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Is Bibi still hosed? I'm really looking forward to figuratively licking his tears now!
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Grouchio posted:Is Bibi still hosed? I'm really looking forward to figuratively licking his tears now! Dang son few posts back, he got his narrow coalition
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May 7, 2015 01:57
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Grouchio posted:Is Bibi still hosed? I'm really looking forward to figuratively licking his tears now! He got his narrow coalition, but he had to give up a lot of concessions to the Jewish Home Party, and has the narrowest possible margin for error with his coalition. As it is currently constituted, this coalition will probably collapse within a year. edit: everyone should google Ayelet Shaked to learn more about Israel's new justice minister. She's gonna make things interesting in Israel in the next few months. 
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May 7, 2015 02:12
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As a US citizen it's weird as hell to hear Israelis complain about how awful it is to have more than two or three political parties.
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May 7, 2015 02:21
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ANIME AKBAR posted:As a US citizen it's weird as hell to hear Israelis complain about how awful it is to have more than two or three political parties. I'm sure we'd complain too if the only viable American coalition consisted of Republicans, Wall Street Democrats, Blue Dogs, the Tea Party, and Christian Conservatives all in their own parties while Liberal Democrats and Progressives (again with their own parties) are left out in the cold. Oh wait.
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May 7, 2015 03:05
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ComradeCosmobot posted:I'm sure we'd complain too if the only viable American coalition consisted of Republicans, Wall Street Democrats, Blue Dogs, the Tea Party, and Christian Conservatives all in their own parties while Liberal Democrats and Progressives (again with their own parties) are left out in the cold. I'd rather have a representative system like Israel's, but let's not forget, for example, who was the last third party Presidential candidate to get electoral votes? Nope, it wasn't Perot—it was George Wallace. If we had a parliament overnight, we'd probably see some kind of grand coalition to maintain a cordon sanitaire against the socialists and the white supremacists (just like Bibi would have preferred probably).
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May 7, 2015 06:10
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New Division posted:edit: everyone should google Ayelet Shaked to learn more about Israel's new justice minister. She's gonna make things interesting in Israel in the next few months. She's the "kill the snakes" gal.
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May 7, 2015 10:38
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She doesn't get the power to pick new judges though, according to Bibi - that and other Justice Minister powers are supposedly being removed from the position this time. What does a Justice Minister even do other than that?
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May 7, 2015 14:33
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Kahlon's economic program is just as coherent as Jimmy McMillon or whatever his name is. Click through from Google News to read The rent is too drat high!
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May 7, 2015 15:19
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Main Paineframe posted:She doesn't get the power to pick new judges though, according to Bibi - that and other Justice Minister powers are supposedly being removed from the position this time. What does a Justice Minister even do other than that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Friedmann Xander77 fucked around with this message at 19:22 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 15:59
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South African ex-United Nations Human rights official says that Israel's apartheid is 'infinitely worse' than the south African experience:- http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2015/5/6/ex_un_official_john_dugard_israel
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May 8, 2015 17:21
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As bad as Botha was, he never actually bombed Soweto.
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May 8, 2015 18:58
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I mean, i'm not saying he's wrong, but he lived through Apartheid as a white South African.quote:"I’m a South African who lived through apartheid," Dugard said. "I have no hesitation in saying that Israel’s crimes are infinitely worse than those committed by the apartheid regime of South Africa."
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May 8, 2015 23:33
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A stunning example of Zionist hypocrisy and entitlement. Cry discrimination while forcing indigenous people to live like prisoners. Israel has become a decadent tribute to the West's hubris.
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May 9, 2015 16:32
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Axis Sally posted:A stunning example of Zionist hypocrisy and entitlement. Cry discrimination while forcing indigenous people to live like prisoners. Israel has become a decadent tribute to the West's hubris. Nobody is "forcing" individuals to live in Palestine. If they wanted a better life, they should have developed the appropriate institutions to provide it. Instead, they developed Hamas and joined ISIL.
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May 9, 2015 17:27
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My Imaginary GF posted:Nobody is "forcing" individuals to live in Palestine. If they wanted a better life, they should have developed the appropriate institutions to provide it. Instead, they developed Hamas and joined ISIL. nobody is forcing israel to be an apartheid state, i just seems to keep happening???
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May 9, 2015 17:51
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:nobody is forcing israel to be an apartheid state, i just seems to keep happening??? Maybe because the framework through which you understand foreign affairs is compromised? Israel is a democracy and America's greatest ally in the mideast.
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May 9, 2015 17:54
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My Imaginary GF posted:Maybe because the framework through which you understand foreign affairs is compromised? Israel is a democracy and America's greatest ally in the mideast. None of that is incompatible with what I said, you're slipping migf
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May 9, 2015 17:59
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:None of that is incompatible with what I said, you're slipping migf You want an apartheid nation, look at Palestine. How many Jews live in Ramallah? How many Arabs live in Jerusalem?
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May 9, 2015 18:01
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My Imaginary GF posted:You want an apartheid nation, look at Palestine. How many Jews live in Ramallah? How many Arabs live in Jerusalem?  Poor trollmanship, try again.
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May 9, 2015 18:10
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:
Answer the question. How many Jews have voting rights in Palestine? How many Arabs have voting rights in Israel? Or, a simpler question. Are more Jews in political office in Palestine, or are more Arabs in political office in Israel? My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 18:13 on May 9, 2015 |
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May 9, 2015 18:11
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My Imaginary GF posted:Answer the question. How many Jews have voting rights in Palestine? How many Arabs have voting rights in Israel? logical error detected, if palestine isn't its own state then the suppressed jewish votes in palestine are really just a subset of the israeli suppression of palestinian voting overall
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May 9, 2015 18:17
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:logical error detected, if palestine isn't its own state then the suppressed jewish votes in palestine are really just a subset of the israeli suppression of palestinian voting overall Here's another one for ya: Are there any active synagogues in Ramallah? Are there any active mosques in Jerusalem?
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May 9, 2015 18:27
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My Imaginary GF posted:Here's another one for ya: Are there any active synagogues in Ramallah? Are there any active mosques in Jerusalem? lol in 1980, sweden had far fewer black people than south africa south africa was still the apartheid state
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May 9, 2015 18:29
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V. Illych L. posted:lol In 1980, Sweden hadn't ethnically cleansed its black population 30 years previously.
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May 9, 2015 18:31
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I really love when small little racist brains go into active meltdowns like this.
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May 9, 2015 18:33
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Al-Saqr posted:I really love when small little racist brains go into active meltdowns like this. I love when individuals living under the system which produced the 9/11 hijackers criticize democracy in the mideast.
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May 9, 2015 18:35
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My Imaginary GF posted:I love when individuals living under the system which produced the 9/11 hijackers criticize democracy in the mideast. Israel is a democracy. Furthermore, other bad things happen in the world. In conclusion, nothing to see here.
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May 9, 2015 18:37
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My Imaginary GF posted:I love when individuals living under the system which produced the 9/11 hijackers criticize democracy in the mideast. Yeah Israel is pretty f'ed up I agree
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May 9, 2015 18:56
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My Imaginary GF posted:I love when individuals living under the system which produced the 9/11 hijackers criticize democracy in the mideast. Yet you seem to be just fine with an American satellite state which engages in ethnic cleansing? Textbook neoliberalism.
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May 9, 2015 19:52
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Thank you, MIGF, for taking it on yourself to continually stir the pot with purposefully stupid statements so that people stay angry about I/P and don't let it fall to the background when long gaps of news occur
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May 9, 2015 20:36
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My Imaginary GF posted:Answer the question. How many Jews have voting rights in Palestine? How many Arabs have voting rights in Israel? Your trolling is getting stale. Perhaps you should wait until the next time Israel attacks Palestine before posting here again. That way you make up some new excuses.
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May 9, 2015 21:09
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My Imaginary GF posted:Answer the question. How many Jews have voting rights in Palestine? How many Arabs have voting rights in Israel? Palestine is not an independent country, but is under military occupation by Tzahal. The Jews who live in Palestine are settlers, who have the right to vote for the elections of the occupant power, whereas the Arabs do not. Arabs who live in Israel do have the right to vote; but not those who live in Palestine. That means that in the total territory under the total and complete control of the Israeli army and government, 100% of the Jews have the right to vote while only 40% of the Arabs have the right to vote.
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May 9, 2015 22:21
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Cat Mattress posted:under the total and complete control of the Israeli army and government If this were true there wouldn't be any rocket attacks.
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May 9, 2015 22:25
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Baloogan posted:If this were true there wouldn't be any rocket attacks. Does the existence of crime mean that our government doesn't control the cities, or just that they don't want to spend the resources?
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May 9, 2015 22:35
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Baloogan posted:If this were true there wouldn't be any rocket attacks. Yeah, because we all know that "government in control of country" implies "crime does not exist anymore".
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May 9, 2015 22:36
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Oh yeah massed rocket attacks are "crime". For sure. Keep thinking that.
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May 9, 2015 22:38
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computer parts posted:Does the existence of crime mean that our government doesn't control the cities, or just that they don't want to spend the resources? Call me the next time massed rocket attacks are launched out of concentrated poverty communities in America towards more prosperous areas, and see what sort of response occurs.
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May 9, 2015 22:46
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My Imaginary GF posted:Call me the next time massed rocket attacks are launched out of concentrated poverty communities in America towards more prosperous areas, and see what sort of response occurs. Put tall walls around these areas of concentrated poverty, with the US Marines controlling the few remaining access points; randomly bomb and bulldoze some of the buildings just for the lulz, and deny the inhabitants the right to vote. Pretty sure rocket attacks wouldn't take long to follow.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Call me the next time massed rocket attacks are launched out of concentrated poverty communities in America towards more prosperous areas, and see what sort of response occurs. It would probably be one that seeks to root out and arrest the actual perpetrators of the attacks, and not one which bulldoses entire neighborhoods and bombs houses and then also builds enclaves of the rich neighborhood in other poor neighborhoods as retribution.
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