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I bet you that if Clinton wins someone somewhere will write a piece calling her a "liberal Margaret Thatcher" meaning is as a complement, even though its probably the nastiest thing that you can say about someone
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radical meme posted:It'll be hard for Right Wing Media to completely dismiss the ability of women to lead after slobbering all over the carriers of Margaret Thatcher and Jeanne Kirkpatrick for so long. They can forget anything they have previously ever said. Look at the PPACA, that's their loving legislation, but since a black democrat got it passed they hate it.
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May 16, 2015 19:08
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IceAgeComing posted:I bet you that if Clinton wins someone somewhere will write a piece calling her a "liberal Margaret Thatcher" meaning is as a complement, even though its probably the nastiest thing that you can say about someone I hope Hillary gets a badass nickname like Iron Lady.
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May 16, 2015 19:10
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's bizarre. Michelle Bachmann? The woman who was serving every other GOP candidate water at the table in the run up to 2012?
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May 16, 2015 19:28
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's bizarre. It chases away anyone on the fence about the GOP. There are a lot of women raised in patriarchal households and taught that they need to find a man and settle down, even in TYOOL 2015. Most of it is in small communities and areas of deep religious influence, the same kind of areas where leaving to go to college is seen as abandoning your community and forever marks you as an outsider.
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May 16, 2015 19:54
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Mister Macys posted:Michelle Bachmann? The woman who was serving every other GOP candidate water at the table in the run up to 2012? Yeah its going to affect female republican voters, not the leadership. Just a question of how many of them will decide to stay home on election day, or worse yet, vote for a woman for President...
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May 16, 2015 19:58
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VideoTapir posted:That's Church of Satan, specifically. It was Anton LaVey who said "I give people Ayn Rand with trappings." That explains the overwhelming number of teen boys.
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May 16, 2015 20:01
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Bored and found more of McInnes http://video.foxnews.com/v/4234439649001/gavin-mcinnes-a-message-to-emotional-women-voters/#sp=show-clips Here he is arguing against the 19th amendment. He's claiming that because women got the right to vote? We've gone into "Big Government". http://www.salon.com/2015/05/14/fox_news_should_maybe_be_concerned_about_gavin_mcinnes_mental_stability/
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May 16, 2015 20:11
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A lot of the GOP voters are so entrenched it doesn't matter though, especially after the insanity of the last decade. They drink all the flavor-aid, so people saying poo poo like women would be happier at home are just being respectful to stay-at-home mothers, while democrats talking about the "war on women" are just pandering. Hey Muslims wear burkas and liberals like Muslims, so who's really making a war on women? Also liberals say mean things about Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin, who are both women.
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May 16, 2015 20:58
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Mister Macys posted:Michelle Bachmann? The woman who was serving every other GOP candidate water at the table in the run up to 2012?  I don't remember that. God drat.Iirc, she said that she didn't want to be a tax attorney but moved in to that field because Marcus told her to.
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May 16, 2015 21:03
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Tender Bender posted:A lot of the GOP voters are so entrenched it doesn't matter though, especially after the insanity of the last decade. They drink all the flavor-aid, so people saying poo poo like women would be happier at home are just being respectful to stay-at-home mothers, while democrats talking about the "war on women" are just pandering. Hey Muslims wear burkas and liberals like Muslims, so who's really making a war on women? Also liberals say mean things about Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin, who are both women. I still think quite a few people who vote GOP are socially liberal when pressed upon it, but can never bring themselves to vote for Democrats because of them experiencing prosperity during the Reagan-Bush-Clinton-(part of)-The W. years. I think the fringe has pushed a lot of people out of that area though. You can see it happening when big businesses and corporations are starting to get away from donating money to straight up fundie candidates.
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May 16, 2015 21:25
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FuzzySkinner posted:Bored and found more of McInnes Gavin McInnes, he co-founded Vice, so I have a hard time believing that this is anything but trolling on a Ann Coulter level style.
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May 16, 2015 21:48
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He wrote a big article about how he hates trans and also is now pro-life and found god. He likes attention
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May 16, 2015 22:01
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N. Senada posted:He wrote a big article about how he hates trans and also is now pro-life and found god. He likes attention So the guy that founded a magazine so he could get the Canadian government to pay for his heroin habit pulled a Dennis Miller edit: After reading this articles I understand why Shane Smith forced him out, this is either trolling on a Andy Kaufman level or he is absolutely insane and needs to go back to doing drugs. RACHET fucked around with this message at 22:30 on May 16, 2015 |
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May 16, 2015 22:27
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RACHET posted:Gavin McInnes, he co-founded Vice, so I have a hard time believing that this is anything but trolling on a Ann Coulter level style. One of the founders of vice got kicked out after writing some transphobic articles iirc and is a randian ubermensch
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May 16, 2015 22:33
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BiggerBoat posted:Like a few years ago when there were crazy wildfires out west, it was supposedly because environmentalists have kept people from cutting down the trees. So, if there's no trees, then there can be no fires. That was one of the many many instances of running something that is true through the right-wing media sausage grinder. Part of the reason that wildfires can be so terrible is that a lot of forests haven't been properly managed - like doing periodic thinning where the smaller trees are removed so that the larger remaining trees can grow big enough to resist fire. Smaller trees act like kindling that can ignite the larger trees which can make the fires utterly devastating for both the forests and the surrounding communities. Of course, the reason the forests are unhealthy is because they were logged to poo poo and the new trees that come up after a clear cut are all small, thin and grouped close together. Light that on fire and it burns fast and hot and can get out of control very quickly. So yes, cutting some trees is part of the answer to mitigating wildfires, but only in a very specific way which anti-environmentalists will never bother to understand because gently caress hippies log everything. Its similar to their wildly mis-informed take on the issue of birds vs windfarms. There is a legit problem with windmills killing raptors but the answer is fix the windmills not burn more coal. They are more interested in trying to prove environmentalism wrong with pithy gotchas so that they can continue to ignore whats happening.
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May 16, 2015 22:48
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Doesn't coal kill more raptors than wind farms anyway?
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May 16, 2015 22:52
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Shbobdb posted:Doesn't coal kill more raptors than wind farms anyway? coal kills more everything than anything, except maybe fish from hydroelectric for obvious reasons
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May 16, 2015 22:53
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McInnes seems to be one of these people (like Coulter) who never matured beyond adolescence and have a deep-seated need to be thought of as "cool", but a warped understanding of what cool is. They think it's edgy to say offensive things because offending people is the most awesome, rock and roll thing a person can do. People who get offended are pathetic and weak, you see, therefore being offensive shows you are superior. Yet when cornered & publicly called out they usually retreat to "I'm being persecuted for having a sense of humor!" 
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May 16, 2015 22:57
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joeburz posted:coal kills more everything than anything, except maybe fish from hydroelectric for obvious reasons Sure, now that DDT is banned, habitat loss due to climate change brought about by burning fossil fuels is probably the number one killer of raptors. Oh yeah, remember when America banned DDT and that somehow resulted in the deaths of millions and millions of African children that conservatives totally care about?
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May 16, 2015 23:08
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IceAgeComing posted:I bet you that if Clinton wins someone somewhere will write a piece calling her a "liberal Margaret Thatcher" meaning is as a complement, even though its probably the nastiest thing that you can say about someone Oh, it'll happen, a big old crop of prejudices and arrogant ideas will go in a blender and those who hate her will attempt to co-opt her, in the way that Obama was at least useful in saying that racism in America must definitely be over. Personally, I'm waiting for the first pundit to argue that although Clinton is obviously a bitch oval office, her being president proves how equal opportunity is in America - because can you imagine a woman ever being a president in one of those sandy countries?
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May 16, 2015 23:48
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Business Gorillas posted:One of the founders of vice got kicked out after writing some transphobic articles iirc and is a randian ubermensch Yeah that's Gavin, he left Vice and co-founded an ad agency called Rooster which he subsequently got fired from after his transphobic article generated a boycott.
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May 17, 2015 01:02
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Trilas posted:
No no no, you've got it all wrong. God told her to be a tax attorney, it just so happened that he was speaking to her through Marcus 
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May 17, 2015 01:07
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Sure, now that DDT is banned, habitat loss due to climate change brought about by burning fossil fuels is probably the number one killer of raptors. Oh yeah, remember when America banned DDT and that somehow resulted in the deaths of millions and millions of African children that conservatives totally care about? Mark Levin brings up this talking point all the time. It's the most infuriating bullshit ever. Master Shake talking about liberals being the real racists for killing all those poor black people.
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May 17, 2015 01:19
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radical meme posted:Mark Levin brings up this talking point all the time. It's the most infuriating bullshit ever. Master Shake talking about liberals being the real racists for killing all those poor black people. Haven't you heard? DDT did nothing to birds or people. The whole study was [liberal whatever] and we should just bring DDT back into blanket usage. Even Howard Stern says so.
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May 17, 2015 02:27
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Can't insects develop resistances to indiscriminately applied insecticides too? Or is that more of a bacterial thing?
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May 17, 2015 02:29
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StandardVC10 posted:Can't insects develop resistances to indiscriminately applied insecticides too? Or is that more of a bacterial thing? Depends on the insecticide. I mean, humans can't really develop resistance to say sarin gas, and it's much the same with a lot of insecticides.
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May 17, 2015 02:41
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You don't "develop" a resistance to stuff, unless you're referring to a population. Some portion of a given population just has some mutation(s) that makes them heartier against some chemicals than the average member of their species. Obviously some chemicals you're less likely to have a resistance to than others, but the important thing is being thorough when applying the poo poo so nothing survives (which is why a prescription of antibiotics will typically tell you to finish the whole thing regardless of how you feel). Because what DOES survive is likely going to have some kind of resistance, making your stuff less effective. EDIT: The most hilarious thing about DDT is how little these shits care about the country. Even the bald eagle can't muster a defense from these guys 
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May 17, 2015 04:01
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But "Mithridates, he grew old."!
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May 17, 2015 04:24
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radical meme posted:It'll be hard for Right Wing Media to completely dismiss the ability of women to lead after slobbering all over the carriers of Margaret Thatcher and Jeanne Kirkpatrick for so long. Lol no it won't
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May 17, 2015 04:45
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Yeah look at how they've disengaged from Reagan's policies (the real Reagan, not the fictional version they worship). They'll have no problem disengaging from Thatcher. It was a long time ago, a reality that no longer fits into their paradigm..
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May 17, 2015 05:04
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Shbobdb posted:Doesn't coal kill more raptors than wind farms anyway? Pretty much anything that kills birds kills more birds than wind farms.
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May 17, 2015 05:14
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beatlegs posted:Yeah look at how they've disengaged from Reagan's policies (the real Reagan, not the fictional version they worship). They'll have no problem disengaging from Thatcher. It was a long time ago, a reality that no longer fits into their paradigm..
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May 17, 2015 06:35
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beatlegs posted:Yeah look at how they've disengaged from Reagan's policies (the real Reagan, not the fictional version they worship). They'll have no problem disengaging from Thatcher. It was a long time ago, a reality that no longer fits into their paradigm.. This is, hands down, my favorite post concerning Thatcher and why Obama went to Mandela's funeral but not hers: quote:Zeroisanumber posted:
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May 17, 2015 06:48
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Obama didn't go to Thatcher's funeral? How did I miss such a delightful detail
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May 17, 2015 07:08
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Probably because you've tuned out the 24/7 right wing news cycle. It was the big topic for like 2 weeks when it happened 2 years ago
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May 17, 2015 07:20
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Yeah but I live in the drat Politoon Thread, and political cartoons are a kind of gutter for right wing talking points.
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May 17, 2015 07:27
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Rorus Raz posted:Yeah but I live in the drat Politoon Thread, and political cartoons are a kind of gutter for right wing talking points. They were too busy trying to counteract any negative opinions of Thatcher to comment on Obama. Have a heart! They can only spin so much!
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I think they just didn't give as much of a poo poo as you'd expect from people with more consistent ideologies. Her heyday was relatively long ago (and foreign) and she hadn't been sainted like Reagan. She didn't keep in the news like Mandela did, so they mostly forgot about her. That's why her death was so tepidly received in comparison (in US media).
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Dr. Faustus posted:Haven't you heard? DDT did nothing to birds or people. The whole study was [liberal whatever] and we should just bring DDT back into blanket usage. According to Ann Coulter in "Godless" all of environmentalism is a misguided concept that got out of control, no doubt because of a hysterical female. See, Rachel Carlson was dying of cancer, and in her addled state saw poison and pollution in everything sort of conspiracy-theory-style, because she was merely some kind of flake, and all the hippies and knee-jerk liberals just ate it all up, so here we are with all these government regulations that keep good real Americans in chains. We never needed to do anything about pollution in the first place; we've been duped by the pinkos all along. And we've caused more human suffering and death in Africa by not using DDT than we would have ever by filling up every body of water on the continent with it, which would have totally ended malaria, apparently. So there's blood on YOUR hands, liberals.
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