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OB_Juan posted:Laffo, this has gotta be it. I'm not convinced but... that would be a pretty good plan, actually. Jiaying is super entrenched, having ruled for decades, maybe centuries. Even as a useful prophet, Raina's not gonna be able to dethrone her and take over just through ingratiation. She'll be a valued pawn at best, with no real power of her own. If Raina wants to take over, gathering power on her own won't take her far enough, she has to actively attack Jiaying and oust her. Makes sense.
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Plus they've had Raina lying with the truth a few other times as well.
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I think Jiaying being justified would work if she had not framed Gonzales for attempted assassination, also killing him when he was coming to her in good faith.
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May 8, 2015 04:44
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Looks like no spinoff: http://deadline.com/2015/05/marvel-agents-of-shield-spinoff-dead-abc-1201422761/ Still just glorified rumors at this point but seems likely. May have been a case of Agent Carter or the spinoff and they went with Carter. I'm okay with that Carter is way more original and they'll might keep Bobbi and Hunter on the main show this way.
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the-jam posted:Looks like no spinoff: http://deadline.com/2015/05/marvel-agents-of-shield-spinoff-dead-abc-1201422761/ Still just glorified rumors at this point but seems likely. That's like the vaguest article ever though.
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That's kind of a shame. Bobbi and Hunter headlining their own show would have been cool. Plus, now I'm worried that if the events of the spinoff were important and set up by next week's finale, we'll either get some setup that goes nowhere, or they'll have to inject some of the spinoff into AoS and we'll get an overstuffed show. Although that could result in faster pacing which might be good.
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Honestly I'd rather have Bobbi and Hunter stay with the main team. The spinoff felt a bit like they were stretching things a bit too thin.
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Something's wrong with the two posters for this episode--I can actually tell who the characters are. Re: Raina deliberately making a dumb power play that would fail, I dunno. I don't think she's seen anything else she hasn't told us about. Why try to gain power in The Afterlife AFTER Shield presumably blows it to smithereens in a violent conflict? There might not be any organized group of inhumans left after this war for her to be in charge of, especially not at that location. I think she suggested herself for the meeting because she really thought there was a chance she'd get it. Then she could leverage a successful liason with Shield into more power. She still doesn't know a lot of stuff about Inhumans or their society, I don't think she'd deliberately let Shield blow up the Afterlife if she could prevent it. But she's just so power-hungry she can't help but suggest herself for an important position when the chance arose. I think Raina's future sight might be a Cassandra type deal. She can see the future, but never change it.
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May 8, 2015 06:22
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Why would they even spin off those two? Who cares about them? Fitz and anybody would be better but it would be criminal to take him off this show.
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So that is happening.. http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/07/agent-carter-season-2 And Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was renewed too. http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/07/once-castle-shield-goldbergs-among-abc-renewals
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Why would they even spin off those two? Who cares about them? Fitz and anybody would be better but it would be criminal to take him off this show. Bobbi and Lance are awesome and I was excited for their spinoff show. I'm fine with them staying on this show too. EricFate posted:So that is happening.. Bit late on that one buddy.
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Hey guys I heard there was some renewalls on this franchise!
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BSam posted:Hey guys I heard there was some renewalls on this franchise! Did AoS get a season 2? 
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No word on the spinoff though? Hoping for Hydra Bob.
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I'm ok with no spinoff because Hunter adds such a fun dynamic to the show and I'd hate for him to leave
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Yeah, this is the best of both worlds, Aos S3 and AC S2 yaaay  . I'm also getting more Castle, which I'm grateful for.I hope they schedule things just like they did this year, with Agent Carter in the mid season gap.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I guess Jiaying really is super raged out at SHIELD if she would waste a precious crystal just to kill Gonzales. greatn posted:Maybe Gonzales is an inhuman and he got the power of Sandman. He can just crumble into dust and back. He practically had that power already anyway. ... and it'd also be pretty funny if the guy who really hated enhanced persons got turned into an enhanced person himself. I'm holding out a verrrrrrrrrrry slim chance that Gonzales isn't as dead as everyone assumes he is.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:That did feel a tad plot device-y .... He hasn't crumbled to dust yet like every other person who gets misted...so it is possibly the process is reversible or something. But I doubt it.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:That did feel a tad plot device-y ... The way she talked about them growing their own crystals I assumed they have a decent supply. Looking forward to loads of inhumans getting misted in the finale.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:That did feel a tad plot device-y .... CGI EJO as a shambling cinder man who still needs the cane because irony. My favorite comic book tv character right now (besides Cal) is a psychic gorilla so I could go for that.
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jivjov posted:He hasn't crumbled to dust yet like every other person who gets misted...so it is possibly the process is reversible or something. It wasn't the mist that killed trip, it was the exploding crystal embedding in his skin. In this instance it was the bits of diviner metal impurity in the crystal. Also, if they do reverse it, he's gonna have a hell of a time with that hand.
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BarbarousBertha posted:CGI EJO as a shambling cinder man who still needs the cane because irony. My favorite comic book tv character right now (besides Cal) is a psychic gorilla so I could go for that. He did lose a hand. Jam the cane in that stump.
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SpartanIV posted:EJO, after recovering from the crystals effects, sees the flaw in Shield and defects to hydra, where he replaces his missing hand with a scythe and takes on the moniker Grim Reaper He and Ulysses Klaw join a loss of limbs support group and decide to team up.
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https://twitter.com/edwardjolmos/status/595816404651266048 He ain't coming back.
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Until him and Xena return as members of the Legion of the Unliving!
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I'd rather have them bring back Bakshi, tbh.
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Aphrodite posted:He did lose a hand. Jam the axe in that stump. FTFY
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XboxPants posted:I'm not convinced but... that would be a pretty good plan, actually. Jiaying is super entrenched, having ruled for decades, maybe centuries. Even as a useful prophet, Raina's not gonna be able to dethrone her and take over just through ingratiation. She'll be a valued pawn at best, with no real power of her own. She can see the future, but we don't know she can CHANGE the future from what her visions have shown. She's sorta like Dr. Manhattan, a puppet who can see the strings. She can warn people that Jiaying + Gonzalez = Hellfire, but if she's already seen it, can she avert it?
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it turns out clairvoyance is a pretty lovely power if you can't actually influence the future with it.
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Arrrthritis posted:it turns out clairvoyance is a pretty lovely power if you can't actually influence the future with it. Muad'Dad coulda told her that.
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I'm still a little upset by that episode though because I don't want Jiaying to be bad. You know it can't end well for her. Maybe because I love Dichen Lachman.
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mikeraskol posted:I'm still a little upset by that episode though because I don't want Jiaying to be bad. You know it can't end well for her. What are they gonna do, kill her?
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Martout posted:What are they gonna do, kill her? They can lock her up forever in a cell and play a Justin Bieber album on a loop. There are worst things than death.
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Martout posted:What are they gonna do, kill her? Stick her in a crate and drop her in the ocean
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bobkatt013 posted:Stick her in a crate and drop her in the ocean I understood that reference.
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Martout posted:What are they gonna do, kill her? Hand her over to Star Labs.
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Martout posted:What are they gonna do, kill her? Possibly. I'm imagining a situation where she dies due to that water rock Kree thing they have in the ship. In fact, I would put money on it.
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THAT'S NOT HER FATE!
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Martout posted:What are they gonna do, kill her? It'd be pretty hilarious if Hydra cut her into pieces and took all her organs not caring if she lived or died, she gets better, and then Shield uses a non-lethal takedown and traps her in prison for multiple human lifespans. There's a parallel to Whitehall that way too, so my money's on her in super prison by the end of this. There's lots of ways they can go in this finale though, I fully expect it to top S1's finale even without a Fury cameo.
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