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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
He's catching on, I'm telling ya!

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY
just loving vote for the one you like in the primary and then vote for the platform that would benefit you personally you overanalytical nerds

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Armageddon, if true.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


comes along bort posted:

He's catching on, I'm telling ya!

hey like a month ago that was 3-5% lol. at this rate sanders will be president by july

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

hey like a month ago that was 3-5% lol. at this rate sanders will be president by july

To the moon!

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Joementum posted:

Armageddon, if true.



In a way it's disappointing to see the Antichrist mantle being passed on from the Kenyan Usurper-in-Chief. Like the end of an era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3eazHcbeQ0

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



that reminds me, has gingrich given up on his presidential aspirations

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

Could you imagine four to eight years of Walker as the face of our nation? Jesus.

usbombshell
Oct 29, 2004

Boom!
Rand Paul would like your opinion on some t-shirt designs

https://randpaul.com/t-shirt-voting

:stare:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Zelder posted:

Could you imagine four to eight years of Walker as the face of our nation? Jesus.

That's my nightmare.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

usbombshell posted:

Rand Paul would like your opinion on some t-shirt designs

https://randpaul.com/t-shirt-voting

:stare:

I look forward to Hitler Did Nothing Wrong the t-shirt.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Oh please, please, please let him create this shirt. :pray:



edit: I can confirm that weedlord.bonerhitler@randpaul.com voted for that shirt.

Joementum fucked around with this message at 22:16 on May 8, 2015

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "
lol that glasses one has to be a subtle dig at Perry

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "
you can tell they're not Rand's because they don't have the gold grandma chain he wears them with in the Senate

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

mooyashi posted:

lol that glasses one has to be a subtle dig at Perry

Doesn't seem all that subtle to me, honestly.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Joementum posted:

Oh please, please, please let him create this shirt. :pray:



edit: I can confirm that weedlord.bonerhitler@randpaul.com voted for that shirt.

People might actually buy that one. Vote for the screen printed tie one.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

wasn't yougov the group that bungled their own 'exit' poll pretty hard last night in the UK election?

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
So does Biden have any campaign organization at all yet? Or is he just going to be the first 16-year VP?

MH Knights
Aug 4, 2007

Zelder posted:

Could you imagine four to eight years of Walker as the face of our nation? Jesus.

If more crap like this comes to light we will not have to worry about that. For those who don't know WEDC is basically a giant piggy bank for Walker's big donors as evidenced by the millions of dollars in loans they forgot to keep track of.

Local TV station posted:

MADISON, Wis. -

Gov. Scott Walker has abruptly scrapped plans to merge his flagship job creation agency with an agency that hands out low-interest housing loans in the wake of a scathing audit. Walker's state budget calls for merging the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation with the Wisconsin Housing and Economic Development Agency. Republican legislators have introduced a stand-alone bill that would accomplish the merger at Walker's request as well.

But state auditors released an audit Friday that found the troubled WEDC is still struggling to compile job creation data and hasn't complied with state law.

Walker issued a statement Friday that he has asked legislators to remove the merger language from the budget and to give up on the bill.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

The X-man cometh posted:

So does Biden have any campaign organization at all yet? Or is he just going to be the first 16-year VP?

Biden is now a feature of the White House, you get him for free if you win the white house.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
My attitude with Bernie's run is to advocate with the enthusiasm as if he could win, rather than showing your hand from the start. The better results he makes in the primary, the more likely the Democratic Party will see there's a powerful, galvanized constituency worth listening to. If/when he loses, it could be possible that the Dem calculus will decide that in order to retain his supporters for the general, the party will have to adjust its policy or make concessions to help keep them interested in showing up for the general election (and hope that it will get those supporters to vote down ticket Dem than just plugging in Hillary and protest voting for other seats). Really it's about creating the illusion of a threat than anything; I doubt Bernie supporters are going to just let a Republican win.

It's possible to acknowledge that he's a long-shot candidate without deriding his supporters as naïve rubes who are going to spoil the general election, since this is a primary and he's not running as a 3rd party candidate that can split the vote when it counts.

If you're going to fight, fight with the intent to win. But if you lose, do what you can with what you got.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Raskolnikov38 posted:

wasn't yougov the group that bungled their own 'exit' poll pretty hard last night in the UK election?

that was every pollster in the united kingdom

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

usbombshell posted:

Rand Paul would like your opinion on some t-shirt designs

https://randpaul.com/t-shirt-voting

:stare:

The NSA one is actually pretty drat funny.

Flappy Bert
Dec 11, 2011

I have seen the light, and it is a string


Sheng-ji Yang posted:

that was every pollster in the united kingdom

Why is it that the UK pollsters seem to be so off compared to the American ones?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

that was every pollster in the united kingdom

It was but I think it was yougov that released a days old poll as their very own version of the 'exit poll'

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Internet Webguy posted:

Given past primaries the real threat is the GOP candidate that doesn't shoot himself in the food repeatedly when he is the media flavor of the week.

I imagine any candidate that open carries into a restaurant and proceeds to blast his platter will gain significantly in the polls.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Joementum posted:

Oh please, please, please let him create this shirt. :pray:



edit: I can confirm that weedlord.bonerhitler@randpaul.com voted for that shirt.

Liberty Bro? Eh, it's still not as bad as people in tech unironically calling themselves Brogrammers.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Zelder posted:

Could you imagine four to eight years of Walker as the face of our nation? Jesus.

Get prepared. It'll happen if Bill's pedo-plane thing takes off.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Raskolnikov38 posted:

wasn't yougov the group that bungled their own 'exit' poll pretty hard last night in the UK election?

English people are liars in general.

Americans are honest. Glad we surpassed them in freedom and treasure.

Prosopagnosiac
May 19, 2007

One of us! One of us! Aqua Buddha! Aqua Buddha! One of us!

usbombshell posted:

Rand Paul would like your opinion on some t-shirt designs

https://randpaul.com/t-shirt-voting

:stare:

I voted for the one that has the pipboy-esque cartoon of Rand punching a robot with the White House for a head.

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Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Prosopagnosiac posted:

I voted for the one that has the pipboy-esque cartoon of Rand punching a robot with the White House for a head.

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gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love
Where do I give Sanders the money's?

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

IXIX posted:

Why is it that the UK pollsters seem to be so off compared to the American ones?

I don't know if this is the real cause, but American political scientists have spent decades studying polling techniques and voter behavior to the point where we are really, really good at predicting individual voting behavior as well as how to conduct good polls. We've had decades of elections to figure out tricks to get around non-response, selection bias, and so on. Quantitative methods are also huge (maybe dominant by now) in American political science, so there's more large-n studies of behavior rather than theory or philosophy. This helps us understand how to predict broad voting behavior, even with new challenges each election.

In the UK, political science has not really focused on voting behavior all that much, and American political science is far more advanced statistically than basically any other country. This is changing rapidly though, so I would expect the UK political scientists just need to learn from a few elections what went wrong and how UK voters tend to misrepresent their views, or how polls aren't accurately canvassing their voters. Maybe they didn't properly screen for likely voters? They also probably underestimated the incumbent advantage and only asked general party preference and not constituency level-preferences, which is how people actually vote.

Glenn Zimmerman
Apr 9, 2009

Concerned Citizen posted:

Let's not forget that Hillary raised $200 million for the 2008 primary. The finance sector was a relatively small overall portion of that. And she is a New York-based Senator, so no surprise that the top NY donors were backing her. While I agree that money has a corrupting influence in politics, the idea that she is beholden to these folks because of what is less than 1% of her total fundraising is absurd.

Finance, Insurance, and Real Estate (i.e. the casino destroyed the economy) was 20% counting PAC and individual contributions in her 2008 primary bid:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00000019


FAKE EDIT: Seriously, quote just ignores all those space characters? goddamnit do I really have to take a screenshot

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The US polls in 2014 were spectacularly lovely. Remember when Lundergan Grimes was in the MoE on election day? Remember how Warner had a double-digit lead on Gillespie in Virginia?

Presidential elections are relatively easy to poll because there are only two candidates and the voters have way more information than they need to make a decision. But the polling industry has been in bad shape for the last several years because response rates have dropped below 10%.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Glenn Zimmerman posted:

Finance, Insurance, and Real Estate (i.e. the casino destroyed the economy) was 20% counting PAC and individual contributions in her 2008 primary bid:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00000019


FAKE EDIT: Seriously, quote just ignores all those space characters? goddamnit do I really have to take a screenshot

"Finance, Insurance, and Real Estate" also includes bank tellers, insurance salespeople, and real estate brokers. It doesn't actually tel you that much about the viewpoint being espoused.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Voyager I posted:

I wasn't around for the Paulites. Were they this bad?

They were worse, because they were doing it all for a racist, sexist, gay-hating idiot.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

gohmak posted:

Where do I give Sanders the money's?

https://berniesanders.com/

But you aren't actually going to donate poo poo, because if you were you'd be able to type Bernie Sanders into google.

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Skwirl posted:

https://berniesanders.com/

But you aren't actually going to donate poo poo, because if you were you'd be able to type Bernie Sanders into google.

He's probably confused because to donate to Bernie you have to do it through ActBlue which is a broad, generic PAC for democrats and it confused me at first as to who I was actually giving the money to.

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