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hemophilia posted:"Most commonly used" is a big stretch. Maybe in 2012. I haven't heard anybody call it 'jewing' since I've come back. Maybe I've been lucky, but that term seems to be pretty naturally falling out of favor. I was worried there was a new problem and not the same thing that's been agitating people since I joined. JU-0WQ VII - JU-rusalem
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hemophilia posted:"Most commonly used" is a big stretch. Maybe in 2012. I haven't heard anybody call it 'jewing' since I've come back. Maybe I've been lucky, but that term seems to be pretty naturally falling out of favor. I was worried there was a new problem and not the same thing that's been agitating people since I joined. You've been fortunate. It remains embarrassingly prevalent. Also, do you know what the GSF financial cabal is named?
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Maneck posted:You've been fortunate. It remains embarrassingly prevalent. Also, do you know what the GSF financial cabal is named? I don't hear it very often during US prime. It's the EU prime where it's more common i've noticed. I still wouldn't call it common though.
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May 11, 2015 03:29
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Like, I acknowledge that it'd be hard to purge it from everyday usage. To discourage it would basically just require renaming any alliance/coalition groups or assets, and maybe telling the wiki people to edit it out when they see it. Ugh I already feel like a dirty crusader, but I'm really amazed that people are jumping in here to claim that this pattern doesn't exist. e. fixed my mixed construction CommonShore fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 11, 2015 |
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CommonShore posted:Like, I acknowledge that it'd be hard to purge it from everyday usage. To discourage it would basically just require renaming any alliance/coalition groups or assets, and maybe telling the wiki people to edit it out when they see it. Yes, how dare we answer your question with our personal observations. The loving gall.
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CainFortea posted:Yes, how dare we answer your question with our personal observations. Observations aren't worth poo poo when they come from someone who sucks at observing.
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May 11, 2015 03:32
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CommonShore posted:Observations aren't worth poo poo when they come from someone who sucks at observing. I guess we must all have our windmills. v0v.
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May 11, 2015 03:36
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CommonShore posted:Ugh I already feel like a dirty crusader, but I'm really amazed that people are jumping in here to deny that this pattern doesn't exist. Which side of the issue are you on, exactly?
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You're all being dumb. Yes, people still use "jewing" to refer to ratting occasionally in TYOOL 2015. It's a hard habit to break, myself included -- probably because it's not quite as blatantly offensive as "human being" or "friend of the family" or other catchphrases of choice that people are just now training themselves to not use. If you hear it, and it bothers you, speak up. Chances are, they'll go "oh yeah." It's not that hard.
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May 11, 2015 03:59
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ullerrm posted:You're all being dumb. Yeah I actually brought it up originally because I got called out on it tonight via an old ship's name. That's what got the gears going.
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May 11, 2015 04:05
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so you did it and you're salty you got called out on it, gotcha
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May 11, 2015 04:15
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I have heard several references to MTUs being called "Jew claws."
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Viva Miriya posted:One of the best parts for me was book 3 when all of his people get hit on the same day. The Distaff, operatives, all that. Then the reveal on who it is that set it all up is pretty nuts. Plus in Ravenor it is hinted that chaos blew up an entire planet trying to kill him. Eisenhorn is badass af
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:so you did it and you're salty you got called out on it, gotcha Naw, I'm not salty about being called on it. I was really honestly just asking. I got salty when people tried to claim that I was imagining things.
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darth cookie posted:I have heard several references to MTUs being called "Jew claws." That's the old name for tractor beams, so yeah.
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CommonShore posted:Naw, I'm not salty about being called on it. I was really honestly just asking. I got salty when people tried to claim that I was imagining things. Honestly I'm surprised no-one's insinuated that you're an Afro-Jewish gay man about it yet.
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May 11, 2015 04:37
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ChickenWing posted:im gay say it right. It's pronounced 
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From the sov dev blog; the t1 entosis has fairly trivial fitting (10pg1cpu) but adds 250,000kg mass while active and first 5 minute cycle does nothing but "warmup" I dont know enough about mass and propulsion to know the effects of this - this would effectively make an interceptor a dead still target yes? But at what hull size would the mass effect become trivial? Entosis BCs?
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Jon Von Anchovi posted:From the sov dev blog; the t1 entosis has fairly trivial fitting (10pg1cpu) but adds 250,000kg mass while active and first 5 minute cycle does nothing but "warmup" i think the mass addition is about enough to make the interceptor catchable with a non-gimmick fitting
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Not to mention the warp restrictions while the link is cycling.
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Glory of Arioch posted:i think the mass addition is about enough to make the interceptor catchable with a non-gimmick fitting nah the mass penalty with 1mn MWD activated is 500,000kg, while mass penalty for entosis link is just half of that...... I don't think it is enough to make trollceptor catchable
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CommonShore posted:Naw, I'm not salty about being called on it. I was really honestly just asking. I got salty when people tried to claim that I was imagining things. The only person i've seen who claims you are imagining things is you claiming that people are claiming you are imagining things. quote:n I'm not sure how fast you could be orbiting a thing within entosis range while MWDing with the module activated. I just orbited a thing in game in a travelfit ceptor with MWD on at 20km and my speed was only about 100m/s slower than full speed straight ahead. So even if you add half again the mass I think you're right.
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The bigger issue with trollceptors is that it's impossible to fit a T2 link on them, so they have to stay within 20km and use a T1 link. A single Cerberus -- or even a Garmur -- forces them off whatever they're attacking.
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ullerrm posted:The bigger issue with trollceptors is that it's impossible to fit a T2 link on them, so they have to stay within 20km and use a T1 link. A single Cerberus -- or even a Garmur -- forces them off whatever they're attacking. Also it's not impossible to make a T2 trollceptor [Crusader, trollceptor] Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Inertial Stabilizers II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Small Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell Entosis Link II /OFFLINE Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Small Ancillary Current Router II Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II (Needs a 5% power implant, warps in 2s with a plain all-5 FC, doesn't even need Sa Matra's mindlink trick. A couple of low grade Nomads work too.) edit wait I just realized this is really dumb because it can't target over 35 km. NEVERMIND! Klyith fucked around with this message at 06:39 on May 11, 2015 |
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theta squad: heritage not hate
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ullerrm posted:You're all being dumb. Can I ask if this thread sparked the whole discussion? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bravenewbies/comments/35gebm/how_racist_do_comms_have_to_get_before_they/ Mekchu fucked around with this message at 06:36 on May 11, 2015 |
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Zakrello posted:as a FCON I do recognize holesquid and will not shooting them first. seems other alliance member didn't receive that memo thru That's appreciated (it honestly is), but the instance I'm referring to is pre-sqwid. 
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Klyith posted:I'd figure just about anything would force a solo entosis 'ceptor to bug out. Having to stay within 20km makes it way too easy for someone to eventually get a scram on you, and if it's fit for agility and carrying the link it probably has miserable combat stats. It's pretty clear that T2 Entoceptors aren't meant to be a thing, so if a fit for one catches on Fozzie will just keep tacking on 50 grid to the fitting costs until they don't work anymore. T1 Ceptors obviously aren't a problem because they're 20km away just shoot at them.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Can I ask if this thread sparked the whole discussion? Speaking as someone with an alt in BNI: their comms are WAY nastier than ours. Which is impressive, really, when you consider how bad Imperium comms are. I don't know if it's the TEST influence, or something else entirely; they drop racial slurs like it's going out of style. (Hint: It's going out of style.) PS: I made another monthly thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZyuEgtvyCI
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Numismancer posted:That's a feature, not a bug~ The Index is a neat name. Peacetime reimbursement incentives for approved ratting ships, PvP-capable ratting Ishtar fittings, and a Home Defense Reimbursement Bonus for defending our space. But, unfortunately, until 2s align interceptors are killed for good there's nothing really to be done about stopping a dedicated roamer like Sa Matra from getting in. The point of contact is going to have to be where ever they decide to engage, which means every ratting ship needs to be capable of fighting off small groups of interceptors until help arrives. Something that is already done, to an extent. This means nothing, of course, because people will still rat in Ishtars designed for max ticks instead of survival no matter what we suggest. They'll just eat the loss and move on. Magic Rabbit Hat fucked around with this message at 06:46 on May 11, 2015 |
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Reimbursement incentives for non-retarded carrier fittings could maybe stave off that particular embarrassment. But then again that would mean approving of ratting carriers so  I don't think you'll convince people to fit proper tanks on afk Ishtars since ticks are really the only thing people care about, but maybe you can, good luck.
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ullerrm posted:Speaking as someone with an alt in BNI: their comms are WAY nastier than ours. Which is impressive, really, when you consider how bad Imperium comms are. I don't know if it's the TEST influence, or something else entirely; they drop racial slurs like it's going out of style. (Hint: It's going out of style.) Yeah, when I had an alt in there I got a couple chuckles at how their comms were and how they'd profess elsewhere that they weren't like the other groups and their fleet comms were super firendly to everyone etc. Also I lover your videos 
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Deklein Index Camp Keeper
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Zakrello posted:Deklein Index Camp Keeper No, no. We're the super serious Imperium now. Maybe we could call it something Roman inspired, like Testudo. Or we could contract CVA to do it after we've burnt their home to the ground 
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So is "jewing" (and all related "eve-terms") no longer accepted as "acceptable" or not, I'm interested in that development?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:So is "jewing" (and all related "eve-terms") no longer accepted as "acceptable" or not, I'm interested in that development? hmm, the german has taken an interest in the jews
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:hmm, the german has taken an interest in the jews luv u deadtear and all but I'm legit interested in this outcome /edit: Of all the dumb things this thread has "agreed" on circlejerking over, how the gently caress has slowcooking not come up a single time? 
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To get over my embarrassment about that dumb crusader trollceptor, I'll write about why indexes are going to be so important. It's not just the obvious of making your space harder to invade. In the comments thread of the latest sovblog, CCP mentioned that progress toward capture or reinforcement sticks around forever until reversed by the owner. It doesn't decay or regenerate at all. Entosis trolling is a real threat if you don't clean it up. So if a random gang comes through and puts 15 minutes of reinforcement on your crap just to be force a defense fleet, you need to spend the time to un-reinforce it. Otherwise you risk having sov zits in your space just because someone finishes a reinforcement in bits and pieces. But high indexes make the cleanup way easier, since owner progress always goes at full speed. Keeping that multiplier at 5 or 6 means you can reverse in a few minutes what the other guy spend half an hour doing. Demiurge4 posted:Reimbursement incentives for non-retarded carrier fittings could maybe stave off that particular embarrassment. But then again that would mean approving of ratting carriers so
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Klyith posted:To get over my embarrassment about that dumb crusader trollceptor, I'll write about why indexes are going to be so important. It's not just the obvious of making your space harder to invade. In the comments thread of the latest sovblog, CCP mentioned that progress toward capture or reinforcement sticks around forever until reversed by the owner. It doesn't decay or regenerate at all. Entosis trolling is a real threat if you don't clean it up. quote:Drone Control Unit in fleet hangar/fitted is instant rejection That sems to preclude ratting carriers. Also on the Entosis stuff that seems really similar to the spergy sov proposal I wrote but never got around to posting anywhere important due to various concerns and faults in my system. But it's very nice that using your space gives you good homefield advantages. I still think the system doesn't do enough to encourage small alliances to settle nullsec though because I'd consider seeing megablocs (including ours) dying entirely to be preferable, if it meant that every nullsec system was worth living in with a bit of setup time.
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