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I like when RPG combat requires low engagement so I can zone out while doing it, instead of actually paying attention and challenging myself.
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im uncomfortable with the way this conversation steered away from praising system shock 2
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May 21, 2015 03:50
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Thought experiment: What sort of games types/genres best define a decade, hypothetically? Like, what are the platonic ideals of a "Game from the XX era?" Working on a creative writing thing for shits and giggles, and realized that it's been long enough I don't remember the old days. I was thinking this: 80s: Arcade Game 90s: 2D RPG or Early Shooter 00s: GTA Clone 10s: God Of War Clone 15s/Modern: High End FPS/Shooter Clone
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May 21, 2015 03:56
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i dunno "gears of war clone" might beat out gta clone in that category also youre missing pixel platformer and rogue-lite e: would 3d platformer (mario 64 to kazooie and then the clones) take 90s?
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May 21, 2015 04:07
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precision posted:How can an RPG be GOTY or even "good" if the combat is universally agreed upon to be "bad"? What the...
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Pixel platformer is one I considered for the 90s (may add another 'line' for the Mario/Megaman sort of stuff) but I'm kinda hewing more towards computer-based gaming than consoles. Roguelikes strike me as a little less mainstream than I'm looking for. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 04:23 on May 21, 2015 |
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MisterBibs posted:Thought experiment: What sort of games types/genres best define a decade, hypothetically? Like, what are the platonic ideals of a "Game from the XX era?" Working on a creative writing thing for shits and giggles, and realized that it's been long enough I don't remember the old days. if you're going for popularity 15s would be mobile, if you're not, I have no idea what you're doing and neither you do.
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May 21, 2015 04:24
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I think "mascot platformer" summarizes both the 2d and 3d platformers that dominated the 90s. Even the Xbox tried to launch a bunch of lovely cartoon mascots like Blinx the Time Sweeper and Voodoo Vince because that was just A Thing You Had To Do, the fact that their mascot wound up being Master Chief more or less signaled the end of that.
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May 21, 2015 04:25
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MOBAs also. Everyone loves MOBAs. It is the age of the MOBA.
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May 21, 2015 04:25
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80s/90s platformers 10s mobas 15s mobile games
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May 21, 2015 04:26
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00s - counter strike clones most decades - sports
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May 21, 2015 04:28
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2020s - virtual reality (the waifu age)
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May 21, 2015 04:43
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it puts the "I" in CGI
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May 21, 2015 04:45
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program666 posted:if you're going for popularity 15s would be mobile, if you're not, I have no idea what you're doing and neither you do. You're right; I'm trying to figure out how to articulate what I'm doing as I'm going along. You might've read it before I edited it, but I'm going mostly with a computer-based viewpoint.
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May 21, 2015 04:45
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there is no way to answer this correctly but it's fun to mess around with 1993s: beat en ups 2009 to 2012: tween wave
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May 21, 2015 04:57
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1990s: the 90s 2000s: 2000s games 2010: post-2009 era
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May 21, 2015 04:59
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CJacobs posted:2020s - virtual reality (the waifu age) 
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May 21, 2015 05:03
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I'm very pinterested.
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May 21, 2015 05:05
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hey all just trying to get more youtube exposure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOr4UMnm5CU i'm going to start an epic lp next month so be ready for that 
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May 21, 2015 05:16
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I didn't like RDR. In my defence I didn't like it in the first few hours rather than the last few, but most of the game seemed to be driving to bullshit fetch quests for people who were really obviously stringing you along and very little actually being a cowboy out in the wilderness. You really should give RDR another look, it kinda quits that when you get to Mexico.
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May 21, 2015 05:17
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Jon Do posted:im uncomfortable with the way this conversation steered away from praising system shock 2 ss2 is actually garbage, sorry
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May 21, 2015 05:23
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StashAugustine posted:ss2 is actually garbage, sorry Getting irreparably stuck if you don't make the right the stat and weapon choices, the second half of the game being a rough copy-paste of the first, the weapon balance being borderline broken, and the progression being one prolonged elevator repair job padded out with keycard hunts don't count because I played it when I was 12. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YLMk1E41kE&t=79s
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May 21, 2015 05:47
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Sleeveless posted:Getting irreparably stuck if you don't make the right the stat and weapon choices, the second half of the game being a rough copy-paste of the first, the weapon balance being borderline broken, and the progression being one prolonged elevator repair job padded out with keycard hunts don't count because I played it when I was 12. waht the...
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May 21, 2015 05:48
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it's an extremely epic cooperative horror shooter supporting up to three other players... what the heck do you want... unreal?
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May 21, 2015 05:48
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The only way I can see getting like, completely stuck by making bad stat choices in SS2 is if you do some poo poo like boost your psi skill and spend your points on anything other than acutal psi powers. On Impossible.
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May 21, 2015 05:51
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put all points into swimming.
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May 21, 2015 06:05
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Excels posted:put all points into swimming. even in deus ex this can work...
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May 21, 2015 06:08
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That would not seriously hurt you in Deus Ex, as Swimming doesn't cost a lot to raise.
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May 21, 2015 06:11
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SS2 is a game I liked as a kid but I have zero interest in going back to. When it comes to even RPG-heavy shooters of today, it really hasn't aged too well. I unironically want this to happen at the end of Half-Life 3, if it ever happens.
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May 21, 2015 06:38
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MisterBibs posted:You're right; I'm trying to figure out how to articulate what I'm doing as I'm going along. You might've read it before I edited it, but I'm going mostly with a computer-based viewpoint. You can track specific genres better than picking a decade and asking "what games defined this decade?" And since you're looking particularly at PC games, one of interesting genres there were RTS'. They started meagerly in the early 90's with Dune, Warcraft, and C&C, and then exploded into popularity around 1996 and through the 2000's between WC2, Starcraft, WC3, countless lesser known games, and the glut of C&C sequels. And then by 2011 the genre utterly died, killed by genres it spawned like TD and MOBAs.
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May 21, 2015 06:40
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I recently finished System Shock 2 cause when it came out I only made it to Hydroponics. Despite its obvious flaws I still had a good time, in part because it's still scary/tense due to the great sound design and because I like the overall story a lot. Instead of being beaten over the head with some weird political ideology taken to its logical extreme like in the Bioshock series it's about people reacting to a very lovely situation, which I much prefer. I wasn't aware when I beat the game but according to this post mortem the game was created in just 18 months under less than ideal circumstances, which explains a lot of the balance issues.
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May 21, 2015 06:53
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It's sort of amazing that it came out well without any major mod assist. Bloodlines on the other hand had an extremely similar dev cycle in terms of time and money and could only be considered a good game once it got fan-patched in some extreme ways.
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May 21, 2015 06:59
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Alain Post posted:It's not really that, it's more that video games (specifically action games which Witcher/TES/FPSRPGs superficially resemble) are skill-based, and marrying skill-based gameplay to stat-based gameplay is contentious. Like, an FPS is asking "are you good enough to mouse over this moving enemy and shoot him", while an RPG is asking "did you roll a high enough number to hit the enemy". Mix these together and you get poo poo like Morrowind. Though, marrying skill with rpg elements got us Castlevania: SotN and other Igavanias. All of which own because if you're hardcore you can beat it without dicking around with rpg stuff. And if you're bad/lazy you can use the rpg stuff to help you beat the game.
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May 21, 2015 07:42
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Lurdiak posted:I like when RPG combat requires low engagement so I can zone out while doing it, instead of actually paying attention and challenging myself. It's pretty good for mobile at least. I always tend to play old JRPGs on my phone when I'm out, and the gameplay allows you to pay attention to it and other stuff that's going on at the same time. Plus you don't really have a problem with the touchscreen controls because it's just you going through menus at your own pace.
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May 21, 2015 09:26
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i like my rpgs like i like partners of my preferred gender: easy and made after 1999
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May 21, 2015 11:32
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precision posted:i like my rpgs like i like partners of my preferred gender: easy and made after 1999
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May 21, 2015 11:38
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FactsAreUseless posted:Ironic pedophilia... a powerful posting technique, that is definitely funny and okay, and not sad and creepy at all. Excuse me, when it's teenagers it's actually called
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May 21, 2015 11:49
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Requesting a courtesy gas.
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May 21, 2015 11:54
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Requesting a courtesy gas.
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i fart on you courteously
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