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noirstronaut posted:i got a free zune from bing rewards and it was really awesome but then i sold it for an iphone 1
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Jonas Albrecht posted:People need to get over Sticker Stars. I know right. Sticker Star is my favorite Paper Mario game, but I can why people don't like it. But there no reason to treat it like the Sonic Boom of Paper Mario. edit: and now I remember the godawful Sonic RPG. Jarogue fucked around with this message at 04:18 on May 11, 2015 |
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Sticker Star was such a painfully boring game that I didn't even play past the second world
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:07 |
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Augus posted:Sticker Star was such a painfully boring game that I didn't even play past the second world Then you didn't fall in love with wiggler.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:13 |
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elf help book posted:Then you didn't fall in love with wiggler. That's the 3rd world. You just get to pick between them after beating the 1st.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:14 |
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I liked the part of Sticker Star where battles were completely pointless and the game was actually a really mediocre puzzle game.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:16 |
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Motto posted:I liked the part of Sticker Star where battles were completely pointless and the game was actually a really mediocre puzzle game. I liked the part where all the environments and characters were the exact same as New Super Mario Bros. Thanks Nintendo, I didn't need that entire reason I ever liked this series in the first place anyway.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:18 |
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Jarogue posted:I know right. Sticker Star is my favorite Paper Mario game No, you're not allowed to have that opinion.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:19 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:That's the 3rd world. You just get to pick between them after beating the 1st. Yes, I am saying that person did not play the 3rd world.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:20 |
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I just don't know how people go from "Sticker Star was mediocre" to "Miyamoto shouldn't be allowed to make games anymore". I mean, that poo poo is weird, right?
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:29 |
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Augus posted:I liked the part where all the environments and characters were the exact same as New Super Mario Bros. What the gently caress are you even talking about
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:30 |
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:What the gently caress are you even talking about The fact that Sticker Star's world themes are all completely bland and generic, and the characters are all pre-existing series staples. As opposed to previous games which introduced unique areas with new, memorable characters and enjoyable self-contained stories in every chapter. I mean for gently caress's sakes, look at Rogueport. That area on it's own has more personality than anything I've seen in Sticker Star combined, and it's the first place you go to in the game.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:35 |
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I just don't know how people go from "Sticker Star was mediocre" to "Miyamoto shouldn't be allowed to make games anymore". Obviously it's Miyamoto's fault that Sticker Star was bad, because his advice and guidance to the dev team was to not make it as wordy and plot heavy as Super Paper Mario, and not at all the fault of Intelligent Systems, the team that took that advice and made a bad game that happened to follow that advice in a way that was separated from what made the game bad.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:35 |
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elf help book posted:Then you didn't fall in love with wiggler. That was my favorite chapter. Had a noir sounding level music, the wiggler diary, the boom box that had a small remix to Star maze from Super Mario Land, Sniffit or Whiffitit, Kersti having that moment in the spider web, and the Boss of the world. Enigmansion and the boss' story in world 4 and the level with Petey Piranha was great too. Oxxidation posted:No, you're not allowed to have that opinion. My 3DS has it listed as my favorite game now.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:38 |
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I just don't know how people go from "Sticker Star was mediocre" to "Miyamoto shouldn't be allowed to make games anymore". I certainly don't think that, but at this point I think Miyamoto shouldn't be given power over projects he's not personally directing or producing. People like Koizumi are perfectly capable of handling series like Mario on their own now without having Miyamoto hover over their shoulder.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:39 |
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Also they based the "no plot" directives off of club Nintendo surveys apparently, so that service was only ever used for evil. I think that's also the reason Dream Team was 24/7 tutorials.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:39 |
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Motto posted:I certainly don't think that, but at this point I think Miyamoto shouldn't be given power over projects he's not personally directing or producing. People like Koizumi are perfectly capable of handling series like Mario on their own now. The problem is that Miyamoto is a great video game designer, but he also has a pretty distinct style he always goes for. Having him be influential in too many projects makes everything in the company start to become homogenized
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:41 |
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Ometeotl posted:Obviously it's Miyamoto's fault that Sticker Star was bad, because his advice and guidance to the dev team was to not make it as wordy and plot heavy as Super Paper Mario, and not at all the fault of Intelligent Systems, the team that took that advice and made a bad game that happened to follow that advice in a way that was separated from what made the game bad. As far as I can tell from interviews Miyamoto doesn't really give "Advice and guidance", he just 'upends the tea table' or whatever the phrase they use is and tells the team to remake the game a certain way
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:43 |
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The company was restructured to imbue Miyamoto's design ethos into everything they do, that ship may have already sailed. Pretty much all their internal development is under EAD now.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:43 |
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Miyamoto should be allowed to ruin their games if he drat well wants. next topic
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:43 |
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I just beat Sticker Star like a week ago. It wasn't amazing but it was totally alright. I think it's not what a Paper Mario fan would have been looking for and people being disappointed about that is totally reasonable, but what it is is okay too and whenever it's brought up everyone acts like it's some crime against humanity when it's not. Basically what I'm saying is the internet's a bunch of whiny overreactive babies
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:47 |
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Jarogue posted:Its stupid as hell and I love it At least the commercials are matching the "it came from the 90's" aesthetic of the actual game, I guess. Play It LoudTM!
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absolutely anything posted:Basically what I'm saying is the internet's a bunch of whiny overreactive babies ? ?! ?!?
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:50 |
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This Miyamoto hack sounds like a real piece of work. Time to get a real game designer in here instead of this amateur
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:54 |
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More like Miyamotaintreaped
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:54 |
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Miyamoto is real good at making games, but isn't so good at decisions regarding other people's games.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:57 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:The company was restructured to imbue Miyamoto's design ethos into everything they do, that ship may have already sailed. Pretty much all their internal development is under EAD now. Which I think is part of the problem as to why people have been drifting away from the company. They still have a decent-sized library of good games, but the variety on first-party titles is wavering quite a bit. More of the games are fitting the same "minimal plot, popping colors, lighthearted tone" mold. Series like Metroid and F-Zero may not have been as popular, but they helped to round out the game library to be all-around more inclusive, if you wanted a dark atmospheric space opera you could get that from Nintendo, if you wanted a frantic racer that was only for the truly dedicated players, you could get that too. Hell, Tropical Freeze was a fantastic and challenging platformer, but even that went for brighter colors and bouncier themes than its SNES brethren. Nintendo too busy trying to make games that anyone could play, rather than a repertoire of games that anyone could find something that appeals to them in.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:57 |
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raditts posted:At least the commercials are matching the "it came from the 90's" aesthetic of the actual game, I guess. Play It LoudTM! This is more fitting than you think, to promote Donkey Kong Country and "PLAY IT LOUD" they actually held events at colleges where you'd show up in a bathing suit and get splattered with paint. Then people would get scored on how colorful/covered in paint they got.
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# ? May 11, 2015 04:58 |
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I think Nintendo is still doing that, but now the less inclusive games are either given to other teams at Nintendo (Monolith, XenoX), or made through working with other companies like Platinum and Atlus.
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:00 |
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US dudes, Fry's has the 32GB Mario 3D World/Nintendo Land console bundle for $250: http://www.frys.com/product/8270146
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:05 |
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Augus posted:Nintendo too busy trying to make games that anyone could play, rather than a repertoire of games that anyone could find something that appeals to them in. That really doesn't mesh with sales numbers and franchise popularity at all, no.
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:17 |
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absolutely anything posted:I just beat Sticker Star like a week ago. It wasn't amazing but it was totally alright. I think it's not what a Paper Mario fan would have been looking for and people being disappointed about that is totally reasonable, but what it is is okay too and whenever it's brought up everyone acts like it's some crime against humanity when it's not. Basically what I'm saying is the internet's a bunch of whiny overreactive babies It always makes me think Paper Mario fans are angry crazy people.
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:21 |
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The thing to remember about F-Zero in particular is that it's not a franchise they ran into the ground or treated as a weird experimental playground like Starfox - they kept putting out fun, no-bullshit racing games that improved with every entry but fewer people bought each one, so it got to the point where they had to innovate or just move on, and I think they made the right call.
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:21 |
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Augus posted:Which I think is part of the problem as to why people have been drifting away from the company. They still have a decent-sized library of good games, but the variety on first-party titles is wavering quite a bit. More of the games are fitting the same "minimal plot, popping colors, lighthearted tone" mold. Series like Metroid and F-Zero may not have been as popular, but they helped to round out the game library to be all-around more inclusive, if you wanted a dark atmospheric space opera you could get that from Nintendo, if you wanted a frantic racer that was only for the truly dedicated players, you could get that too. They published Bayonetta 2 last year lol
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:24 |
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I've found that when people say "I want more variety," what they really are trying to say is "I am uncomfortable with brightly colored games, I want something violent so I don't feel like someone will make fun of me for playing a children's game." This is also why this argument pops up a lot online among more nerd-oriented websites where people get absurdly self-conscious about what they play and enjoy, whereas the average person doesn't actually have time to worry what xXxGokuWeed47xXx is going to say about Mario Kart 8, they just want to play it during their free time.
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:27 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:The thing to remember about F-Zero in particular is that it's not a franchise they ran into the ground or treated as a weird experimental playground like Starfox - they kept putting out fun, no-bullshit racing games that improved with every entry but fewer people bought each one, so it got to the point where they had to innovate or just move on, and I think they made the right call. Honestly, they just need to take Mario Kart, make a 250cc mode, and you're close enough to F-Zero with items to be good enough. They've already got the Blue Falcon in there, so it's not even that far off. They could just add Captain Falcon and maybe some of his buds and there you go. And I guarantee you this hypothetical Mario Kart 9 would sell better than all the previous F-Zero games combined. Names do that.
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:28 |
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I kinda want a new baseball game from Nintendo.
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# ? May 11, 2015 05:29 |
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Due to people wanting more story in their Paper Mario games, the new Paper Mario will be written by David Cage.
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We Already had a Paper Mario scene where Peach takes a shower and is spied on by a computer, what could David Cage bring to the table?
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