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vyst posted:Here's the thing. Space Violence, is not useful. It's fun, but not useful. It hasn't been useful since SUAS left. Useful is being able to assist with strategic objectives, or harass enemies from participating against us. You provide zero value to either of those objectives, because you stay in Syndicate all the time, so as a result you're not useful at all. The directorate however let's you exist for now because you do provide fun for people during peacetime, which is useful during peacetime, but during wartime and strategic op time you are the furthest thing from useful you can be. Couldn't have put it better myself. The plus side is that sans SUAS, we're no longer making GBS threads up the kb with carrier losses every day (unless you count me, but I don't count). The plus side is that SV is a great little respite from people burned out on strategic stuff, so thanks for letting this little group exist!
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various cheeses posted:I'd like to do holesquad stuff, but I don't want to leave Goonswarm. Leave an alt in goonswarm
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tirinal posted:Thinking of coming back after having not played for ~4 years. Is there some sort of API-based tool that will let me browse everything about my character (assets, skills, etc.) before I reactivate? quote:Hi, this is GM Makoto.
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May 8, 2015 20:30
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causticBeet posted:Ok sorry sir I will make sure I am at the ready next time we have an uncontested pos shoot in delve or whatever. Maybe if we're lucky some ishtars will land on grid and then promptly gently caress off. You dont have to go on them or really do anything you dont want to do, but blatantly ignoring the going ons of the greater alliance is kinda silly 
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May 8, 2015 20:34
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ChickenWing posted:Um that's garnt, he's in holesquad Holesquad is the same thing, except I'd argue they aren't even GoonFleet since they are their own entire subculture.
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May 8, 2015 20:34
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vyst posted:Here's the thing. Space Violence, is not useful. It's fun, but not useful. It hasn't been useful since SUAS left. Useful is being able to assist with strategic objectives, or harass enemies from participating against us. You provide zero value to either of those objectives, because you stay in Syndicate all the time, so as a result you're not useful at all. The directorate however let's you exist for now because you do provide fun for people during peacetime, which is useful during peacetime, but during wartime and strategic op time you are the furthest thing from useful you can be. Vyst you do realize blwarf and the sky team gives us tasks all the time like clear out fountain core or deploy to help allies right? We used to go to tribute/venal whenever asked to hit towers or do leg work when people were trying to gently caress with our stuff during alliance deployments. The whole sv is useless and does there own thing meme hasnt applied in atleast 2 years. We have even yet to turn down a single "strat" assignment or call to deploy to a warzone ever other than mostly ironic poo poo posting. Zasze fucked around with this message at 20:39 on May 8, 2015 |
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May 8, 2015 20:36
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Zasze posted:We have even yet to turn down a single "strat" assignment or call to deploy to a warzone ever other than mostly ironic poo poo posting. Shut up koshka, we're done posting on the forums.
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May 8, 2015 20:39
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vyst posted:Holesquad is the same thing, except I'd argue they aren't even GoonFleet since they are their own entire subculture.
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May 8, 2015 20:40
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vyst posted:Here's the thing. Space Violence, is not useful. It's fun, but not useful. It hasn't been useful since SUAS left. Useful is being able to assist with strategic objectives, or harass enemies from participating against us. You provide zero value to either of those objectives, because you stay in Syndicate all the time, so as a result you're not useful at all. The directorate however let's you exist for now because you do provide fun for people during peacetime, which is useful during peacetime, but during wartime and strategic op time you are the furthest thing from useful you can be. Most of SV were on deployment both to Provi then to Fountain; some peeled off to Synd during the move to Sahkt but it is only now that they are starting to roam Syndicate again.
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May 8, 2015 20:42
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Zasze posted:Vyst you do realize blwarf and the sky team gives us tasks all the time like clear out fountain core or deploy to help allies right? We used to go to tribute/venal whenever asked to hit towers or do leg work when people were trying to gently caress with our stuff during alliance deployments. If the war was in Cobalt Edge, would you have gone? Easy to say "sure we'll help" when the war is right next door to you. But you are right you did help when Blawrf asked so I will give you that credit. vyst fucked around with this message at 20:46 on May 8, 2015 |
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May 8, 2015 20:44
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vyst posted:If the war was in Cobalt Edge, would you have gone? SV as a whole takes a break when war is going on. (At least there's a thing in the MOTD  ). Most people do a good job of participating, but there's those few faithful that hold down FD- for the future victorious return to the motherland. #vfkBy2016
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I miss top goon. I want to log on at any given time and be like "hey where are we camping?" and then fly to the camp, camp it, and then fly back home full of loot.
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vyst posted:Here's the thing. Space Violence, is not useful. It's fun, but not useful. It hasn't been useful since SUAS left. Useful is being able to assist with strategic objectives, or harass enemies from participating against us. You provide zero value to either of those objectives, because you stay in Syndicate all the time, so as a result you're not useful at all. The directorate however let's you exist for now because you do provide fun for people during peacetime, which is useful during peacetime, but during wartime and strategic op time you are the furthest thing from useful you can be. Admittedly I dont have access to the ~smokey back rooms~ where ~important things~ are discussed, but it seems like "the squad that literally only cares about blowing up spaceships" would probably be more than happy to blow up strategically important spaceships, hth Also, since we're gonna  about who is and isnt useful in space, when was the last time you actually undocked, vyst
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May 8, 2015 20:49
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SV goes wherever skyteam tell us to go, we just happen to have a home in somewhere other than dek.
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Ataraxia posted:words Use hours for plex if you want but I'm pretty sure your data is always available subbed or not.
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I guess for me, on a personal level, I feel like a group that makes it a point to be "the cool high school kids out in the parking lot smoking cigarettes in leather jackets" rubs me the wrong way. You're either with us, or you're not. I feel like SV, and subsequently HoleSquad have always been this "supplemental" group to GoonFleet rather than something complimentary to it. I have nothing against the players. Y'all are cool with me as far as that goes. I do draw an issue with their concept and implementation. HoleSquad kind of gets a pass because CCP's role system is retarded in that regard though.
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May 8, 2015 20:50
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grumplestiltzkin posted:Also, since we're gonna I log in every day to do my space work. That's my contribution. If you don't find it useful, you can take it up with the mittani.
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vyst posted:I guess for me, on a personal level, I feel like a group that makes it a point to be "the cool high school kids out in the parking lot smoking cigarettes in leather jackets" rubs me the wrong way. You're either with us, or you're not. I feel like SV, and subsequently HoleSquad have always been this "supplemental" group to GoonFleet rather than something complimentary to it. We want you in SV. We have some weed and a leather jacket with your name on it. Quit denying us 
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vyst posted:I log in every day to do my space work. That's my contribution. If you don't find it useful, you can take it up with the mittani. I help you do that spacejob  (I also havent logged onto that character in a while, sorry )Also this: mpaarating posted:We want you in SV. We have some weed and a leather jacket with your name on it. Quit denying us
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vyst posted:I guess for me, on a personal level, I feel like a group that makes it a point to be "the cool high school kids out in the parking lot smoking cigarettes in leather jackets" rubs me the wrong way. You're either with us, or you're not. I feel like SV, and subsequently HoleSquad have always been this "supplemental" group to GoonFleet rather than something complimentary to it. Holesquad has been in its current iteration for what, 8 months now? And we still can't even get fcon or bastion to set us blue which makes it pretty tough to participate in anything. We're still getting killed by blues that we aren't shooting at. We have holes to various nullsec all the time and the only people who have ever asked us to come participate in things have been SV/groon and those times have been hilarious and successful. We're still GSF, we'd all be happy to come shoot men and be "complimentary" to mainfleet, but for one thing we need to be set blue to everyone and for another thing you need to ask so we know what you want. And getting reimbursed for dying at mainfleet poo poo wouldnt hurt either but since we don't really use the same doctrines that's kind of whatever
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various cheeses posted:I miss top goon. Laudable, but also the reason topgoon is in its current state, because that's what -everyone- in topgoon wants (including the leadership sometimes )
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ChickenWing posted:Laudable, but also the reason topgoon is in its current state, because that's what -everyone- in topgoon wants (including the leadership sometimes What is topgoon's current state?
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mpaarating posted:What is topgoon's current state? 
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ChickenWing posted:Laudable, but also the reason topgoon is in its current state, because that's what -everyone- in topgoon wants (including the leadership sometimes I saw the posts about going to Delve, but then nothing ever happened as far as I could tell, so I ended up playing GTA V for a few weeks instead. I don't even know where to hang out to drum up enthusiasm for a small fleet tbh. Like I read this thread and think "hey it would be cool to play EVE again". Then I log on and stare at my +5s pod in Dodixie ready to clone jump and... I just don't know anymore...
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vyst posted:I guess for me, on a personal level, I feel like a group that makes it a point to be "the cool high school kids out in the parking lot smoking cigarettes in leather jackets" rubs me the wrong way. You're either with us, or you're not. I feel like SV, and subsequently HoleSquad have always been this "supplemental" group to GoonFleet rather than something complimentary to it. As for flying out to colbalt edge yes totally id go in a heartbeat if there was a reason to be there. I mean thats fair I guess but we have never said that we are elite or different, most people bounce back between dek and syndicate. We are not the cool kids we just like living closer to the content we deployed with the rest of the alliance every time to curse and just did our own fleets when nothing was going on. Hell we have open recruitment and drown newbies in ships/skill books/wherever mentors leaves off. I dont think we do more than other groups or anything like that just trying to have that smaller scale option open to people.  I guess I just dont see how we aren't "with you" hell ive been in CD on and off as grad school allowed for 3 years  Fake edit: Do you even lift/log in is a dumb argument grumps 
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vyst posted:I guess for me, on a personal level, I feel like a group that makes it a point to be "the cool high school kids out in the parking lot smoking cigarettes in leather jackets" rubs me the wrong way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSCzDykng4g
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vyst posted:I guess for me, on a personal level, I feel like a group that makes it a point to be "the cool high school kids out in the parking lot smoking cigarettes in leather jackets" rubs me the wrong way. *flicks cigarette at u*
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I thought SV were like Vietnam vets. Or is that blackops? I can't keep track of this poo poo anymore.
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Zasze posted:Fake edit: Do you even lift/log in is a dumb argument grumps I'll take that to mean that you do not, in fact, lift Neither do I 
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CainFortea posted:I thought SV were like Vietnam vets. Or is that blackops? I can't keep track of this poo poo anymore. Syndicate and the surrounding areas were basically The poo poo as of a few years ago and it turned us all into Vietnam vets. I don't know what it's like now since I haven't been subbed in a while. Blackops is  .
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ChickenWing posted:Laudable, but also the reason topgoon is in its current state, because that's what -everyone- in topgoon wants (including the leadership sometimes The issue with topgoon is the current USTZ leadership consists of Kincaid (Never logs in to do stuff with topgoon), Chickenwing (Never logs in to do stuff with topgoon), Guuldan (Probably dead), and that guy who thought pipeclogging meant hotdropping on gates next to enemy staging systems (I.e. he dumb). This leaves you with Soth as the only active leader, he's in EU TZ, and he thinks the Cynabal is on par with or better than the Orthrus/Gila (So basically another idiot). Just nix the squad already or merge it with SV and be done with it, provided you get along with Koshka (He's easy to get along with) and don't let Johnny Rah in, it should be a smashing success.
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vyst posted:Holesquad is the same thing, except I'd argue they aren't even GoonFleet since they are their own entire subculture. Holesquad is underutilized. I know you guys like having wormholes to move, and if you asked you could probably get a half dozen guys with scanning skills near maxed out flying blinged covops to find viable chains. Scouts that actually understand wormholes and know how to check for activity and how to set up lookouts along the chain while caps are going through. Holesquad also tends to enjoy roaming with the rest of the fleet as long as nobody is going to shoot at us. Hell, if I knew everyone would have me as blue I wouldn't mind flying a Gila down to help Reavers, even if there's no reimbursement.
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I keep getting the itch to play a spaceship game and just remembered I played EVE for all of a month. Is Groon still a chill place to get high and talk about butts and occasionally shoot things with little to no actual power or responsibility?
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Rhymenoserous posted:don't let Johnny Rah in, it should be a smashing success. Want to emphasize this. It's the secret to any SIG's success. Theta sperglords were easier on the ears than that guy.
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It's amazing that Johnny Rah hasn't been hellpurged from the entire coalition. If you can name any awful eve-player personality flaw, he has it, and he's not even basically useful.
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Viva Miriya posted:BoB and everyone that followed them were loving cancer. I'd rather see the rise of a hundred FCONs before I ever see those cocksuckers running the game again. I remember that back in 2005 or 2006, line members had to pay 100m per month (probably ~400m today) + 10% rating tax for "alliances purposes" like building pos or capital ships or watever stuff the 1% elite wanted to do. As if their T2 BPOs (at the time ISK printing licenses) wern't enough. No SRP or anything of course.
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Krogort posted:I remember that back in 2005 or 2006, line members had to pay 100m per month (probably ~400m today) + 10% rating tax for "alliances purposes" like building pos or capital ships or watever stuff the 1% elite wanted to do. So it's like a renter alliance now, but your pilots should go in fleets too. Slavery.
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wisdomHNOX posted:I keep getting the itch to play a spaceship game and just remembered I played EVE for all of a month. Is Groon still a chill place to get high and talk about butts and occasionally shoot things with little to no actual power or responsibility? This is in fact a chillingly accurate portrayal of groon. We're probably starting Alliance Tournament practices soon as well if you dig that.
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