them go back and do multiple takes and they prompt each other to do things. I think it's just equivalent to a sketch that happened to be written on the spot.
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feedmyleg posted:Just think of it as a sketch show rather than an improv show. Some other edited improv podcasts (ie Make Yourself Comfy) do the same "improvise then edit" thing, but Superego actually has them go back and do multiple takes and they prompt each other to do things. I think it's just equivalent to a sketch that happened to be written on the spot. Yeah, I guess maybe I just don't like sketch comedy that much. So im left wishing there was more unedited improving
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ImPureAwesome posted:Yeah, I guess maybe I just don't like sketch comedy that much. So im left wishing there was more unedited improving Assuming you already listen to I4H, I'd recommend You Tell It, a new podcast from the UCBNY crew. Nobody "big" on there, but a lot of great improvisers from the New York improv community. ASSSSCAT/Armando style show, solid improv with some storytelling. Make Yourself Comfy is also fun and shares some of the same crew, but does have sound effects - though very minimal editing. The Todd Glass Show can be looked at through the lens of being a sketch show written on the fly but with no editing. But it's not for everyone.
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feedmyleg posted:Assuming you already listen to I4H, I'd recommend You Tell It, a new podcast from the UCBNY crew. Nobody "big" on there, but a lot of great improvisers from the New York improv community. ASSSSCAT/Armando style show, solid improv with some storytelling. Make Yourself Comfy is also fun and shares some of the same crew, but does have sound effects - though very minimal editing. The Todd Glass Show can be looked at through the lens of being a sketch show written on the fly but with no editing. But it's not for everyone. Yeah I listen to i4h and its really good but can be uneven as sometimes the improv feels too much like a cover song of the anecdote or video they just heard or if besser gets stuck on a topic like that guy yelling at the trumpet player that was never funny but can't let it go. The live shows where they can check their bits against an audience's laughter are usually really good episodes as is anything with gabrus. Thanks for the recs on the other stuff though I'll check em out
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I feel like improv is crucial to Superego because a lot of the funniest stuff is the weird loose unpolished rambling, like Matt Gourley's legendary "confidently start a sentence with no earthly idea how to end it" thing, or people understandably becoming confused about what's happening ("I'm a woman"). I had the same initial reaction - that it seemed overproduced - but it grows on you. It takes a few episodes to get the format, IMO.
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May 2, 2015 23:33
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Periodiko posted:I feel like improv is crucial to Superego because a lot of the funniest stuff is the weird loose unpolished rambling, like Matt Gourley's legendary "confidently start a sentence with no earthly idea how to end it" thing, or people understandably becoming confused about what's happening ("I'm a woman"). I had the same initial reaction - that it seemed overproduced - but it grows on you. It takes a few episodes to get the format, IMO. That and because there's a bunch of sketches in each there's bound to be some you don't like as much. Like Cylon jim and Phil do nothing for me at all, but then two minutes later you get a Family Feud with Patton Oswalt having a nervous breakdown and everything's fine again.
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The one karaoke section redeemed Cylon Jim and Phil for me, but otherwise yeah it's pretty weak.
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I miss Roy Cabras. I guess Jeff Davis is too busy making bathtubs full of money doing ComedySportz.
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Periodiko posted:I feel like improv is crucial to Superego because a lot of the funniest stuff is the weird loose unpolished rambling, like Matt Gourley's legendary "confidently start a sentence with no earthly idea how to end it" thing, or people understandably becoming confused about what's happening ("I'm a woman"). I had the same initial reaction - that it seemed overproduced - but it grows on you. It takes a few episodes to get the format, IMO. The production becomes a necessity when you hear their unedited segments, because the environment that encourages such silly, unpredictable improv also requires a lot of time for exploration (as heard in that link)
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I'm literally the only person who said he didn't enjoy Cameron Esposito in this episode but you guys sure love bitching about any sort of criticism of a guest. And if I'm not allowed to call out her hacky lesbian schtick I give up on being a gay alternative comedy nerd. If you only ever make jokes about some shallow, one word aspect of yourself like the fact that you're fat or gay I stand by thinking you're a lame comedian. She goes to that well A LOT (happily not in this appearance which I acknowledged).
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May 4, 2015 09:03
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Also Maria bamford isnt funny
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May 4, 2015 09:13
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The line-up for today's anniversary show is completely insane.
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Oh if only I could post in this thread but the ~TIME KEEPER~ code forbids me
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I thought the month abbreviations would have to come to an end this week, but Scott found a way.
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Wax Lion posted:I'm literally the only person who said he didn't enjoy Cameron Esposito in this episode but you guys sure love bitching about any sort of criticism of a guest. And if I'm not allowed to call out her hacky lesbian schtick I give up on being a gay alternative comedy nerd. If you only ever make jokes about some shallow, one word aspect of yourself like the fact that you're fat or gay I stand by thinking you're a lame comedian. She goes to that well A LOT (happily not in this appearance which I acknowledged). Except for Gabriel Iglesias right? Every time he says "fluffy" I LOL.
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