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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

TEAYCHES posted:

I will only vote Republican if Rand Paul wins the nomination. I think he has a great platform and his record in the senate is inspiring.

Sure is great of you to admit you looove racism!

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Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

TEAYCHES posted:

Watch out, you're talking to fishmech. This isn't just some random D&D extra you're dealing with here. Tread carefully.

I'm completely aware who fishmech is.

Series DD Funding
Nov 25, 2014

by exmarx

Under the vegetable posted:

This lifetime rich white man backed by banks and corporations is the worst ever and will kill our country! This lifetime rich white woman backed by banks and corporations, however, is a shining light of progress.

Now you're getting it.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Under the vegetable posted:

This lifetime rich white man backed by banks and corporations is the worst ever and will kill our country! This lifetime rich white woman backed by banks and corporations, however, is a shining light of progress.

*shamelessly promotes someone to POTUS, abandoning the bully pulpit for actual change for marginalized people, in order to further tokenism* progress

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Nintendo Kid posted:

Sure is great of you to admit you looove racism!

How is it racist to support holding communities accountable for their own actions?

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
I can't wait for Bruce Jenner to run on the Republican ticket in 2020, those conversations will be fun.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

The nation wasn't ready for a Ron Paul revolution, so I'll settle for the Rand Paul evolution.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Hillary Clinton is neo-liberal as hell and on part with European Conservatives. Bernie Sanders is the closest you lot will have to an actual leftist.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Accelerationism is pretty dumb but I'm never going to vote for Hillary. If Sanders doesn't pull off a miracle I'll just vote for Jill Stein.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Nintendo Kid posted:

Sure is great of you to admit you looove racism!

Okay not being ironic or shitposting here for a second, do you have a single fact to back that up?

Honest question if you have evidence of Rand Paul being racist I want to see it in order to enrich my decision making

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Accelerationism is pretty dumb but I'm never going to vote for Hillary. If Sanders doesn't pull off a miracle I'll just vote for Jill Stein.

I live in a blue state so this is pretty much what I'm doing too. Hell I could just vote for Jill Stein regardless and my vote would mean the same.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Segmentation Fault posted:

Okay not being ironic or shitposting here for a second, do you have a single fact to back that up?

Honest question if you have evidence of Rand Paul being racist I want to see it in order to enrich my decision making

EDIT: my bad, misread as "Ron Paul," not "Rand Paul."

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Fluo posted:

Hillary Clinton is neo-liberal as hell and on part with European Conservatives. Bernie Sanders is the closest you lot will have to an actual leftist.

But as a woman she will bbring a new level of sophistication and compassion to the White house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_x04Gn3-2g

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Accelerationism is pretty dumb but I'm never going to vote for Hillary. If Sanders doesn't pull off a miracle I'll just vote for Jill Stein.

Yes, honestly outside of my dumb joke this is what I'll be doing.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Segmentation Fault posted:

Okay not being ironic or shitposting here for a second, do you have a single fact to back that up?

Honest question if you have evidence of Rand Paul being racist I want to see it in order to enrich my decision making

Is against the Civil Rights Act of 1964

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

Under the vegetable posted:

Like I said, If I voted for the next potential candidate who I most agree with, Jill Stein, it would accomplish the same thing as voting Republican, so I might as well be honest about the endgame. I still vote as left as possible in all local elections, which is kind of what really matters. I can only hope all of you also vote in local elections and midterms if you actually care as much about the future of the country as you let on.

Then why the gently caress vote for the Republican? I used to think the same way, that voting left in the local elections is what matters so it doesn't matter who you pick upticket, so I voted Green at the top. But the only time I'd even think of doing that again is if there's no chance a Democrat will win (i.e. this last gubernatorial race in Ohio). Unless you're a single-issue voter like Enigma who appears only to care about foreign policy (and thus you actually care about the rest of your fellow Americans), then giving the contest to the GOP, even indirectly, is just the worst thing you can do. Accelerationism is already in effect on some places if you think about it, and it en't looking like things are getting better.

Edit: all that said, I'm honestly not even sure we'd be better off with Sanders in the Oval Office, wouldn't he be more effective if he remained a Senator?

root beer fucked around with this message at 00:53 on May 4, 2015

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

steinrokkan posted:

But as a woman she will bbring a new level of sophistication and compassion to the White house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_x04Gn3-2g

This is the kind of politician I want to vote for. She's smart, she's funny, strong, & cool.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Is against the Civil Rights Act of 1964

thats a big claim, any source?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Segmentation Fault posted:

Okay not being ironic or shitposting here for a second, do you have a single fact to back that up?

Honest question if you have evidence of Rand Paul being racist I want to see it in order to enrich my decision making

He hates the Civil Rights Act. There is no reason to be against it other than racism. He's also extremely condescending to black people all the time,

Fluo
May 25, 2007

steinrokkan posted:

But as a woman she will bbring a new level of sophistication and compassion to the White house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_x04Gn3-2g

Didn't she vote for the Iraq war?

Bernie Sanders didn't.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

To be fair, the Iraq War seemed like a good idea at the time. It was a tough call, and there was no way of knowing it would turn out the way it did.

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp
Kill your bourgeoisie parents vote Bern.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

TEAYCHES posted:

To be fair, the Iraq War seemed like a good idea at the time. It was a tough call, and there was no way of knowing it would turn out the way it did.

I don't think crack induced posting is allowed on Something Awful.

It had the largest protest event in human history.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Faced with an opportunity to vote for somebody who represents their professed ideals, d&d turns into a bunch of conservative pundits emphasizing the reasonability of one's vote.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Nintendo Kid posted:

He hates the Civil Rights Act. There is no reason to be against it other than racism. He's also extremely condescending to black people all the time,

Well he does do the usual libertarian dance that he just reaaaaally cares about businesses having freedom to do and say what they want and totally wouldn't patronize a Woolworths with a "no darkies sign" in the window honest you guys.

So yeah essentially what you said.

TEAYCHES posted:

To be fair, the Iraq War seemed like a good idea at the time. It was a tough call, and there was no way of knowing it would turn out the way it did.

Wars: totally something that we just gotta try on without knowing if the loving reasons being advocated for starting them is actually true at all.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Fluo posted:

I don't think crack induced posting is allowed on Something Awful.

It had the largest protest event in human history.

A lot of smart people and thought leaders, even progressives like Thomas Friedman and John Kerry backed the war. In retrospect, we now know they were led to those conclusions by false claims made by the Bush administration. With the information Clinton had at the time, supporting the war is understandable, even if I disagree with it.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

TEAYCHES posted:

A lot of smart people and thought leaders, even progressives like Thomas Friedman and John Kerry backed the war. In retrospect, we now know they were led to those conclusions by false claims made by the Bush administration. With the information Clinton had at the time, supporting the war is understandable, even if I disagree with it.

They didn't support it because it was reasonable, they supported it because failing to do risked getting labelled a coward and a traitor by the blood-gargling degenerates running the GOP propaganda mill.

And Thomas loving Friedman is a progressive now? I'm beginning to think the crack hypothesis is worryingly likely.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

TEAYCHES posted:

progressives like Thomas Friedman

:eyepop: :dogbutton:

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

steinrokkan posted:

Faced with an opportunity to vote for somebody who represents their professed ideals, d&d turns into a bunch of conservative pundits emphasizing the reasonability of one's vote.

Everyone ELSE is voting for the candidate the TV news station of their preference tells them to vote for, I'd better do the same thing!!

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

I thought the Iraq war was a good Idea in 2003, in my defense I was 14.

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

Thomas Friedman is very progressive. Why else would he be included in the gangtag of the notorious commie radical chat thread?

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
But John Stewart said Hillary is unstoppable and she'll win! John Stewart's always right!

UV_Catastrophe
Dec 29, 2008

Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are,

"It might have been."
Pillbug
I like Bernie and plan to vote for him in the primary before Hillary annihilates him.


That said, total republican control at the federal level scares the poo poo out of me, so I'll pull the lever for Clinton when the time comes. :shrug:


The important part is that as many progressives are voting as possible, really.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

TEAYCHES posted:

A lot of smart people and thought leaders, even progressives like Thomas Friedman and John Kerry backed the war. In retrospect, we now know they were led to those conclusions by false claims made by the Bush administration. With the information Clinton had at the time, supporting the war is understandable, even if I disagree with it.

More Democrats voted against it than for it. The people who voted for it were playing politics for their personal careers and not for the greater good.

THE BOMBINATRIX
Jul 26, 2002

by Lowtax

UV_Catastrophe posted:

The important part is that as many progressives are voting as possible, really.

Even if they vote Green?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Under the vegetable posted:

But John Stewart said Hillary is unstoppable and she'll win! John Stewart's always right!

I thought Stewart promised to retire, why is he still poisoning the well.

Malmesbury Monster
Nov 5, 2011

TEAYCHES posted:

A lot of smart people and thought leaders, even <b>progressives like Thomas Friedman</b> and John Kerry backed the war. In retrospect, we now know they were led to those conclusions by false claims made by the Bush administration. With the information Clinton had at the time, supporting the war is understandable, even if I disagree with it.

I've got to know, is Friedman a member of the "smart people" or "thought leaders" group in this example?

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
Honestly who are we but base wallowers in hubristic irreverence if we don't just do what the TV says?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

UV_Catastrophe posted:


The important part is that as many progressives are voting as possible, really.

Even when they vote for a regressive candidate!

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Malmesbury Monster
Nov 5, 2011

Under the vegetable posted:

Honestly who are we but base wallowers in hubristic irreverence if we don't just do what the TV says?

Those sheeple.

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