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Violet_Sky posted:So Jim Sterling reviews a homophobic Steam Greenlight game. If this were an attempt at shock humour or satire then its years two late. There were dozens of crude flash games just like this floating around in the early teens. And if this is straight (heh) faced then its still been beaten to the punch, and its rather tame compared to some homopobic stuff already shoved onto the web.
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# ? May 4, 2015 20:44 |
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Violet_Sky posted:So Jim Sterling reviews a homophobic Steam Greenlight game. You know I'm not even offended by the game. I mean it's terrible in every way but it's sort of like Hatred where it's so crass and moronic I can't feel anything. What does offend me though is how the loving gently caress this ended up on Steam in the first place.
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# ? May 4, 2015 22:44 |
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Violet_Sky posted:So Jim Sterling reviews a homophobic Steam Greenlight game. Yeah, uh.... :| I'm not really sure what to say about it. It's just incredibly moronic (and shouldn't be on Steam.) It comes across as, say, a 13 year old boy in the early 2000s who hasn't actually ever met an LGBT person, and just thinks the whole concept of them existing is gross, and therefore funny. Which..come on, people. What a waste of pixels. I mean if this thing had any chance of mainstream success I might be worried for knock-on effects on actual LGBT people, but it's such a lame game and so out of its time that it's just going to fall into obscurity immediately.
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# ? May 4, 2015 22:55 |
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Quoting the developer himself: Fukken Putz posted:...The reason behind this particular game is because of how tired I am of people being overly sensitive and how easily offended people are by every little thing, especially with LGBT issues. I have worked in the game industry since 2007, so I know that's how the game industry pretty much is. I didn't make this game to attack LGBT people personally, but I made this game just to piss off those people that are way too sensitive, which includes straight people. These people that think if you are even remotely homophobic, you are "hateful" and a "bigot", and do everything they can to destroy you in every vicious way possible.. So I decided to go down a path that most developers are afraid to go down: to piss these people off by making the most overly offensive game possible to these idiots to prove a point.
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# ? May 4, 2015 23:35 |
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It hits the point where it's so offensive that I can't even find anything wrong with it aside from general eyeroll worthiness. It's like Postal, or, as mentioned, Hatred. When something is that actively awful, it kind of goes past "offensive" into "okay, whatever, guy" territory. It feels like comparing a real suicide threat with a toddler who says they're SO TOTALLY GOING TO HOLD THEIR BREATH UNTIL THEY DIE IF YOU DON'T GIVE THEM CANDY.
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# ? May 4, 2015 23:45 |
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quakster posted:Mostly good, the guy's a bonafide jackass, though.
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# ? May 4, 2015 23:45 |
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Did a video on a 2009 indie fantasy film called Ink. More a string of thoughts than a typical review, the film falls on that line of "much, much better than most films of its budget, but still kind of crap."
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# ? May 4, 2015 23:50 |
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Jsor posted:It hits the point where it's so offensive that I can't even find anything wrong with it aside from general eyeroll worthiness. It's like Postal, or, as mentioned, Hatred. When something is that actively awful, it kind of goes past "offensive" into "okay, whatever, guy" territory. It feels like comparing a real suicide threat with a toddler who says they're SO TOTALLY GOING TO HOLD THEIR BREATH UNTIL THEY DIE IF YOU DON'T GIVE THEM CANDY. Yeah, that's what I took from it. Also, as I said, this guy doesn't really have the power or influence to have much of an impact on real life. I love his "explanation" though, because it's exactly the wrong way to respond to accusations that you have caused offence. And yes, I do know that people can be too overly sensitive, but considering how it really wasn't that long ago that open and obnoxious bigotry against LGBT people was condoned, encouraged or thought to be funny by almost everyone...eh, why am I bothering to give this more thought than the game developer did.
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# ? May 4, 2015 23:50 |
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Violet_Sky posted:So Jim Sterling reviews a homophobic Steam Greenlight game. It's less about the game and more about the piss poor content management Steam Greenlight has. He also doesn't have much to say on that, either, because... seriously look at the poo poo they're letting get released.
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# ? May 5, 2015 00:01 |
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SatansBestBuddy posted:It's less about the game and more about the piss poor content management Steam Greenlight has. He also doesn't have much to say on that, either, because... seriously look at the poo poo they're letting get released. Part of me somehow hopes this gets enough votes and ends up on Steam. I wonder if then Valve would actually do something about policing content.
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# ? May 5, 2015 00:06 |
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Tracula posted:Part of me somehow hopes this gets enough votes and ends up on Steam. I wonder if then Valve would actually do something about policing content. Valve already pulled it.
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# ? May 5, 2015 00:26 |
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Zedd posted:Please elaborate, because I don't know him outside of these videos (Which are good and about a good show) and even in those he gave me plenty of hints towards being a weirdass already.
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# ? May 5, 2015 00:30 |
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Puppy Time posted:There is a reason that TV Tropes grew primarily out of Whedon fans. ahaha jesus gently caress. that's a pretty big black mark on whedon IMO
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# ? May 5, 2015 01:39 |
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TV Tropes was literally originally a fansite dedicated to documenting recurring things in Buffy.
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# ? May 5, 2015 01:42 |
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If there's one consolation a long while ago the site changed it's atrocious design to a facebook ripoff and is run by two new guys. So Captain Ahab is retired. I really hope he doesn't die realizing what he has done and fostered, I wouldn't want that on anyone. EDIT: I really miss the old tvtropes mock threads. They were just so much fun, learning how to write stories and poetry and so much more.
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# ? May 5, 2015 01:59 |
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The first few threads were good and needed. The next dozen, not so much.
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# ? May 5, 2015 02:13 |
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Just go listen to the Fplus if you want to hear some TV Tropes mocking without the insane amounts of
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# ? May 5, 2015 02:21 |
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Tracula posted:Just go listen to the Fplus if you want to hear some TV Tropes mocking without the insane amounts of Pretty much. Also check out that Dozerfleet episode to get the most out of the only bright spot in the last TvTropes thread.
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# ? May 5, 2015 02:28 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow5mku-j7zs Jontron is going to do most every Star Wars game. I can't wait!
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# ? May 5, 2015 02:39 |
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SatansBestBuddy posted:It's less about the game and more about the piss poor content management Steam Greenlight has. He also doesn't have much to say on that, either, because... seriously look at the poo poo they're letting get released. Edit: Just watched the trailer he posted. Nevermind, gently caress Steam Greenlight Edit: This one gave me chills, becuase I think it was made mainly to be jacked off too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcSmDVlJDXQ BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 03:02 on May 5, 2015 |
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Annointed posted:If there's one consolation a long while ago the site changed it's atrocious design to a facebook ripoff and is run by two new guys. So Captain Ahab is retired. Anyone have the link to Anime is the Ties that Bind Us? That is pretty much all you ever need to know about TvTropes. It's amazing.
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:05 |
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I find that the f plus can get a bit old, especially when it's literally mocking people who are probably only about 14 and don't know any better yet. TVTropes is silly, but it's hardly the worst of the internet. Sometimes an obsessive dedication to categorising popular culture can be very useful - I often use the site when I need to find examples of, say, particular LGBT tropes, as it tends to be the best place for digging up very specific examples, that aren't necessarily the most obvious or well known ones. (I suppose I could also use IMDB keywords, but they usually don't tell you the exact specifics of the scene in which the keyword is featured.) That said, I made a conscious decision to avoid using TVtropes words in my work for a number of reasons.
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:28 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Anyone have the link to Anime is the Ties that Bind Us? That is pretty much all you ever need to know about TvTropes. It's amazing. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gdmgkl3w5ed6255/AAAAETxWWsrOsDSS3-RfBS4Ra?dl=0 Got all of the things from the mock threads.
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:34 |
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TVTropes biggest sin is that it's created a whole lot of people who no longer will look into the deeper meanings and ideas behind technical choices, plot elements and themes in a work and instead will go "Well that's obviously a Draco in a Leather Coat who is a Complete Monster dealing with the Moral Event Horizon and...". Essentially turning film, books and games into a checklist of tropes they recognize. It just seems boring to me.
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:52 |
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quote:So I decided to go down a path that most developers are afraid to go down: to piss these people off by making the most overly offensive game possible to these idiots to prove a point. I liked it better when the 13 year old boy attitude was because they thought they were funny, rather than being self-important.
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:52 |
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OldTennisCourt posted:TVTropes biggest sin is that it's created a whole lot of people who no longer will look into the deeper meanings and ideas behind technical choices, plot elements and themes in a work and instead will go "Well that's obviously a Draco in a Leather Coat who is a Complete Monster dealing with the Moral Event Horizon and...". Essentially turning film, books and games into a checklist of tropes they recognize. It just seems boring to me. The name for this is autism, and yeah it is boring to normal people
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# ? May 5, 2015 03:59 |
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OldTennisCourt posted:TVTropes biggest sin is that it's created a whole lot of people who no longer will look into the deeper meanings and ideas behind technical choices, plot elements and themes in a work and instead will go "Well that's obviously a Draco in a Leather Coat who is a Complete Monster dealing with the Moral Event Horizon and...". Essentially turning film, books and games into a checklist of tropes they recognize. It just seems boring to me. It's a terrible autist STEM version of the person who won't shut up after taking high school literary analysis. Thankfully the latter usually grow out of it.
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# ? May 5, 2015 04:06 |
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Arbite posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow5mku-j7zs
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# ? May 5, 2015 04:48 |
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Baka-nin posted:A nihilist actually, the group (People's Will) went on to help for the Socialist Revolutionary party. Plus technically he had already emancipated the serfs, the process of dividing up land took a while, and even after the freed serfs remained tied to the landed estates economically. Its a bit of a myth that they killed the Tsar that was going to give them what they wanted all along. He did give them what they wanted,t hough. He blew up.
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# ? May 5, 2015 06:12 |
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BigRed0427 posted:Edit: Just watched the trailer he posted. Nevermind, gently caress Steam Greenlight You realize that once you pay 100bux you can post anything you want to Steam Greenlight, it doesn't even need to be a proper game yet, and the only way for stuff to get pulled is by people complaining (i.e. what just happened to the shitgame). You might as well say "gently caress YouTube" for allowing Sargon of Akkad to continue posting videos.
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# ? May 5, 2015 06:13 |
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Arbite posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow5mku-j7zs I'm eager to see his thoughts on KOTOR 2
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# ? May 5, 2015 06:58 |
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Leal posted:I'm eager to see his thoughts on KOTOR 2 I hate to be a pretentious jackass but I doubt he'll get it.
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# ? May 5, 2015 07:04 |
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icantfindaname posted:The name for this is autism, and yeah it is boring to normal people Something Awful user icantfindaname has put his full weight as a trained professional behind this mental health diagnosis.
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# ? May 5, 2015 12:02 |
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OldTennisCourt posted:TVTropes biggest sin is that it's created a whole lot of people who no longer will look into the deeper meanings and ideas behind technical choices, plot elements and themes in a work and instead will go "Well that's obviously a Draco in a Leather Coat who is a Complete Monster dealing with the Moral Event Horizon and...". Essentially turning film, books and games into a checklist of tropes they recognize. It just seems boring to me. It's not like those people would have ever said anything interesting anyway.
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# ? May 5, 2015 12:08 |
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Jack Gladney posted:It's not like those people would have ever said anything interesting anyway. yeah but they might have stayed quiet and let the grown-ups talk in peace, but instead they won't shut up about their Tropes
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# ? May 5, 2015 12:12 |
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Jsor posted:TV Tropes was literally originally a fansite dedicated to documenting recurring things in Buffy. Then Wikipedia got around to purging their anime fancruft, all the anime fans went to TV Tropes instead, and the rest is history.
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# ? May 5, 2015 12:42 |
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TvTropes sort of became less insufferable for me when I gathered that folk tended to recommend shittier outputs in spite of it.
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# ? May 5, 2015 12:46 |
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DoctorWhat posted:yeah but they might have stayed quiet and let the grown-ups talk in peace, but instead they won't shut up about their Tropes Come on man, all the grown-ups ever talk about is the size of their 401ks and why those drat kids won't stay off their lawn.
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# ? May 5, 2015 15:22 |
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achillesforever6 posted:I hope he does the Star Wars game that was basically a reskinned Age of Empires 2 ...which was a fantastic game. The cheat codes were hilarious, too.
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# ? May 5, 2015 16:09 |
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I have never heard anyonetalk about Star Wars: Supremacy (or 'Rebellion' for you weird foreign types) I freaking love that game, and I'm constantly wondering if I never hear people talk about it because it's either that unknown, and I'm totes being a hipster or because it's actually a bad game and I never noticed. fake edit: Just found it listed as #9 on a 'Worst Ever Star Wars games' list. I guess I know my answer now.
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