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Tormented posted:Is 15.6 to large if I'm traveling alot or should I go smaller like 14 or even 13? That's up to your tolerance but yes, for most people that is way too big/heavy for travel. Max 13 for me.
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My dad's looking for a cheap portable computer (not bigger than 13", preferably around 11"), running Windows (mainly for Web/Word/Excel/Skype). I'd like to keep it under $300. Bonus points if its available in-store at Best Buy. I'd get him a Chromebook but those don't do Word/Excel/Skype and 11" MBAs are probably out of his price-range. Suggestions?
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Serperoth posted:Sorry for quoting myself, but I tried looking for T430/440 and I can't make heads or tails of stuff. For one, I can't find any refurbished Lenovos with anything better than a Core2Duo. Lenovo's own Greek store is ridiculously expensive (and can't find any T430/440), half the stores don't have half the stuff, and the closest thing I'm finding is the G50-70. Since you're in Greece just look at the German store. If they have nothing the French store and so on.
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shodanjr_gr posted:My dad's looking for a cheap portable computer (not bigger than 13", preferably around 11"), running Windows (mainly for Web/Word/Excel/Skype). I'd like to keep it under $300. HP Stream 11 or Asus X205. Both are under $200 before tax.
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Boiled Water posted:Since you're in Greece just look at the German store. If they have nothing the French store and so on. All EU outlets I tried are running on the different storefront, and don't have any refurbished pieces at all, or even an option to select refurbished. I have contacted Lenovo Greece, to see if they can help out, and I understand WHY they would be so much cheaper in the US (sales tax, for starters), but it's almost ridiculous. I can get a good one for 600$, OR for 1100euro, that's almost double the price. If nothing comes of that, I think I'll be looking more into the Elitebook I posted about, which is looking pretty good for 400. I can live without a number pad I guess, and I saw some positive reviews about the 8440p series.
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Boiled Water posted:Since you're in Greece just look at the German store. If they have nothing the French store and so on. Don't forget: each country has their own keyboard. Don't get a QWERTZ or whatever
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The more I Think about it the more difficult it becomes. 600€ is not a lot I money for a laptop in Europe.
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Serperoth posted:I've never had a laptop, but I'll be spending a semester abroad starting September, so I will need one. I study Computer Science, and my needs are pretty much CompSci programs (Coding, possibly VM), and some light gaming. No Project Cars at Ultra Super High Razzle Dazzle, but, say, Final Fantasy XIV for example. A large hard drive is appreciated, but most stuff seems to have at least 750GBs so I don't think that particular bit is hard to find? The Z50-70 is 599€ but I know nothing about graphic cards. http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Ordinat...-1BDDFM35677592 edit: you might want to check their other options, they are generally pretty cheap. Spatule fucked around with this message at 13:27 on May 12, 2015 |
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Currently looking at the Lenovo Thinkpad E550 - any opinions? The only thing that worries me is that it doesn't have an SSD, and I think I may need one for the amount of data that I work with (+\- 3GB a week). The reviews seem to be pretty solid and I can get it for 590 euro, which strikes me as a good deal. Or am I better off with the Z50-70 mentioned above? Also, both seem to be 15.6" screens - what's the better option for 14"? This is generally what I'm looking for: quote:My old Acer, after 7ish years of hard work, is finally starting to poo poo the bed. Junior G-man fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 12, 2015 |
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Called Lenovo Greece, it can't be brought over, so I'll be looking at alternatives, and still looking for info on the Elitebook, which is looking like a very good option now that the 600$ Thinkpads are out of the picture.Spatule posted:The Z50-70 is 599€ but I know nothing about graphic cards. Thanks for that, I had no idea the store even existed, reading up on that now. 
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Junior G-man posted:Currently looking at the Lenovo Thinkpad E550 - any opinions? Just in general, E-series Thinkpads are not as well constructed/durable as the X/T/W series.
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Junior G-man posted:The only thing that worries me is that it doesn't have an SSD, and I think I may need one for the amount of data that I work with (+\- 3GB a week). You want the SSD for snappier startup and general use of any programs you're running and possibly of data you're churning through them. You don't want the SSD as a data grave if you're just downloading fifty thousand hours of porn per week (in fact, you want a cheap 2tb spinning HD for that).
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Quick trip report on upgrading the T450S: Got mine with the bare minimum RAM and HDD. Stuck a 500GB Samsung 850, an 8GB stick of RAM, and a 256GB m.2 drive to use as a boot disk. It was incredibly easy to do. The case came off easily (some -- but not all -- of the screws seemed to have washers attaching them to the case, and it was not obvious before removing the screws and finding some washers on the table), and all three components were right on top. In fact, the single hardest parts of the experience were (1) figuring out how to clone the old 500GB HDD to my 256GB m.2 (use Macrium Reflect Free; everything else I tried was an enormous pain in the neck), and (2) learning that the T450S's BIOS doesn't have a fixed boot order. It is possible that I got lucky and Macrium automatically changed the drive letter of my m.2 to C: rather than keeping that letter for the HDD. Now the only question is if I need to leave 45 GB of space free on the m.2 drive (can I get away with fewer).
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Serperoth posted:Called Lenovo Greece, it can't be brought over, so I'll be looking at alternatives, and still looking for info on the Elitebook, which is looking like a very good option now that the 600$ Thinkpads are out of the picture. While those Elitebooks are very tough they're also really bulky and that model is ancient - we still have a bunch in a cupboard at work but they must have been retired going on two years ago. Also that graphics card is truly worthless now - you'd be better off finding one with integrated graphics only.
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dissss posted:While those Elitebooks are very tough they're also really bulky and that model is ancient - we still have a bunch in a cupboard at work but they must have been retired going on two years ago. Huh, good to know that. Any opinion on this? It's a good price, and specs-wise the biggest issue I'm seeing is that the CPU is only 1,7GHz, which might be bad considering I might need VM stuff. Another option is this one, but, again, I have no idea about build quality, and how good Inspirons are.
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Grundulum posted:Got mine with the bare minimum RAM and HDD. Stuck a 500GB Samsung 850, an 8GB stick of RAM, and a 256GB m.2 drive to use as a boot disk. It was incredibly easy to do. The case came off easily (some -- but not all -- of the screws seemed to have washers attaching them to the case, and it was not obvious before removing the screws and finding some washers on the table), and all three components were right on top. Is it possible to replace both SODIMMs in the T450/550, or is one of them buried in the guts of the computer and requires a complete disassembly like in the bad old days? The T550 maintenance manual isn't super helpful on this point.
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ToxicFrog posted:Is it possible to replace both SODIMMs in the T450/550, or is one of them buried in the guts of the computer and requires a complete disassembly like in the bad old days? The T550 maintenance manual isn't super helpful on this point. My understanding about the T450 is that it has 4GB soldered directly on the motherboard, and a DIMM slot open to expand this 4GB by putting in a stick.
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Twerk from Home posted:My understanding about the T450 is that it has 4GB soldered directly on the motherboard, and a DIMM slot open to expand this 4GB by putting in a stick. T450S. The T450 isn't super extra thin so I think it has normal RAM slots (but no full HD screen option because gently caress you, that's coming as an option on the T470).
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Doesn't only the i7 have two slots? The T440 I had only had one slot
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blowfish posted:T450S. The T450 isn't super extra thin so I think it has normal RAM slots (but no full HD screen option because gently caress you, that's coming as an option on the T470). Ahaaha for gently caress's sake Lenovo, can you manage to not gently caress up at least one thing per generation? Jesus. And I was hoping to avoid the T550 due to the keyboard but nope. Yeah it does have two RAM slots with the i5, the config page offers 2x8GB modules for 16GB vs 12 for the 450S.
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Right, ordered the ThinkPad S5 Yoga. Can post pictures and impressions as soon as it arrives if someone is interested.
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I-H posted:Right, ordered the ThinkPad S5 Yoga. Can post pictures and impressions as soon as it arrives if someone is interested. I say go for it. I enjoy reading about other people's new toys. Lets me live vicariously through you.
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mobby_6kl posted:Ahaaha for gently caress's sake Lenovo, can you manage to not gently caress up at least one thing per generation? Jesus. And I was hoping to avoid the T550 due to the keyboard but nope. I've seen a lot of complaints about the T550 keyboard, but...what's wrong with it? It looks like it uses the standard Lenovo keys and everything. Do people just not like having a numpad? mobby_6kl posted:Ahaaha for gently caress's sake Lenovo, can you manage to not gently caress up at least one thing per generation? Jesus. And I was hoping to avoid the T550 due to the keyboard but nope. The config page for the T450s offers me 2x8GB as well. There's no 12GB option at all. Shame it's almost as expensive as the T550 and all the screen options are garbage. ToxicFrog fucked around with this message at 13:30 on May 13, 2015 |
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So I have spent a quite few hours looking at laptops for a new job and I need some help. I will be in the office half of the time and at home the other half. I work as a software developer. I want a desktop replacement laptop (probably a gaming laptop) that has good battery life and doesn't get too hot or loud. I am willing to pay a lot for it. My work is giving me $5000 to build my work environment.I plan to spend as much of that on a great computer as I can. So far the best I have seen is the new Alienware 15/17. They get 7 hours of battery life with a beefy i7 quad core and a gtx 980m. I was thinking of replacing the SSD with a better one since they ship them with a lovely one. However I really don't desire to have an alienware computer, but all the other respectable brands have 4 hours or less of battery life. The current macbook 15 pros are sporting 2 year old parts for top dollar still, but that seems to be the popular choice at the office.
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BobSaget posted:So I have spent a quite few hours looking at laptops for a new job and I need some help. I will be in the office half of the time and at home the other half. I work as a software developer. What about multiple desktops? Will you actually be working on the road? I'd much rather have a desktop at work and one at home. My current employer gave me a very powerful laptop and a desktop, but I still work at home on my personal desktop. I hate this 15.6" monstrosity and wish it was just a T450s or something. Edit: With $5k you can get 2 nice desktop workstations and a midrange T450s.
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BobSaget posted:So I have spent a quite few hours looking at laptops for a new job and I need some help. I will be in the office half of the time and at home the other half. I work as a software developer. You could blow all your money on a very high end Dell Precision laptop, and then at least it will have a real 3 year on-site warranty also. Once you start specc'ing extreme options, the cost gets ridiculous, but if I was looking for a work machine and had been given a huge chunk of cash to spend, that's where I'd head.
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Twerk from Home posted:What about multiple desktops? Will you actually be working on the road? I'd much rather have a desktop at work and one at home. My current employer gave me a very powerful laptop and a desktop, but I still work at home on my personal desktop. I hate this 15.6" monstrosity and wish it was just a T450s or something. I had this exact thought as well. I haven't explored it yet though. I was thinking I could build 2 nice desktop for $1200 each and then get an ultrabook or something. I heard the XPS 13 is godly. I was worried about software licences though. I should bring it up as an option though to them. I need to look into Visual Studio licensing costs because 3 copies of that could easily be a deal breaker. I don't think I will be working from the road for work. I might if I decide to vacation and not use vacation time. HalloKitty posted:You could blow all your money on a very high end Dell Precision laptop, and then at least it will have a real 3 year on-site warranty also. Once you start specc'ing extreme options, the cost gets ridiculous, but if I was looking for a work machine and had been given a huge chunk of cash to spend, that's where I'd head. I work from home 100% right now (this laptop will be for a new job) I use an m4800 for work now at my current job I like being able to work anywhere in the house seamlessly and also have a docking station and desk when I need it. The m4800 is overpriced as hell though and has lots of bugs, mostly involving the docking station. I had to exchange one already because the AMD graphics have all sorts of issues in windows 8. The workstation graphics are kind of garbage too and I only get 3-4 hour battery life. Overall I have not been very impressed. BobSaget fucked around with this message at 17:30 on May 13, 2015 |
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BobSaget posted:I had this exact thought as well. I haven't explored it yet though. I was thinking I could build 2 nice desktop for $1200 each and then get an ultrabook or something. I heard the XPS 13 is godly. I was worried about software licences though. I should bring it up as an option though to them. I need to look into Visual Studio licensing costs because 3 copies of that could easily be a deal breaker. I don't think I will be working from the road for work. I might if I decide to vacation and not use vacation time. VS licenses are per user, not per machine, I thought. Don't build a machine for work, buy a workstation with a 3 year onsite warranty.That M4800 is expensive because of the service, not because of the hardware.
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Twerk from Home posted:VS licenses are per user, not per machine, I thought. Don't build a machine for work, buy a workstation with a 3 year onsite warranty.That M4800 is expensive because of the service, not because of the hardware. I think you are correct about VS. The onsite support was expensive but the machine was still expensive without it. I specced it out myself. The M4800 uses quadro graphics which are poo poo. I had to work with a flight simulator for this job and the $2000+ machine struggled to keep 30 fps in a terrible looking game. Half the time when I undock my computer the wireless doesn't turn back on. Sometimes when I dock the computer the video stays black. The dock is the main reason to have the workstation and it is buggy as hell. Not to mention the dell software tries to update my drivers with the same version over and over. Plus I get pretty terrible battery life. Overall I have not been impressed which is why I have been looking at non workstation choices. BobSaget fucked around with this message at 17:51 on May 13, 2015 |
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That's because you're supposed to have a desktop if you need to run that. Alienware is not very good. You'll get the power you need but they are not high quality machines.
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Aphrodite posted:That's because you're supposed to have a desktop if you need to run that. Reading around it looks like the latest revisions are actually pretty legit, build quality and all.
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Aphrodite posted:That's because you're supposed to have a desktop if you need to run that. Not an alienware fanboy by any means, nor do I really want one. But they have some good battery life for the specs. And the new model has good reviews.
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ToxicFrog posted:I've seen a lot of complaints about the T550 keyboard, but...what's wrong with it? It looks like it uses the standard Lenovo keys and everything. Do people just not like having a numpad? Just the useless numpad that makes typing and mousing unnecessarily awkward. Here's what the T450s options look like for me: 
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mobby_6kl posted:Just the useless numpad that makes typing and mousing unnecessarily awkward. Same. "Memory Up to 12GB DDR3L 1600 MHz (1 DIMM)" Also it has a full HD screen. That person must be looking at the T450.
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CharlesM posted:Same. You're right, somehow I ended up with two T450 pages open. 
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I took the plunge on the 450s with the 1080p IPS screen and I am absolutely in love with it. You'd have to be a picky sonovabitch to not enjoy this laptop.
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A6-5200 vs Intel Core i3-4005U Or more specifically http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/toshiba-satellite-c50-b027-15-6-laptop-toc50b027 Vs http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/hp-pavilion-15-e001au-notebook-white-hep15e001 EDIT: Vs http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/acer-e5-571-51zl-15-6-laptop-ace557151z ?? gently caress looking for a new mid-range is hard. Anidav fucked around with this message at 07:08 on May 14, 2015 |
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If you care about performance or battery life, then you should get the i3. If you care about gaming, you should get a laptop with a dedicated graphics card like a GTX 960M. The lowest I would go for a gaming capable laptop is (newer) an A8, but at that point, you'd better off buying a i5 + dGPU setup. You might as well get the Acer, but quite frankly, a 500GB HDD and 1368x768 15.6" screen just isn't it. Can you only buy from Officeworks?
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Don't buy a loving AMD powered laptop I filtered for under $650 on that Officeworks website and all of those are trash, do you have any other options? Can you go refurb-Thinkpad on ebay? Hadlock fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 14, 2015 |
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