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Cubey posted:hillary does not need sanders to win the presidential election. if she ran unopposed for the democratic primary she would still beat the republicans because they have zero electable candidates and this is not going to change. you're off your rocker if you buy what you are trying to sell here. Hillary going basically unopposed by the left and cruising into a coronation would cause some problems, a lot of people would split off and go third party or not vote at all. It would be similar to 2000. Especially if the Republicans pick someone that isn't immediately identifiable as a crazy person, like Jeb for example. Hillary's not going to let us voters gently caress this up for her. If the left needs a nod before they get scorned and ignored for 8 years, Hillary is willing to let that nod be the symbolic and non-threatening candidacy of Bernie Sanders.
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City of Tampa posted:Bernie says he's independent and says he's a socialist but he always votes with the Democrats; he is a good little partisan. You act like you say facts but you're not actually doing that. Pee straight up into the air.
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rezatahs posted:even though i'm starting to sincerely believe this grand clinton-sanders-goldman-sachs master scheme of yours(lol) it's going to backfire hard when crazy lefties like me still won't vote for the hilldawg in the general you won't need to. you'll be able to cast your vote for the sandman in the general
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City of Tampa posted:Especially if the Republicans pick someone that isn't immediately identifiable as a crazy person, like Jeb for example. yeah bro, because when i think of electable reublicans, another bush is the first thing that springs to mind
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City of Tampa's insane speculation is making me pee straight up into the air.
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rezatahs posted:even though i'm starting to sincerely believe this grand clinton-sanders-goldman-sachs master scheme of yours(lol) it's going to backfire hard when crazy lefties like me still won't vote for the hilldawg in the general Bernie's candidacy will lend enough false legitimacy to this MTV reality show that many self-described liberals will "reluctantly" end up voting for Hillary in the election.
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Under the vegetable posted:City of Tampa's insane speculation is making me pee straight up into the air. i just tubgirld myself after reading his posts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0dzgSfFQu8
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Cubey posted:yeah bro, because when i think of electable reublicans, another bush is the first thing that springs to mind Wait until the media spends a few months spinning him as a moderate conservative with a record of cooperation and fiscal responsibility, he's the smart Bush after all. And he probably won't say anything too ridiculous during the campaign. You won't get a 47% video out of Jeb. We live in an insane country.
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City of Tampa posted:Bernie's candidacy will lend enough false legitimacy to this MTV reality show that many self-described liberals will "reluctantly" end up voting for Hillary in the election. i guess that's their freedom of choice to rock the vote how they see fit  sanders 2016
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City of Tampa posted:Wait until the media spends a few months spinning him as a moderate conservative with a record of cooperation and fiscal responsibility, he's the smart Bush after all. And he probably won't say anything too ridiculous during the campaign. You won't get a 47% video out of Jeb. it does not matter how the media tries to spin him, the republicans do not have a strong enough voter base to win a presidential election no matter the candidate.
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Net neutrality won at the FCC. Iran-American relations improving. Sanders is running for president. Political news in the past year is failing to validate my crushing nihilism 
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Hobo By Design posted:Net neutrality won at the FCC. Iran-American relations improving. Sanders is running for president. Political news in the past year is failing to validate my crushing nihilism i heard the new star wars trailer looks good but i haven't seen it for myself
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Cubey posted:it does not matter how the media tries to spin him, the republicans do not have a strong enough voter base to win a presidential election no matter the candidate. ... unless shitloads of Democrats stay home or vote third party. And Good Democrat Bernie Sanders is making sure that he herds the stray liberals into Hillary's pen for her.
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if u want to see the look on Hillary's face when she loses again, 
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filibernster in process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw
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has this been posted yet http://digital.vpr.net/post/listen-highlights-bernie-sanders-1987-folk-album
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ethanol posted:has this been posted yet yes but i would hate for anyone to miss it http://digital.vpr.net/post/listen-highlights-bernie-sanders-1987-folk-album
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City of Tampa posted:Bernie says he's independent and says he's a socialist but he always votes with the Democrats; he is a good little partisan. I mean that is basically what will happen, but I think it's safe to say Bernie is making a good faith effort to pull the dialogue to the left, and he knows that the best way for him to do so is pose as credible a threat in the primary as possible, so he'll be doing his best to win. We just all know that it won't happen barring an act of god or similar. Also, c'mon, Wall Street will do just fine regardless of who is elected, unless its someone so crazy that they cause a nuclear armageddon.
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jarofpiss posted:yes but i would hate for anyone to miss it
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ethanol posted:has this been posted yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdkNstzTOs 
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May 2, 2015 17:32
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I will say though, being able to use  for Hillary again would be pretty great.
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It'll be interesting to see who starts throwing their support behind Sanders in the coming months.
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gently caress the Republic. posted:It'll be interesting to see who starts throwing their support behind Sanders in the coming months. get behind Bernie or get in front of the wall
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z0glin Warchief posted:... How crazy would nuclear armageddon be though, really? Most of the problems in the world today are due to overpopulation; if we suddenly had a thousandth of the population most of those problems would disappear. Admittedly the near-term poisoning of the atmosphere and loss of biodiversity would present significant challenges, but the best road forward for humanity and the health of the planet may be a nuclear holocaust or other mass extinction event. All I'm saying is maybe it'd be like burning a forest every once in a while so it can start anew, maybe it'd work out okay.
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z0glin Warchief posted:There's been like 5 minutes without a post? Good reason to I grew up with bernie and even worked for bernie, and he is a god drat genius and would be an awesome president.
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Stop your messing around (ah-ah-ah) Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah) Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah) Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah) Bernie A message to you, Bernie A message to you Stop your fooling around (ah-ah-ah) Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah) Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah) Else you'll wind up in jail (ah-ah-ah) Bernie A message to you, Bernie A message to you Stop your messing around (ah-ah-ah) Better think of your future (ah-ah-ah) Time you straighten right out (ah-ah-ah) Creating problems in town (ah-ah-ah) Bernie A message to you, Bernie A message to you, Bernie Oh, it's a message to you, Bernie Yeah, it's a message to you, Bernie
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Broken Machine posted:How crazy would nuclear armageddon be though, really? Most of the problems in the world today are due to overpopulation; if we suddenly had a thousandth of the population most of those problems would disappear. Admittedly the near-term poisoning of the atmosphere and loss of biodiversity would present significant challenges, but the best road forward for humanity and the health of the planet may be a nuclear holocaust or other mass extinction event. All I'm saying is maybe it'd be like burning a forest every once in a while so it can start anew, maybe it'd work out okay. 
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z0glin Warchief posted:I mean that is basically what will happen, but I think it's safe to say Bernie is making a good faith effort to pull the dialogue to the left, and he knows that the best way for him to do so is pose as credible a threat in the primary as possible, so he'll be doing his best to win. We just all know that it won't happen barring an act of god or similar. The only part of Hillary that's going to be pulled to the left is her rhetoric, temporarily. The left doesn't have the kind of money needed to make Hillary change any of her views or plans. Good faith or not, the only role that Bernie's candidacy has in this election is lending legitimacy to Hillary's coronation and bringing stray liberals back to the party for the general election. The odd part about all of the disagreement with me is that nobody really even questions the fact that Hillary is destined to win and that Bernie will endorse her. If it's fixed then why the gently caress are you helping to make it look like it's not?
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City of Tampa posted:The only part of Hillary that's going to be pulled to the left is her rhetoric, temporarily. The left doesn't have the kind of money needed to make Hillary change any of her views or plans. Good faith or not, the only role that Bernie's candidacy has in this election is lending legitimacy to Hillary's coronation and bringing stray liberals back to the party for the general election. it doesn't matter what bernie is coaxed into doing if he drops out of the running, i will not vote for hillary. as long as everyone else here resolves to do the same republican victory be damned it will not matter how much fuckery is being done because the message that we cannot be easily bought will still reign
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City of Tampa posted:The only part of Hillary that's going to be pulled to the left is her rhetoric, temporarily. The left doesn't have the kind of money needed to make Hillary change any of her views or plans. Good faith or not, the only role that Bernie's candidacy has in this election is lending legitimacy to Hillary's coronation and bringing stray liberals back to the party for the general election. A strong showing by Bernie would (could) do a lot of good in building support and probably campaign infrastructure for more left candidates at the state and local level--which is one of the most important things that can be done at the moment, because, as you well know, national politics aren't going to break the Wall Street stranglehold anytime soon.
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Broken Machine posted:How crazy would nuclear armageddon be though, really? Most of the problems in the world today are due to overpopulation; if we suddenly had a thousandth of the population most of those problems would disappear. Admittedly the near-term poisoning of the atmosphere and loss of biodiversity would present significant challenges, but the best road forward for humanity and the health of the planet may be a nuclear holocaust or other mass extinction event. All I'm saying is maybe it'd be like burning a forest every once in a while so it can start anew, maybe it'd work out okay. I don't want to fight Mad Max dudes wearing assless chaps.
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City of Tampa posted:The only part of Hillary that's going to be pulled to the left is her rhetoric, temporarily. The left doesn't have the kind of money needed to make Hillary change any of her views or plans. Good faith or not, the only role that Bernie's candidacy has in this election is lending legitimacy to Hillary's coronation and bringing stray liberals back to the party for the general election. Everyone questions this though? No one who is coming in specifically to vote for Bernie has any interest in suddenly switching and voting for Hillary. Are you Karl Rove or something that you need to rely on false assertions to this level?
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